Butter makes your pants fall off?
CarlaMomOf4
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Has anyone seen this post? Just wondering if this guy is a crack pot or if it might add up somehow...
http://www.buttermakesyourpantsfalloff.com/butter-makes-your-pants-fall-off/
Floor is open, tell me your thoughts.....
http://www.buttermakesyourpantsfalloff.com/butter-makes-your-pants-fall-off/
Floor is open, tell me your thoughts.....
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Basically eating a high fat diet has high satiety meaning you're hungry less. It all comes down to calorie intake though. There are a million different diets and ways to spin it, but if you're eating a lower calorie intake than you're burning you will lose weight. He is right about the fact that dietary fat does not in and of itself make you fat. No individual macronutrient makes you fat. It's all context in your total dietary intake.0
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Didn't watch the video, but am I the only one who saw the title of this thread and instantly thought of the Friends episode with the leather pants? No? OK, carry on.0
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Another person that has little understanding of nutrition in general.-1
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LOL, Great responses, it's actually a written article not a video. I have a relative that had plateaued on her weight loss journey and started this new fad diet and 'claims' to have already started losing again. Just wanted to see how others who may have more knowledge than myself felt about this whole idea...0
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Good butter, in the form of scones or on a bit of crusty bread with a pinch of salt has been known to make my pants fall off.0
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Didn't watch the video, but am I the only one who saw the title of this thread and instantly thought of the Friends episode with the leather pants? No? OK, carry on.
I did!0 -
LOL, Great responses, it's actually a written article not a video. I have a relative that had plateaued on her weight loss journey and started this new fad diet and 'claims' to have already started losing again. Just wanted to see how others who may have more knowledge than myself felt about this whole idea...
Yea, he goes on and talks about how calories are not what's important and how it's all about insulin. That's complete BS. You don't have to concern yourself with insulin unless your diabetic or have a medical reason to. Calories do not lie. Thermodynamics does no lie. If you are in a calorie deficit you will lose weight, period, end of story. There are different dietary systems to address hunger and you can play around with macronutrients for hunger's sake, but at the end of the day Calories are first and foremost.0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Didn't watch the video, but am I the only one who saw the title of this thread and instantly thought of the Friends episode with the leather pants? No? OK, carry on.
I did!
I miss Friends
OK sorry for that momentary thread hijack0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Didn't watch the video, but am I the only one who saw the title of this thread and instantly thought of the Friends episode with the leather pants? No? OK, carry on.
I did!
I miss Friends
OK sorry for that momentary thread hijack
It was worth it
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I put butter in my coffee. I eat a low carb and high fat eating style. It helped me move a bunch of weight off me that wasn't budging on a typical high carb and low fat eating style. So for some, butter can help with weight loss. HOWEVER, it does come down to a deficit.0
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Is that the bullet proof coffee I keep reading about? This is the same response my relative gave also...0
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I've been hearing a lot about that bulletproof coffee lately too. I don't understand. Coffee and butter together does not sound appetizing to me.Is that the bullet proof coffee I keep reading about? This is the same response my relative gave also...0 -
Has anyone seen this post? Just wondering if this guy is a crack pot or if it might add up somehow...
http://www.buttermakesyourpantsfalloff.com/butter-makes-your-pants-fall-off/
Floor is open, tell me your thoughts.....
People will believe anything.0 -
Is that the bullet proof coffee I keep reading about? This is the same response my relative gave also...
Yup! It's butter and coconut oil in coffee. You either mix it in a blender, or you shake it in a container. So good!0 -
What is the purpose though? Sounds like it would be high in calories, so I'm wondering what the benefit is (if there is a benefit other than taste preference).Is that the bullet proof coffee I keep reading about? This is the same response my relative gave also...
Yup! It's butter and coconut oil in coffee. You either mix it in a blender, or you shake it in a container. So good!0 -
A professor once taught me the universal answer to all questions:
Some do; some don't. The differences aren't very great and it's more complicated than that.
Taking any one aspect of our knowledge about nutrition and following it to an extreme can work for some people some of the time. It's also a very popular thing to do. It goes back to the attractiveness of a "magic solution." Cut out this, eat only that, green coffee beans, acai berries, all the late night info-mercial nostrums, anything recommended by Dr. Oz may work for some people some of the time. How often is that the result of placebo effect?
Recent research is indicating that dietary fats, other than transfats, are less detrimental to our health than thought. Some fats are even good for us to some degree. Carbohydrates are not the panacea they were once thought to be. Some carbohydrates are even harmful to us to some degree. The science of nutrition is forever morphing and changing as new knowledge accumulates and it is incredibly complicated.
There is no money to be made in saying, "Moderation in all things." There is a great deal of money to be made in saying, "Buy my magic potion and my book telling you the secret."
Anybody who tells you we know EXACTLY what works for EVERYBODY is innocently deluded or out to take advantage of you. Anybody who espouses one extreme over another is treading on thin ice. They probably haven't considered all the dangers of that extremity.
Unfortunately, when it comes to diet, the one thing we must embrace is ambiguity.0 -
Cheez Its and gelato makes my pants come right off FYI0
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If you like the taste of butter and coconut oil in your coffee, and that combination, along with your total calorie intake for the day, falls at or below your calorie goal, you will lose weight. Unless you have a medical condition, as long as you are eating at a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. That's not to say that you will be at optimum health. Butter and coconut oil are both saturated fats, and eating a diet heavy in saturated fats without the necessary fiber to keep your cholesterol low could lead to heart disease.0
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I read that. Or at least, I tried to read it. It was literally painful to read. I'd like to call his understanding of nutrition of poor, but really, it doesn't even exist.
A lot of what he was saying is what is being found in current research. Nutrition over the past 30-40 years has never been based on science but anecdotal evidence. We still have a problem today of science trying to link correlation with causation which in most cases, misleads a lot of people including people the with money for the research as they end up going down the wrong road away from what they actually wanted to learn. Atkins was on the right tack.
Our body's are complex machines, the fact that people still believe the whole calorie is a calorie is ludicrous. Metabolism isn't some furnace you are feeding with energy that 'burns' what you eat. Hormones are what play the largest part in weight control, not how much you eat. Insulin causes more problems than people realise. For starters, insulin is inflammatory and causes all kinds of problems within the body. One of the biggest reasons to go vlc is due to the fact you just don't need to count calories in the lack of presence of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that acts as a gatekeeper to all the cells in your body. If you eat more energy than is needed, Insulin stores that energy as fat no matter which source it is from. Remove Insulin from the picture and those cell doors don't even open up meaning you can eat energy dense foods such as fat and your body will just pass the excess fat.
The TYPE of macronutrient is more important than the number of calories. Each macro has a different metabolic pathway and are broken down by the body in totally different ways. Carbs and Proteins force an insulin response and Fat forces a leptin response. It goes a lot deeper than that but most people here are too close minded to even bother reading research or watch lectures.
If you want to carry on eating the way you want to, that's your choice. However, the science is there and it's going to change how we all eat.1 -
If you like the taste of butter and coconut oil in your coffee, and that combination, along with your total calorie intake for the day, falls at or below your calorie goal, you will lose weight. Unless you have a medical condition, as long as you are eating at a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. That's not to say that you will be at optimum health. Butter and coconut oil are both saturated fats, and eating a diet heavy in saturated fats without the necessary fiber to keep your cholesterol low could lead to heart disease.
Not true. Fats do not cause heart related disease. Diets high in fat and low in carbs have proven to reduce Triglycerides and higher HDL better than current drugs on the market. LDL-P also vastly improves though total cholesterol could go up (not a good marker for heart risk).0 -
A professor once taught me the universal answer to all questions:
Some do; some don't. The differences aren't very great and it's more complicated than that.
:laugh: Genius.0 -
Just walk across town .........................0
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A lot of what he was saying is what is being found in current research. Nutrition over the past 30-40 years has never been based on science but anecdotal evidence. We still have a problem today of science trying to link correlation with causation which in most cases, misleads a lot of people including people the with money for the research as they end up going down the wrong road away from what they actually wanted to learn. Atkins was on the right tack.
Our body's are complex machines, the fact that people still believe the whole calorie is a calorie is ludicrous. Metabolism isn't some furnace you are feeding with energy that 'burns' what you eat. Hormones are what play the largest part in weight control, not how much you eat. Insulin causes more problems than people realise. For starters, insulin is inflammatory and causes all kinds of problems within the body. One of the biggest reasons to go vlc is due to the fact you just don't need to count calories in the lack of presence of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that acts as a gatekeeper to all the cells in your body. If you eat more energy than is needed, Insulin stores that energy as fat no matter which source it is from. Remove Insulin from the picture and those cell doors don't even open up meaning you can eat energy dense foods such as fat and your body will just pass the excess fat.
The TYPE of macronutrient is more important than the number of calories. Each macro has a different metabolic pathway and are broken down by the body in totally different ways. Carbs and Proteins force an insulin response and Fat forces a leptin response. It goes a lot deeper than that but most people here are too close minded to even bother reading research or watch lectures.
If you want to carry on eating the way you want to, that's your choice. However, the science is there and it's going to change how we all eat.
So when exactly is a calorie not a calorie - it's just a unit of energy, no?0 -
Truly awesome post title. Good work OP!0
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If you like the taste of butter and coconut oil in your coffee, and that combination, along with your total calorie intake for the day, falls at or below your calorie goal, you will lose weight. Unless you have a medical condition, as long as you are eating at a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. That's not to say that you will be at optimum health. Butter and coconut oil are both saturated fats, and eating a diet heavy in saturated fats without the necessary fiber to keep your cholesterol low could lead to heart disease.
Not true. Fats do not cause heart related disease. Diets high in fat and low in carbs have proven to reduce Triglycerides and higher HDL better than current drugs on the market. LDL-P also vastly improves though total cholesterol could go up (not a good marker for heart risk).
erm....no. I said saturated fats and low in fiber. I also said nothing about using drugs to reduce said cholesterol. Balancing saturated fat intake with healthy mono- and polyunsaturated fats will keep risk of heart disease low. keeping fiber intake at a healthy level also keeps risk of heart disease down.0 -
I read that. Or at least, I tried to read it. It was literally painful to read. I'd like to call his understanding of nutrition of poor, but really, it doesn't even exist.
A lot of what he was saying is what is being found in current research. Nutrition over the past 30-40 years has never been based on science but anecdotal evidence. We still have a problem today of science trying to link correlation with causation which in most cases, misleads a lot of people including people the with money for the research as they end up going down the wrong road away from what they actually wanted to learn. Atkins was on the right tack.
Our body's are complex machines, the fact that people still believe the whole calorie is a calorie is ludicrous. Metabolism isn't some furnace you are feeding with energy that 'burns' what you eat. Hormones are what play the largest part in weight control, not how much you eat. Insulin causes more problems than people realise. For starters, insulin is inflammatory and causes all kinds of problems within the body. One of the biggest reasons to go vlc is due to the fact you just don't need to count calories in the lack of presence of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that acts as a gatekeeper to all the cells in your body. If you eat more energy than is needed, Insulin stores that energy as fat no matter which source it is from. Remove Insulin from the picture and those cell doors don't even open up meaning you can eat energy dense foods such as fat and your body will just pass the excess fat.
The TYPE of macronutrient is more important than the number of calories. Each macro has a different metabolic pathway and are broken down by the body in totally different ways. Carbs and Proteins force an insulin response and Fat forces a leptin response. It goes a lot deeper than that but most people here are too close minded to even bother reading research or watch lectures.
If you want to carry on eating the way you want to, that's your choice. However, the science is there and it's going to change how we all eat.
Our body's what? Or did you mean our bodies, as in the plural sense? A calorie is a unit of heat, so yes, a calorie is just a calorie. Perhaps what you meant is that macro balance is also important.0 -
A lot of what he was saying is what is being found in current research. Nutrition over the past 30-40 years has never been based on science but anecdotal evidence. We still have a problem today of science trying to link correlation with causation which in most cases, misleads a lot of people including people the with money for the research as they end up going down the wrong road away from what they actually wanted to learn. Atkins was on the right tack.
Our body's are complex machines, the fact that people still believe the whole calorie is a calorie is ludicrous. Metabolism isn't some furnace you are feeding with energy that 'burns' what you eat. Hormones are what play the largest part in weight control, not how much you eat. Insulin causes more problems than people realise. For starters, insulin is inflammatory and causes all kinds of problems within the body. One of the biggest reasons to go vlc is due to the fact you just don't need to count calories in the lack of presence of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that acts as a gatekeeper to all the cells in your body. If you eat more energy than is needed, Insulin stores that energy as fat no matter which source it is from. Remove Insulin from the picture and those cell doors don't even open up meaning you can eat energy dense foods such as fat and your body will just pass the excess fat.
The TYPE of macronutrient is more important than the number of calories. Each macro has a different metabolic pathway and are broken down by the body in totally different ways. Carbs and Proteins force an insulin response and Fat forces a leptin response. It goes a lot deeper than that but most people here are too close minded to even bother reading research or watch lectures.
If you want to carry on eating the way you want to, that's your choice. However, the science is there and it's going to change how we all eat.
So when exactly is a calorie not a calorie - it's just a unit of energy, no?
Yes a calorie is still a unit of energy. The way we measure the energy outside of the body is through burning it to raise the temperature of 1kg of water by 1deg c. The process of us breaking down different macronutrients has totally different effects on the energy within the calorie ingested. Energy and excess fat aren't as related as people believe. The body is a complex machine involving an unimaginable number of biochemical reactions which your average person will not understand or even know exists.
A quote I have heard thrown around a lot by current nutrition research scientists is from Einstein, "Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler." Government advice went down the route of being too simple, misleading millions of people into metabolic dis-regulation which is essentially an imbalance of hormones. Now with that said, everyone is different and genetics have also proven to effect things such as insulin sensitivity and hormonal imbalances. Macronutrient percentages are far more important in bringing your metabolism back to normal which doesn't mean cutting carbs entirely like I did.
The past 30 years or so have been spent trying to find out exactly why fat is bad for us. As with pretty much anything in science, a lot of it is done to prove logical theories that sound solid. In this case, science has found the opposite, which is quite amusing might I add with the low fat era of added sugar.
Time are changing, I believe that some of the stuff coming out of nutrition today is ground breaking and the general public should be paying more attention to it. I still see people asking about things on here that have been proven to be bro science. Surely spending 5-10 minutes on Google will answer a lot of these people's questions without the interference of opinion.0 -
If you like the taste of butter and coconut oil in your coffee, and that combination, along with your total calorie intake for the day, falls at or below your calorie goal, you will lose weight. Unless you have a medical condition, as long as you are eating at a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. That's not to say that you will be at optimum health. Butter and coconut oil are both saturated fats, and eating a diet heavy in saturated fats without the necessary fiber to keep your cholesterol low could lead to heart disease.
Not true. Fats do not cause heart related disease. Diets high in fat and low in carbs have proven to reduce Triglycerides and higher HDL better than current drugs on the market. LDL-P also vastly improves though total cholesterol could go up (not a good marker for heart risk).
erm....no. I said saturated fats and low in fiber. I also said nothing about using drugs to reduce said cholesterol. Balancing saturated fat intake with healthy mono- and polyunsaturated fats will keep risk of heart disease low. keeping fiber intake at a healthy level also keeps risk of heart disease down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2zoDsVimyw
People who eat diets in high in sat fat have lowered risk of heart disease.0 -
A lot of what he was saying is what is being found in current research. Nutrition over the past 30-40 years has never been based on science but anecdotal evidence. We still have a problem today of science trying to link correlation with causation which in most cases, misleads a lot of people including people the with money for the research as they end up going down the wrong road away from what they actually wanted to learn. Atkins was on the right tack.
Our body's are complex machines, the fact that people still believe the whole calorie is a calorie is ludicrous. Metabolism isn't some furnace you are feeding with energy that 'burns' what you eat. Hormones are what play the largest part in weight control, not how much you eat. Insulin causes more problems than people realise. For starters, insulin is inflammatory and causes all kinds of problems within the body. One of the biggest reasons to go vlc is due to the fact you just don't need to count calories in the lack of presence of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that acts as a gatekeeper to all the cells in your body. If you eat more energy than is needed, Insulin stores that energy as fat no matter which source it is from. Remove Insulin from the picture and those cell doors don't even open up meaning you can eat energy dense foods such as fat and your body will just pass the excess fat.
The TYPE of macronutrient is more important than the number of calories. Each macro has a different metabolic pathway and are broken down by the body in totally different ways. Carbs and Proteins force an insulin response and Fat forces a leptin response. It goes a lot deeper than that but most people here are too close minded to even bother reading research or watch lectures.
If you want to carry on eating the way you want to, that's your choice. However, the science is there and it's going to change how we all eat.
So when exactly is a calorie not a calorie - it's just a unit of energy, no?
Yes a calorie is still a unit of energy. The way we measure the energy outside of the body is through burning it to raise the temperature of 1kg of water by 1deg c. The process of us breaking down different macronutrients has totally different effects on the energy within the calorie ingested. Energy and excess fat aren't as related as people believe. The body is a complex machine involving an unimaginable number of biochemical reactions which your average person will not understand or even know exists.
A quote I have heard thrown around a lot by current nutrition research scientists is from Einstein, "Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler." Government advice went down the route of being too simple, misleading millions of people into metabolic dis-regulation which is essentially an imbalance of hormones. Now with that said, everyone is different and genetics have also proven to effect things such as insulin sensitivity and hormonal imbalances. Macronutrient percentages are far more important in bringing your metabolism back to normal which doesn't mean cutting carbs entirely like I did.
The past 30 years or so have been spent trying to find out exactly why fat is bad for us. As with pretty much anything in science, a lot of it is done to prove logical theories that sound solid. In this case, science has found the opposite, which is quite amusing might I add with the low fat era of added sugar.
Time are changing, I believe that some of the stuff coming out of nutrition today is ground breaking and the general public should be paying more attention to it. I still see people asking about things on here that have been proven to be bro science. Surely spending 5-10 minutes on Google will answer a lot of these people's questions without the interference of opinion.
Oh, my. Referring someone to Google without advising them to stick to well-defined medical sites is no different than telling them to take the advice of every person's opinion right here on MFP. Google will give them a myriad of foolish sites, Dr. Oz's at the top, no doubt.0 -
Down 70 pounds in 6 months on the low carb high fat lifestyle. It's not bull and it's not a fad.0
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