TDEE vs Eat Back

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JoRocka

If you already know what you are averaging when eating back your calories, and since your average is over a pretty good chunk of time, why not just use that average as your TDEE. Instead of relying on a calculation that is just a good guess.

well I used the calculators to kind of reverb my ideas- but really all it told me was- my real time stuff is accurate- I was just I guess a little frustrated- most people say they can eat more on TDEE- but my TDEE with a deficit is giving me what i'm using now- even less actually.

JoRocka

In my opinion:

1) I very highly doubt that there are high percentages of females in your weight range that are successfully cutting at 2000 plus calories and the ones who are, very likely have a buttload of activity. Are there "a few" who can? Probably. But that's certainly not the majority.

2) I don't think your current gross intake is low. 1870 puts you at just a touch under 12 kcal/lb. That's certainly within a range of what I'd consider to be very reasonable for fat loss and I wouldn't hesitate to pull calories downwards if you're not losing at a reasonable pace at that intake.

Thanks for dropping in- I do appreciate your thoughts.
I cant' speak on the first one- I suspect they might just straight up do more cardio than me. But meh- I do not have time- or inclination to do more cardio.

It just FEELS low- and I suspect it's because I'm awake for longer- it just seems like I never eat enough- I'm functional- but hungry. I don't see a need to adjust down at the moment- I'm losing as it is- so no reason to drop- but if I stop losing- you can bet your sweet bippy I will. End goal trumps being full.

if you are on a 1500 cal day diet and eat 1800 cals five days a week and 750 cals two days a week in the end you are consuming the same net cals and creating a defecit. On low cal days pack them full of raw fruits and veggies.

Trust me if you do this, you wont be hungry.

I 100% absolutely could not eat 750 calories for 2 days. No. Not could not. WOULD no.
That just is NOT happening- I already semi do a cycle thing as I tend to run light through the day on Wed/Thursday and have a full dinner with my BF- or run Mon/Tuesday at an extra deficit and just eat normal on W/Thur- I don't like to be restrictive with him since we go out to dinner- so I make arrangements the rest of the week but I would not be happy doing a hard cut on two days I don't think.

Could I do it? Sure- but I would NOT be happy.

although I do like my veggies- LOL totally what I had for dinner last night- veggies.... then popcorn. Because I love popcorn.

different BMR and they may exercise 6 times/week.

very possible- I guess it just feels like I'm busier than my work reflects. I mean- I work 3 jobs- and I am in dance class for 10-15 hours a week plus the lifting. So I mean- Its not like I just lift and thats it.

But- they could easily be doing cardio on the off lifting days!!!
I'm jealous- but not motivated enough to do anything about it LOL

deksgrl

If you already know what you are averaging when eating back your calories, and since your average is over a pretty good chunk of time, why not just use that average as your TDEE. Instead of relying on a calculation that is just a good guess.

well I used the calculators to kind of reverb my ideas- but really all it told me was- my real time stuff is accurate- I was just I guess a little frustrated- most people say they can eat more on TDEE- but my TDEE with a deficit is giving me what i'm using now- even less actually.

I suspect it is just a "mental" thing rather than really being able to eat more. Or rather..... On a day I exercise less then I would eat less and on a day I exercise more I would eat more, but over the week the average is the same. So yes, I would be eating more day to day, but not more for the entire week. You know what I mean?

JoRocka

Indeed. Indeed.

It's all good and well.

Slow and steady- I might try TDEE for September and see if it jives better- I've been doing NEAT+eatback for so long though I'm not sure how I'll feel about not getting to come home and stuff my face after a workout LOL.

ALL THE POPCORN!!!!! NOMNOMNOMNOM

martinel2099

we go for all you can eat meat at a Brazillian steak house- and I pretty much go ham.

Brazilian Steakhouses are awesome, take the wifey there about once a month++ Fogo De Chao for the win.

JoRocka

we go for all you can eat meat at a Brazillian steak house- and I pretty much go ham.

Brazilian Steakhouses are awesome, take the wifey there about once a month++ Fogo De Chao for the win.

YES!!! BEST.THING.EVER.
Love that stuff. I mostly go ham on meats- but I do indulge in the little appetizers.
too expensive tolls + parking- and philly traffic- there is one in Eschelon we go to- it's less expensive- and less hassle.

I've actually never been to Fogo- we have always gone to Chima's honestly (although they are RIGHT there- no reason to not go)

and yes- we went last night. omnonomnomnom I wasn't sure- so I didn't eat hardly anything all day- still had plenty of room to fit it all in.

I don't think I ate as much as normal- but I am pretty sure I ate 2 peoples portions of Picana and bacon wrapped turkey. Seriously.
On point.

And they changed the recipe for the cheese puffs- normally I'm really meh about them- I had to fight not to eat all them last night- they were SO good.

I'm not big on buffets or all you can eat- but brazillian steak houses- and fresh made sushi- YES. PLEASE.

martinel2099

we go for all you can eat meat at a Brazillian steak house- and I pretty much go ham.

Brazilian Steakhouses are awesome, take the wifey there about once a month++ Fogo De Chao for the win.

YES!!! BEST.THING.EVER.
Love that stuff. I mostly go ham on meats- but I do indulge in the little appetizers.
too expensive tolls + parking- and philly traffic- there is one in Eschelon we go to- it's less expensive- and less hassle.

I've actually never been to Fogo- we have always gone to Chima's honestly (although they are RIGHT there- no reason to not go)

and yes- we went last night. omnonomnomnom I wasn't sure- so I didn't eat hardly anything all day- still had plenty of room to fit it all in.

I don't think I ate as much as normal- but I am pretty sure I ate 2 peoples portions of Picana and bacon wrapped turkey. Seriously.
On point.

And they changed the recipe for the cheese puffs- normally I'm really meh about them- I had to fight not to eat all them last night- they were SO good.

I'm not big on buffets or all you can eat- but brazillian steak houses- and fresh made sushi- YES. PLEASE.

Chima's is awesome too, love them both+++ Make sure you join Chima's online club, $20 discount on your next meal.

JoRocka

oh! good to know.

I like going there as a special treat- its' the same but the environment feels nicer- so we get dressed up and go into the city and that's fun.

I'll have to look into the on line thing- I love discounts!!!

husseycd

Your numbers do seem a little low to me too. I'm 5'5" and 130 and maintain at 2200/day. Now, I tend to eat 1700 M-Th, and 3000 Fri/Sat with Sunday usually a wash, but it averages to 2200/day. I'm fairly lean at about 19% body fat (measured by bodpod)

I also have a desk job, though I've managed to get a stand-up work station. I'm still not moving much all day. I do work out a couple times/day, with weights one session and usually an aerial class the second session, but it only totals about 1.5 hours. A couple days a week I'll mountain bike, and a couple others I'll walk. Sometimes I bike leisurely to the bar, but that's really it. I am fidgety and find lots of reasons to leave my desk, but that still doesn't add up to much.

So yeah, it definitely seems like you could eat more and still lose.