Just had a Body Composition Analyzer Session - Confused!
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@Gustaaf85 Thanks, yeah i think i will be paying more attention to it. ALthough i have toned up and have gone down clothes sizes , its alarming that my body fat % is on the increase. And i exercise every week too0
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@Gustaaf85 It does, i've been hung up on it all day. Especially with the visceral fat, which is alarming. I will try take a more rounded look at it as opposed to zoning in on something that could be a spike for another reason0
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MFP is so wrong with their numbers, it say's i need to eat 1700 a day to lose weight, while my BMR calculated by professionals in athlete centre is 1785, so MFP basicly tells me to screw with my organs and make myself unhealthy
I say that analyzer is better to go with than MFP
Not saying the analyzer might be 100% right (no machine can do that) but definatly better than MFP (imho)
there is no issue with eating below BMR .. it causes no damage .. BMR is just an estimated number
That said work with whatever estimates you wish but always judge over time by what happens with your actual body in terms of weight / body composition
Unless you are having a Dexa Scan I would ignore any absolute numbers from 'profiles' though there is far too much margin for error .. (sorry, can't see your images due to work filter)0 -
lowerhogan wrote: »@Gustaaf85 It does, i've been hung up on it all day. Especially with the visceral fat, which is alarming. I will try take a more rounded look at it as opposed to zoning in on something that could be a spike for another reason
Well visceral fat is the fat on the inside
I have seen people with sixpack, but higher visceral fat than me
@rabbitjb euhm... Eating below your BMR for a long time can cause serious harm to your organs, if you don't beleive me, ask a doctor!
Your BMR is just the amount you would be burning if you were in a coma and not moving all day.0 -
@stevencloser
Yeah so basicly the least amount of fuel you need, or in other words, the least amount of fuel to keep your body functioning
No, an arbitrary subset of your total actual fuel need, which does not include NEAT and exercise burns.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Your BMR is just the amount you would be burning if you were in a coma and not moving all day.
I don't know where this "coma" nonsense comes from, it's hyperbole. Step 1 of a BMR measurement protocol is not "put the patient into a medically induced coma" :-Conditions to be met while measuring BMR
The concept of basal metabolism arose from the need to
standardise measurements so that accurate comparisons
could be made between individuals. This is achieved by
measuring a minimum rate of heat production free of the
effects of any consumption of food and ‘extreme’ physical
environments.
All BMR measurements must therefore meet the
following conditions:
1. The subject should be completely rested, both before
and during the measurements. They should be lying
down and fully awake.
2. The subjects should be fasted for at least 10 –12 hours
before the measurements are taken.
3. The environment in which the measurements are taken
should be thermo-neutral (22–268C) so that there is no
thermoregulatory effect on heat production.
4. The subject should be free from emotional stress and
familiar with the apparatus used.
Basal metabolic rate studies in humans: measurement
and development of new equations by CJK Henry
Public Health Nutrition: 8(7A), 1133–1152 DOI: 10.1079/PHN20058010 -
"In a coma" is a faster explanation than "well rested, fasted for at least half a day and not moving while lying down for an extended period of time".0
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lowerhogan wrote: »@Gustaaf85 It does, i've been hung up on it all day. Especially with the visceral fat, which is alarming. I will try take a more rounded look at it as opposed to zoning in on something that could be a spike for another reason
Well visceral fat is the fat on the inside
I have seen people with sixpack, but higher visceral fat than me
@rabbitjb euhm... Eating below your BMR for a long time can cause serious harm to your organs, if you don't beleive me, ask a doctor!
if a very long time means you have lost all non-essential fat then possibly .. that I shall concede
but we aren't there are we
none of us are I'll warrant0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Your BMR is just the amount you would be burning if you were in a coma and not moving all day.
I don't know where this "coma" nonsense comes from, it's hyperbole. Step 1 of a BMR measurement protocol is not "put the patient into a medically induced coma" :-Conditions to be met while measuring BMR
The concept of basal metabolism arose from the need to
standardise measurements so that accurate comparisons
could be made between individuals. This is achieved by
measuring a minimum rate of heat production free of the
effects of any consumption of food and ‘extreme’ physical
environments.
All BMR measurements must therefore meet the
following conditions:
1. The subject should be completely rested, both before
and during the measurements. They should be lying
down and fully awake.
2. The subjects should be fasted for at least 10 –12 hours
before the measurements are taken.
3. The environment in which the measurements are taken
should be thermo-neutral (22–268C) so that there is no
thermoregulatory effect on heat production.
4. The subject should be free from emotional stress and
familiar with the apparatus used.
Basal metabolic rate studies in humans: measurement
and development of new equations by CJK Henry
Public Health Nutrition: 8(7A), 1133–1152 DOI: 10.1079/PHN2005801
interesting nitpicky there yarwell... doesn't change the discussion point though does it? Or do you think it matters if you eat below your BMR if you can get a full nutritional balance at the lower than BMR rate
and anyway few of us have an accurate medical measured BMR, we're generally going by the estimation0 -
She's nuts! Even MFP is usually high. In your case 1600 probably about right!0
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