Cleaning...Light or Heavy??
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She didn't ask for the number. She asked people's ideas of light cleaning vs heavy cleaning.
But she wants someone to give her an exact # of calories burned for each one…
Though to do that it requires a lot more than she has given, plus, it's all just estimates so it really doesn't matter...I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. Ta
Oh but you did
Why she wanted that info and what she planned to do with it was assumed by many, who proceeded to mock her for the stuff they made up.
There is no reason for the mocking, insulting, laughing and arguing with the OP.
She just asked a simple question.
The only person arguing in this thread is the OP.
People love to post threads asking vague questions with answers that are really specific to each individual and then freak out when people don't answer "the right way."
Heavy cleaning is "I am on my hands and knees scrubbing the whole floor for 5 hours" and light cleaning is "what most people do every time they clean" and in my opinion, neither should be logged as exercise because they are everyday activities like driving and sitting at my desk and walking back and forth to the copier 47 times.0 -
She said she was curious about the number later. Not before the nastiness began.
She didn't ask for the number. She asked people's ideas of light cleaning vs heavy cleaning.
But she wants someone to give her an exact # of calories burned for each one…
Though to do that it requires a lot more than she has given, plus, it's all just estimates so it really doesn't matter...I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. Ta
Oh but you did
Why she wanted that info and what she planned to do with it was assumed by many, who proceeded to mock her for the stuff they made up.
There is no reason for the mocking, insulting, laughing and arguing with the OP.
She just asked a simple question.
But she did say she was curious to the NUMBER. Meaning, she wants to know how many calories it burns. No one can give her a number or define what heavy or light cleaning is for her, because to each person it's different. It would also depend on height, weight, how much to lose, too many variables.
I'm not mocking, insulting, laughing or arguing. Why she's getting so upset is beyond me.
And she didn't ask anyone for the number. She felt like she had to defend her reason for asking the original question. Since nobody was asked for the number, there is no reason to go on about why it cannot be given.
You are absolutely arguing with her with your "Oh, but you did" type comments. And you're you're wrong, because she didn't.
You could just admit to being wrong and admit she didn't deserve a lot of the fried she got here. Or you could continue arguing that there is something wrong with the OP and all that jazz. If the point of all of it is to sound smart, admitting you were wrong would be he best way.
I wrote the oh but you did because well she did. Several have tried to explain that we can't answer her question because to each person heavy and light cleaning have very different definitions. She needs to decide what those definitions are herself.
I have never said there was something wrong with the OP. Not once, nor have I been nasty. I don't even see where anyone has been nasty to the OP.
And what am I exactly wrong about? When she explained more about why she wanted to know it was because she wanted a number.0 -
She said she was curious about the number later. Not before the nastiness began.
She didn't ask for the number. She asked people's ideas of light cleaning vs heavy cleaning.
But she wants someone to give her an exact # of calories burned for each one…
Though to do that it requires a lot more than she has given, plus, it's all just estimates so it really doesn't matter...I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. Ta
Oh but you did
Why she wanted that info and what she planned to do with it was assumed by many, who proceeded to mock her for the stuff they made up.
There is no reason for the mocking, insulting, laughing and arguing with the OP.
She just asked a simple question.
But she did say she was curious to the NUMBER. Meaning, she wants to know how many calories it burns. No one can give her a number or define what heavy or light cleaning is for her, because to each person it's different. It would also depend on height, weight, how much to lose, too many variables.
I'm not mocking, insulting, laughing or arguing. Why she's getting so upset is beyond me.
And she didn't ask anyone for the number. She felt like she had to defend her reason for asking the original question. Since nobody was asked for the number, there is no reason to go on about why it cannot be given.
You are absolutely arguing with her with your "Oh, but you did" type comments. And you're you're wrong, because she didn't.
You could just admit to being wrong and admit she didn't deserve a lot of the grief she got here. Or you could continue arguing that there is something wrong with the OP and all that jazz. If the point of all of it is to sound smart, admitting you were wrong would be he best way.
I think we have a new winner, folks! Yes, you are the one arguing. Thanks for playing. Here's your trophy.0 -
My walk to the bathroom was heavy walking, my walk back was light walking.
LOL... okay... you gotta laugh at this one... :laugh:
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT I HAVE TO OR NOT HAVE TO LAUGH AT!?0 -
I wonder what it's like to go through life so sensitive all the time. :ohwell:0
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Bottomline, I guess, this is no exact science. Why is this option in MFP? so anyone who wants to log it, can log it.
Is it exact? I doubt it.
OP, I would take it as a guidance, but not as exact value.
In any case, doing a quick search in the forums, I found these threads that could give some light:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/148878-cleaning-light-moderate-heavy-vigorous-what-s-the-differen
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/135906-light-and-heavy-cleaning
Best of lucks! and, keep it light, this, as any other forum in "the internets" is open to get any type of response, but you'll find some of them are useful. Ignore those who bothers you
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Light cleaning is what I do at night so I can see0
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I totally agree with you. Some people do deep cleaning while others rarely clean. If you do your cleaning and effort is involved, sure log it. You're moving and working off calories. I have a large house...over 6,000 square feet so I log my cleaning. So if you want to log your cleaning I would...as I do. As a matter of fact I am logging my cleaning today once I am done....0
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In for today's mean people thread and responses to a very subjective question0
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I would like to say in my own defence, personal I have taken offensive to some comments and the way things have been said/typed. just because you think you haven't said anything rude, nasty or offensive doesn't mean that it hasn't come across that way to me.
I have stated why I wanted to know yet people still keep going.
I have thanked the people that I appreciate the advice from.
I didn't realise it was such a complicated question, my bad.
But I have learnt that I won't be posting questions on here anymore...thanks guys :drinker:0 -
You'll have to forgive us for assuming you meant to log it. When most people ask this type of question that's exactly what they mean to do. And when the question is asked, it's always by someone who is new, so we were trying to be helpful by pointing out that you'd only be hurting yourself in the long run by doing it.I just wanted to see how many it burns, I am curious. Like if I went for a 90 minute walk I would want to know how many calories burnt to be curious
I WASN'T GOING TO LOG THEM!!! I AM CURIOUS OF THE NUMBER
So, back to the original question... .The problem is, as many of us have pointed out, neither of those two numbers is likely to be absolutely correct. The whole "science" around calories is very inexact. The amount of calories in that apple? An estimate based on the average of a bunch of apples. The apple you're eating may be sweeter than average and therefore contain more calories. A HRM's calorie total after a 3 mile run is only a guess at your actual calories burned based on some algorithms involving your heart rate and body mass and includes the calories you would have burned anyway while sitting on the sofa for that time, too. So take a look at the light and heavy calorie burns and know that what you actually burned was probably somewhere in between. That's really the best that anyone is going to be able to tell you.
And to add to this if I may^^^
Those of us that have been on here for a while have seen this same question asked more than a few times. Most of the time the reason the person is asking is to log those calories burned and anything else they can because they are having a hard time eating less food than they were before they started on this journey. They assume that anything they log gives them more calories to eat for that day when in reality they are just eating themselves out of a deficit. Then in a couple of months these very same people come back here and say they have been eating 1200 calories a day and can't figure out why they are not able to lose weight or they are actually gaining weight.
I don't think anyone is attacking you, I just think people who have seen it are trying to keep you from making the same mistakes.
Good Luck! :drinker:0 -
I would like to say in my own defence, personal I have taken offensive to some comments and the way things have been said/typed. just because you think you haven't said anything rude, nasty or offensive doesn't mean that it hasn't come across that way to me.
I have stated why I wanted to know yet people still keep going.
I have thanked the people that I appreciate the advice from.
I didn't realise it was such a complicated question, my bad.
But I have learnt that I won't be posting questions on here anymore...thanks guys :drinker:
But whose fault is that?
And, to answer your question on how many calories are burned:
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I would like to say in my own defence, personal I have taken offensive to some comments and the way things have been said/typed. just because you think you haven't said anything rude, nasty or offensive doesn't mean that it hasn't come across that way to me.
I have stated why I wanted to know yet people still keep going.
I have thanked the people that I appreciate the advice from.
I didn't realise it was such a complicated question, my bad.
But I have learnt that I won't be posting questions on here anymore...thanks guys :drinker:
Just an FYI, people are still going to go on because it's a thread in a forum. It's not to attack you, it's to have a discussion.0 -
You win the Internet!! :flowerforyou:0 -
Eh, but cleaning doesn't matter. If you did it when you gained your weight and still do it while trying to lose weight. I wouldn't log it.
Unless you are a cleaner by trait. If so increase your activity level. Cleaning is not exercise.
Well it matters to me...hence why I asked.
I do a big clean every week and I am still moving. Just because it's not the traditional 'exercise' doesn't mean I shouldn't log it, if I am cleaning for 3 hours - thats 3 hours of moving.
BINGO! I do squats and push ups more often that I clean the house. I do a big clean on either Saturday or Sunday. I turn on music, and go at it for 2-3 hours. I move furniture, I climb up and down stairs, I climb up and down chairs since I'm so short
I carry water pails, etc, so I count it too. However I just count all of it as light since MFP really exaggerates how many calories are burned, and I round down to the lowest 15 minute increment in terms of length of activity. 0 -
I almost went on to make that point about the follow up "I'm doing everything right and I'm still not losing weight" post but didn't want it to come off rude since I'm apparently being accused of being that already.
You'll have to forgive us for assuming you meant to log it. When most people ask this type of question that's exactly what they mean to do. And when the question is asked, it's always by someone who is new, so we were trying to be helpful by pointing out that you'd only be hurting yourself in the long run by doing it.I just wanted to see how many it burns, I am curious. Like if I went for a 90 minute walk I would want to know how many calories burnt to be curious
I WASN'T GOING TO LOG THEM!!! I AM CURIOUS OF THE NUMBER
So, back to the original question... .The problem is, as many of us have pointed out, neither of those two numbers is likely to be absolutely correct. The whole "science" around calories is very inexact. The amount of calories in that apple? An estimate based on the average of a bunch of apples. The apple you're eating may be sweeter than average and therefore contain more calories. A HRM's calorie total after a 3 mile run is only a guess at your actual calories burned based on some algorithms involving your heart rate and body mass and includes the calories you would have burned anyway while sitting on the sofa for that time, too. So take a look at the light and heavy calorie burns and know that what you actually burned was probably somewhere in between. That's really the best that anyone is going to be able to tell you.
And to add to this if I may^^^
Those of us that have been on here for a while have seen this same question asked more than a few times. Most of the time the reason the person is asking is to log those calories burned and anything else they can because they are having a hard time eating less food than they were before they started on this journey. They assume that anything they log gives them more calories to eat for that day when in reality they are just eating themselves out of a deficit. Then in a couple of months these very same people come back here and say they have been eating 1200 calories a day and can't figure out why they are not able to lose weight or they are actually gaining weight.
I don't think anyone is attacking you, I just think people who have seen it are trying to keep you from making the same mistakes.
Good Luck! :drinker:
OP, if I'm learning anything from this post it's that I can try to help people and they don't appreciate it but instead get overly sensitive and claim they're being mocked and insulted. I sometimes wonder why I waste my time in here.0 -
I know I'm late to this and my post will get ignored, but I have to try.
There are a variety of factors that go into our daily calorie burn.
BMR + Non Exercise Activity + Exercise = Total Daily Energy Expenditure
When you set up your account here MFP calculates your BMR based on your stats and your Non Exercise Activity through your activity level (sedentary/lightly active/etc.). If you select lightly active then daily cleaning is included in it, so logging cleaning as exercise would be counting that activity twice. Counting it twice would lead you to believe you are burning more than you really are and could wipe out your calorie deficit, meaning you wouldn't lose weight.
I personally did the same amount of cleaning when I was obese as I currently do, so I do not log cleaning.0 -
Light cleaning:
Heavy Cleaning:
I don't think that girl in the pic is working out hard enough lol0 -
Eh, but cleaning doesn't matter. If you did it when you gained your weight and still do it while trying to lose weight. I wouldn't log it.
Unless you are a cleaner by trait. If so increase your activity level. Cleaning is not exercise.
Well it matters to me...hence why I asked.
I do a big clean every week and I am still moving. Just because it's not the traditional 'exercise' doesn't mean I shouldn't log it, if I am cleaning for 3 hours - thats 3 hours of moving.I just wanted to see how many it burns, I am curious. Like if I went for a 90 minute walk I would want to know how many calories burnt to be curious
I WASN'T GOING TO LOG THEM!!! I AM CURIOUS OF THE NUMBER
OP, if you're going to get butthurt, at least get your story straight.
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She said she was curious about the number later. Not before the nastiness began.
She didn't ask for the number. She asked people's ideas of light cleaning vs heavy cleaning.
But she wants someone to give her an exact # of calories burned for each one…
Though to do that it requires a lot more than she has given, plus, it's all just estimates so it really doesn't matter...I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. Ta
Oh but you did
Why she wanted that info and what she planned to do with it was assumed by many, who proceeded to mock her for the stuff they made up.
There is no reason for the mocking, insulting, laughing and arguing with the OP.
She just asked a simple question.
But she did say she was curious to the NUMBER. Meaning, she wants to know how many calories it burns. No one can give her a number or define what heavy or light cleaning is for her, because to each person it's different. It would also depend on height, weight, how much to lose, too many variables.
I'm not mocking, insulting, laughing or arguing. Why she's getting so upset is beyond me.
And she didn't ask anyone for the number. She felt like she had to defend her reason for asking the original question. Since nobody was asked for the number, there is no reason to go on about why it cannot be given.
You are absolutely arguing with her with your "Oh, but you did" type comments. And you're you're wrong, because she didn't.
You could just admit to being wrong and admit she didn't deserve a lot of the grief she got here. Or you could continue arguing that there is something wrong with the OP and all that jazz. If the point of all of it is to sound smart, admitting you were wrong would be he best way.0 -
I think maybe you need to take a stepback and read what has been written and what you have written. I came to this thread late and as far as I can see you have asked a question that it is impossible to answer which people have said numerous times. You have then taken offense because of that. It seems that you are reading things that are not there and determined to be offended.I would like to say in my own defence, personal I have taken offensive to some comments and the way things have been said/typed. just because you think you haven't said anything rude, nasty or offensive doesn't mean that it hasn't come across that way to me.
I have stated why I wanted to know yet people still keep going.
I have thanked the people that I appreciate the advice from.
I didn't realise it was such a complicated question, my bad.
But I have learnt that I won't be posting questions on here anymore...thanks guys :drinker:
I think the issue is actually yours I'm afraid and yes we all sometimes infer on what people say which is why its best to sometimes think about what is being said. I'm sorry that you are offended but I'm afraid that seems to be your isue not the replies that people have taken their time to respond to your questions and yes there has been some joking but none of it has be malicious.
Good luck0 -
I cleaned my whole house yesterday for 2 hours straight. I was sweating and everything. I logged it but I put it in as light cleaning and only for 1 hour. I had music going and went at it full speed. Sweeping mopping rearranged furniture the whole nine. But I have OCD when it comes to cleaning. I never log it. I did yesterday because I didn't get to go to the gym and I had a grill chicken plate from a Gyro place lol. I also walk to and from work to my car which takes about 10mins both ways. I logged that in as well. I feel like it is up to you on what is light verses heavy. And feel free to log what you want. It's your diary. :-)0
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To me, heavy cleaning is done when you physically move furniture or appliances to clean under them, take things off the walls and scrub them, take light fixtures down and scrub them, and scrub floors all by hand. Heavy cleaning is "spring cleaning" or the type of cleaning you do before you move out/in to an apartment and you want your security deposit back. At the end of heavy cleaning, you want to eat out for the next week so you don't screw up your hard work, and you're 80% sure if someone comes in and messes up your work, you would exile them from the house.
Light cleaning is daily, weekly or monthly tasks that don't require a whole lot of effort.
I am a 140lb, moderately active woman, and I probably burn 50 for an hour of light cleaning, and 200 or so for a few hours of heavy cleaning. My husband is a 200lb, active man and he burns considerably more than me, because A.) he's a man, B.) he's bigger and C.) magic. So, calorie estimates have to be done on a personal level with a HRM or through MFP. There might be calorie estimates online. Google is a great tool: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=calorie+burned+cleaning+0 -
seriously? logging cleaning is a cop out..sorry but it is
and once upon a time I did that and I didn't get very far in my weight loss journey...
be honest with yourself and get moving, do some proper exercise, log that and eat back half your exercise calories..that is the way to find success.
cleaning is something we all have to do, its a part of our normal routine.
push the boundaries and be the best you can be
You have got others views on light and heavy cleaning though so at least this thread has been some help to you..
Please don't take comments personally, some of us have been here a long time, we know what works by now and we give our two cents worth so others wont make the same mistakes and reach their goals faster.0 -
WoWza...I thought I was overly sensitive. You actually got good solid advice on here...0
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Hi...I log everything I do...not matter what. If it burns calories, I log it.0
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I think in general people were trying to give advice, and trying to help you avoid making errors in your calculations. It seems to me that if you ask a question you should be prepared for varying opinions as it is a real reflection of us as individuals. Not everyone will think the same.0
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Light cleaning:
Heavy Cleaning:
lol this.
[edit] oh, and to actually contribute, I only log activities completed with the intent of training/conditioning (workouts, backpacking trips, etc.). even if I'm outside pulling parts off of my car engine all afternoon in 100 degree weather, it doesn't count, and doesn't get logged. if nothing else, those "extra" activities will put me slightly under my logged amount of calories--bonus!0 -
I like logging my cleaning sometimes...I'm generally a pretty lazy person and it's something I want to improve on and logging my cleaning motivates me. I try not to eat back my exercise calories, so why not get some extra motivation in the process?
I always just stick to light when I log cleaning because I think MFP overestimates as it is...that being said, I agree with many of the above: light cleaning = dishes, sweeping, etc. at a leisurely pace (AKA "putting around"), heavy cleaning = scrubbing the floors, moving, picking up carpets, etc. at a brisk pace (AKA relatives called an hour ago to say that they're popping by and now you're in a mad dash to do all the tasks you've been putting off for a week and sweat is dripping down your face).0 -
Hi...I log everything I do...not matter what. If it burns calories, I log it.
Yea, but sitting on the couch doing nothing burns calories....0
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