Is weight lifting 4 weight loss becoming the new Myth?
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• Strength training is for either maintaining muscle, growing muscle, and/or recruiting muscle.
• Cardiovascular training is for cardiovascular health.
• Weight loss means the loss of weight, whether it comes from fat, muscle, fluid, waste, etc. and it requires one thing: a deficit of some kind, no matter if it is created by diet, strength training, or cardiovascular training.
• Fat loss means losing fat. It requires one thing: a deficit of some kind, no matter if it is created by diet, strength training, or cardiovascular training.
These things should be common sense. Unfortunately there are too many out there who conflate and distort them because they want to sound smart and/or sell something.
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I kind of get where the OP is coming from and really it is about the marketing and hijacking of the benefits of resistance training by an idiotic weight loss industry which is based on fear to sell useless routines or ones of very minimal benefit.
If you don't lift you will get skinny fat bro!
Cardio makes your muscles fall off!
Weights make you bulky!
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Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
From Urban Dictionary: "too long; didn't read." really means: (meant tongue in cheek don't get your knickers in a twist reading this, but yea I still think it is rude and childish).
1. The inability to accept, understand or pay attention to information when not separated by a header.
2. The ability to arbitrarily read 400 small posts but not a long one.
3. A sign of ADD or lack of reading capability.
4. A very cheap response and an indication of lack of wit.
5. 90% of the time: A lie.
6. A desperate attempt at a comeback used by people who just can't think of one.
7. Usually used by people who've been torn apart verbally but want one last attempt at looking witty.
8. Total failure at #7.
7. A sign that, not only is someone too lazy and stupid to read but, clearly, too lazy and stupid to even type out four words indicating such.
9. Collect every "tl,dr" post online, and you'll have a good estimate of the number of lazy idiots on Earth, who currently have Internet access.
10. Should really be:
"Too Lazy, Don't Read."
TL:DR
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Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.0 -
The myth is one being better than the other. Do both. Enjoy.
QFT. I eat the "right" amount for me to lose the weight. I do resistance training for my muscle and bone health. I run or walk (or Zumba, or whatever I feel like) for my heart health and for stress relief/relaxation. They all work together for total body fitness.0 -
Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
From Urban Dictionary: "too long; didn't read." really means: (meant tongue in cheek don't get your knickers in a twist reading this, but yea I still think it is rude and childish).
1. The inability to accept, understand or pay attention to information when not separated by a header.
2. The ability to arbitrarily read 400 small posts but not a long one.
3. A sign of ADD or lack of reading capability.
4. A very cheap response and an indication of lack of wit.
5. 90% of the time: A lie.
6. A desperate attempt at a comeback used by people who just can't think of one.
7. Usually used by people who've been torn apart verbally but want one last attempt at looking witty.
8. Total failure at #7.
7. A sign that, not only is someone too lazy and stupid to read but, clearly, too lazy and stupid to even type out four words indicating such.
9. Collect every "tl,dr" post online, and you'll have a good estimate of the number of lazy idiots on Earth, who currently have Internet access.
10. Should really be:
"Too Lazy, Don't Read."
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I'm not seeing any myth; I'm seeing an OP that's apparently confused as to why people recommend weight lifting. It's not to burn more calories, although it does do a bit of that; rather, it's to retain lean mass. It's really that simple and no amount of cardio is going to give you that same benefit. But if you don't want to lift, then don't. Frankly, you don't have to do any exercise just to lose weight, and certainly no one's forcing you to do it.0
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Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
Just you wait.
You'll have some plank come along any second now and say "you must be new here" followed by "bacon!" and possibly a cat gif.
Any second now...0 -
I have not read this whole string, but exercise will not burn that many calories. Diet is way more important in regards to losing weight. Cardio is great for gaining the ability to exert moderate effort over a sustained period of time. Strength training is great for training yourself to exert more force for short duration, and build muscle mass.
You have to really bust *kitten* in either department in order to burn enough calories to make a tangible difference. In other words it is much easier not to eat a Snickers bar than it is to run long enough on a tread mill to burn the Snicker bar off.0 -
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
Probably because the one that was packed full of good scientific knowledge was packed full of good, scientific knowledge. This one......not so much.
Anyway, I would say tl;dr but unfortunately, I did read it. I prefer lifting to cardio because I look sexier when incorporating heavy lifting, but I still do both.0 -
Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
Just you wait.
You'll have some plank come along any second now and say "you must be new here" followed by "bacon!" and possibly a cat gif.
Any second now...
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Eat at a deficit to lose fat.
Do cardio for your health.
Lift to look hot.
/thread
^this
And really...to the folks saying TL:DNR or whatever, if you read the first paragraph....you read the whole thing. It just says the same wrong stuff over and over.0 -
Great way to start Friday off with some light reading :laugh:
No point in repeating what everyone else has said lol0 -
Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
Just you wait.
You'll have some plank come along any second now and say "you must be new here" followed by "bacon!" and possibly a cat gif.
Any second now...
Great.
Now I am oddly turned on.
Bloody kids these days...0 -
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Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
Just you wait.
You'll have some plank come along any second now and say "you must be new here" followed by "bacon!" and possibly a cat gif.
Any second now...
Thanks a lot, I may have to have a Jay and Silent Bob marathon real soon.0 -
The title of this thread made me laugh. Then I saw how long it was and there was no point to reading something wrong.0
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methinks this will be a **** storm.
Me thinks so too...this is that Friday post that everyone was looking for yesterday0 -
TL;DR, but in for gifs.
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I feel like people are going to bash on this without really understanding your meaning.
My thoughts - yep, weight lifting is overrated for the average Joe (I'm thinking non-competition weight lifters who don't aim to get super big just because) - other than for those people who love it. That's because they've found their favourite exercise and will stick to a workout plan, hence keeping fit! You will burn calories while lifting weights, and once they show in the way that you were aiming for you're going to feel great because you feel like you look great (and probably do!).
Cardio is great, it will help to burn those higher calories and help you on a day to day basis with your calorie goals. I personally like cardio because it also helps me stave off hunger (I'm randomly less hungry after doing a cardio workout). I also think there are a lot of heart and lung benefits that are particularly emphasized in cardio exercises that can be hard to find elsewhere unless you're lifting very heavy or very quickly (which... would just be a cardio exercise haha).
I personally think both types of exercises have their place and the benefits and consequences. It's up for each individual to decide which mix of exercise is most useful for them.
And lets face it. You have to watch your diet no matter if you do weights or cardio.
I have to disagree with the bolded part...
I lift and do some cardio (nothing hard tho as far as cardio) and it's not overrated...
Women esp should do some sort of resistence/strength training to help with health later in life..because not only will it help maintain muscle mass it's good for our bones too...consequences of weight lifting??? if done right...I can't think of any....consequences of cardio if done right...not maintaining muscle mass.
As well...prior to weight lifting I maintained on 1995...I now maintain on 2267...that says something.0 -
You do your thing and I will do mine. Mine consists of a calorie deficit, weight lifting and minimal cardio. I prefer it that way. :flowerforyou:0
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Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
Some are interesting to read, some; not so much.0 -
Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
It's not a double standard. They are completely two different things. One is actually full of good solid information backed by science and research, the other is just some guy saying, "it seems to me that weight lifting is bad..." Blah, blah, blah. It isn't interesting, there is no draw, it is extremely poor writing...I feel like I'm reading air. It's just nothing. The content is useless. I learn nothing, I gain nothing. It's just a big black hole from which I can never get that time back. A scientific study that dives into detail can be extremely illuminating and could completely change how I exercise or what I eat for the rest of my life.
So, it's not a double standard at all. They are different things, completely.
Ummm....If it was TL (Too Long): DR (Didn't Read), then how would someone know how well it was written? I agree that it was not written terribly well and was full of unsubstantiated declarations, but many people (not all) said they didn't read it because it was too long. If their problem is content or quality of writing, then TL;TD is not the appropriate response.0 -
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You can skim to look for cues that there is actual info beyond that of the posters opinion. At that point you TL;DR or go back and read a post of substance.Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
I was thinking the same thing. Recently I read a post equally as long that was packed full of good scientific information and the OP was praised by all for it. I don't really understand the double-standard where length is concerned.
It's not a double standard. They are completely two different things. One is actually full of good solid information backed by science and research, the other is just some guy saying, "it seems to me that weight lifting is bad..." Blah, blah, blah. It isn't interesting, there is no draw, it is extremely poor writing...I feel like I'm reading air. It's just nothing. The content is useless. I learn nothing, I gain nothing. It's just a big black hole from which I can never get that time back. A scientific study that dives into detail can be extremely illuminating and could completely change how I exercise or what I eat for the rest of my life.
So, it's not a double standard at all. They are different things, completely.
Ummm....If it was TL (Too Long): DR (Didn't Read), then how would someone know how well it was written? I agree that it was not written terribly well and was full of unsubstantiated declarations, but many people (not all) said they didn't read it because it was too long. If their problem is content or quality of writing, then TL;TD is not the appropriate response.0 -
Ummm....If it was TL (Too Long): DR (Didn't Read), then how would someone know how well it was written? I agree that it was not written terribly well and was full of unsubstantiated declarations, but many people (not all) said they didn't read it because it was too long. If their problem is content or quality of writing, then TL;TD is not the appropriate response.
You can generally tell from the first few paragraphs and skimming the post if it's something worth reading.0 -
Ummm....If it was TL (Too Long): DR (Didn't Read), then how would someone know how well it was written? I agree that it was not written terribly well and was full of unsubstantiated declarations, but many people (not all) said they didn't read it because it was too long. If their problem is content or quality of writing, then TL;TD is not the appropriate response.
You can generally tell from the first few paragraphs and skimming the post if it's something worth reading.
Ok, I get it. TLDR doesn't really mean Too Long Didn't Read. It means Skimmed, Not Worth Reading In Detail. Just like LOL doesn't really mean Laughing Out Loud.
Getting a little off point now....I think I'll move on...LOL.....0 -
I love how she comes in to lecture people for not reading the entire post and yet doesn't bother to add anything of value to the conversation herself.Far too much TL;DR going on here and I think that response is unnecessary, juvenile and rude. If you can't be bothered to read the entire post then your response is irrelevant, start your own thread instead.
From Urban Dictionary: "too long; didn't read." really means: (meant tongue in cheek don't get your knickers in a twist reading this, but yea I still think it is rude and childish).
1. The inability to accept, understand or pay attention to information when not separated by a header.
2. The ability to arbitrarily read 400 small posts but not a long one.
3. A sign of ADD or lack of reading capability.
4. A very cheap response and an indication of lack of wit.
5. 90% of the time: A lie.
6. A desperate attempt at a comeback used by people who just can't think of one.
7. Usually used by people who've been torn apart verbally but want one last attempt at looking witty.
8. Total failure at #7.
7. A sign that, not only is someone too lazy and stupid to read but, clearly, too lazy and stupid to even type out four words indicating such.
9. Collect every "tl,dr" post online, and you'll have a good estimate of the number of lazy idiots on Earth, who currently have Internet access.
10. Should really be:
"Too Lazy, Don't Read."
Thread hijacking is against the TOS. If you want to lecture people maybe start your own thread.
Cute.0 -
In for the TL;DR discussion. It's easier to follow than the meanderings of the OP.0
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In..
Since I did read the OP plus the 6 pages (currently) to follow.
What am I doing with my life?0
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