The thing about ice cream

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    The thing that I always forget, is that I actually love healthy food! I get so focused on wanting something that I "shouldn't" have, but often when I resist I am pretty satisfied with something way more reasonable.

    why "shouldn't" you have ice cream …nothing wrong with ice cream …and there are no "bad" foods...
  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    The thing that I always forget, is that I actually love healthy food! I get so focused on wanting something that I "shouldn't" have, but often when I resist I am pretty satisfied with something way more reasonable.

    why "shouldn't" you have ice cream …nothing wrong with ice cream …and there are no "bad" foods...

    I just find it hard to fit into my calorie goals. I know there's nothing wrong with it, but I guess I mean I shouldn't have it often.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"
  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"

    Why do you care so much? The thread I started was not about the nutritional value of ice cream. It was about having a personal realization that it isn't actually as satisfying to me as I thought it was. That's why I wasn't interested in a debate on how healthy it was. Make sense?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"

    Why do you care so much? The thread I started was not about the nutritional value of ice cream. It was about having a personal realization that it isn't actually as satisfying to me as I thought it was. That's why I wasn't interested in a debate on how healthy it was. Make sense?

    if you did not want commentary on it why did you post it in a public forum that is open to others to comment and then complain when they comment…?
  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"

    Why do you care so much? The thread I started was not about the nutritional value of ice cream. It was about having a personal realization that it isn't actually as satisfying to me as I thought it was. That's why I wasn't interested in a debate on how healthy it was. Make sense?

    if you did not want commentary on it why did you post it in a public forum that is open to others to comment and then complain when they comment…?

    Dude, I don't know what's up with you, but all I was saying was that I didn't want to get into a negative back and forth, as often happens on these message boards for some reason. The person I was responding to made a comment about ice cream having nutritional value because of the protein, which is relatively inaccurate, since it has barely any. If you didn't notice, I did not further engage in that part of the conversation and let everyone else publicly comment and debate. The topic that I presented was not really about the health benefits of ice cream, so I didn't want to argue about it.
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"

    Why do you care so much? The thread I started was not about the nutritional value of ice cream. It was about having a personal realization that it isn't actually as satisfying to me as I thought it was. That's why I wasn't interested in a debate on how healthy it was. Make sense?

    if you did not want commentary on it why did you post it in a public forum that is open to others to comment and then complain when they comment…?

    Dude, I don't know what's up with you, but all I was saying was that I didn't want to get into a negative back and forth, as often happens on these message boards for some reason. The person I was responding to made a comment about ice cream having nutritional value because of the protein, which is relatively inaccurate, since it has barely any. If you didn't notice, I did not further engage in that part of the conversation and let everyone else publicly comment and debate. The topic that I presented was not really about the health benefits of ice cream, so I didn't want to argue about it.

    I am curious about people that post public threads and then complain when people comment on them….
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"

    Why do you care so much? The thread I started was not about the nutritional value of ice cream. It was about having a personal realization that it isn't actually as satisfying to me as I thought it was. That's why I wasn't interested in a debate on how healthy it was. Make sense?

    if you did not want commentary on it why did you post it in a public forum that is open to others to comment and then complain when they comment…?

    Welcome back my brother. Wel.......come..............back
    its like I never left...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    oh and I just had a serving of talenti cookie carmel gelato and found it very satisfying and I am now full...
  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I am not trying to get into a debate here, but ice cream really has no redeeming nutritional value. There are 3 grams of protein in a serving of vanilla ice cream. The rest is fat and sugar. I am in no way trying to demonize ice cream. If it fits into your calorie allotment for the day, go for it. That's exactly what I did today. My point was only that it didn't actually satisfy me. That's it. Just becoming aware of how a certain food made me feel and making an observation about it, in hopes that I learn from it when making choices in the future. It would be one thing if I had the ice cream, and then was satisfied by my choice and felt good about having a treat. That is not what happened in my case. End of story. Everyone else can eat all the ice cream they want, and I will not judge. However when you eat it, you might not want to delude yourself that there is a nutritional benefit.

    OP does not want to debate this but started a public thread that is open to comments and debate…interesting..

    maybe you should start a private group titled "ice cream haters"

    Why do you care so much? The thread I started was not about the nutritional value of ice cream. It was about having a personal realization that it isn't actually as satisfying to me as I thought it was. That's why I wasn't interested in a debate on how healthy it was. Make sense?

    if you did not want commentary on it why did you post it in a public forum that is open to others to comment and then complain when they comment…?

    Dude, I don't know what's up with you, but all I was saying was that I didn't want to get into a negative back and forth, as often happens on these message boards for some reason. The person I was responding to made a comment about ice cream having nutritional value because of the protein, which is relatively inaccurate, since it has barely any. If you didn't notice, I did not further engage in that part of the conversation and let everyone else publicly comment and debate. The topic that I presented was not really about the health benefits of ice cream, so I didn't want to argue about it.

    I am curious about people that post public threads and then complain when people comment on them….

    I wasn't complaining that people were commenting, it's just annoying when they start going on a tangent debating something with inaccurate info in a condescending tone. That's all. Sorry if I was unclear. I love sharing ideas with people in a public forum. That's why I posted.
  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    Somehow I feel like we're just not talking about ice cream anymore...
  • RUNNING_AMOK_1958
    RUNNING_AMOK_1958 Posts: 268 Member
    I ate ice cream almost every day for dessert, not a meal replacement, and lost 50 pounds. I still eat it for dessert almost every day.
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  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    The thing about ice cream is that it's just not that big of a deal in either direction. Some people act like eating it is a mortal sin and others act as if they should get a trophy with every bowl.

    It's delicious, yes. It can fit reasonably into a healthy diet, yes. At the end of the day though, it ends up like everything else we eat. So why the hell argue about it? If you don't like/want/need it, or if you feel that it's something you can't moderate yourself on, then don't. If you can, then do. I don't understand why either side feels the need to brag about it? The world isn't going to end if someone does/doesn't eat ice cream.

    Sanity prevails.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    The thing about ice cream is that it's just not that big of a deal in either direction. Some people act like eating it is a mortal sin and others act as if they should get a trophy with every bowl.

    It's delicious, yes. It can fit reasonably into a healthy diet, yes. At the end of the day though, it ends up like everything else we eat. So why the hell argue about it? If you don't like/want/need it, or if you feel that it's something you can't moderate yourself on, then don't. If you can, then do. I don't understand why either side feels the need to brag about it? The world isn't going to end if someone does/doesn't eat ice cream.

    I believe the main objection is when it is labeled as "bad"…it is not good or bad, it is just ice cream, which I freaking love...
  • RUNNING_AMOK_1958
    RUNNING_AMOK_1958 Posts: 268 Member
    _KitKat_ wrote: »

    Breyers - Chocolate Ice Cream, 1/2 cup 66g (calories)140 (c)17 (f)7 (p)2
    Avocado, Haas - Usda (Grams), 66 g (calories)110 (c)6 (f)10 (p)1


    Why is an avocado more real? Please explain.

    Fat and protein are what satiates most people. The only issue with ice cream is it has higher carbs, same as bread...rice or any other carb. The fat and protein is a bonus. Also 140 calories is normally pretty easy to work in.

    I wouldn't say an avocado is more real, but it's healthier. Avocados may have roughly the same amount of fat as ice cream, but it's good fat, monounsaturated fat. The carbs in ice cream come from processed sugar.
  • glasshalffull713
    glasshalffull713 Posts: 323 Member
    The thing about ice cream is that it's just not that big of a deal in either direction. Some people act like eating it is a mortal sin and others act as if they should get a trophy with every bowl.

    It's delicious, yes. It can fit reasonably into a healthy diet, yes. At the end of the day though, it ends up like everything else we eat. So why the hell argue about it? If you don't like/want/need it, or if you feel that it's something you can't moderate yourself on, then don't. If you can, then do. I don't understand why either side feels the need to brag about it? The world isn't going to end if someone does/doesn't eat ice cream.

    ETA: Oh and for the record, protein isn't the only redeeming nutritional value. Fat, and carbs (sugar) are redeeming nutritional values as well.

    :) Yeah but getting enough fat and carbs is not a problem for me AT ALL
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    The thing about ice cream is that it's just not that big of a deal in either direction. Some people act like eating it is a mortal sin and others act as if they should get a trophy with every bowl.

    It's delicious, yes. It can fit reasonably into a healthy diet, yes. At the end of the day though, it ends up like everything else we eat. So why the hell argue about it? If you don't like/want/need it, or if you feel that it's something you can't moderate yourself on, then don't. If you can, then do. I don't understand why either side feels the need to brag about it? The world isn't going to end if someone does/doesn't eat ice cream.

    Sanity prevails.

    Unfortunately, this is rare.

    But I love this post. People are like "Oh, I eat ice cream every day, I have 2,600 different kinds in my freezer right now!" I'm like, good for you, no one cares. LOL
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,660 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    I can't help. The best lunches I've had were peanut buster parfaits from Dairy Queen.

    If I was before a firing squad, that would be my last meal, definitely.
  • icanplay3
    icanplay3 Posts: 173 Member
    Hmmm..wishing for Talenti coconut gelato now...must get to the store tomorrow
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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,209 Member
    Well, some people just can't do moderation.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    The thing that I always forget, is that I actually love healthy food! I get so focused on wanting something that I "shouldn't" have, but often when I resist I am pretty satisfied with something way more reasonable.

    I know, right! Friday night I scarfed down doritos for dessert and Saturday I had cottage chess and fruit and I was equally happy. Dumb.

    Ice cream and Doritos can both be a part of a balanced diet. Not sure what is unhealthy about ice cream.

    Ok, what are the health benefits of ice cream?

    it makes me happy- and my mental health is important to me- as it should be to you as well.

    It's a dairy- and a fat- so I get double bonus points.

    It's also a really great way to add calories to your day when you're all done with the rest of your food.

    If you have ever bulked- ice cream becomes a way of life.
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  • CaitlinW19
    CaitlinW19 Posts: 431 Member
    This is how I feel about fast food typically and especially when I'm giving my body good, healthy foods. I "have to have" Arby's or whatever and then I feel guilty for having the food, unsatisfied because it didn't tastes that great afterall and (weirdest of all) it leaves me feeling still hungry. Oh and not to mention how expensive it was too. It helps me now to remember it never tastes as good as I think it will. That being said, I pretty much only eat frozen yogurt now...then I can have the best of both worlds. My dinner and my treat. I don't miss ice cream at all if I have frozen yogurt. Doen't mean I don't dream about DQ sometimes, but I would be so happy if they'd bring back froyo there so it's not really the actual ice cream I care about there.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    The thing that I always forget, is that I actually love healthy food! I get so focused on wanting something that I "shouldn't" have, but often when I resist I am pretty satisfied with something way more reasonable.

    I know, right! Friday night I scarfed down doritos for dessert and Saturday I had cottage chess and fruit and I was equally happy. Dumb.

    Ice cream and Doritos can both be a part of a balanced diet. Not sure what is unhealthy about ice cream.

    Ok, what are the health benefits of ice cream?

    it makes me happy- and my mental health is important to me- as it should be to you as well.

    It's a dairy- and a fat- so I get double bonus points.

    It's also a really great way to add calories to your day when you're all done with the rest of your food.

    If you have ever bulked- ice cream becomes a way of life.
    Don't forget the pop tarts. Pop tart ice cream sandwich.


    meh- I'm honestly not a big poptart fan- I'll do standard ice cream sammiches though- and ice cream for breakfast- I seriously love ice cream.

    But poptarts- meh- i'd rather have like- blueberry pancakes or something. so delicious.

    or bacon egg and cheese bagel.

    yes please.
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  • ironsun
    ironsun Posts: 30
    Warm chocolate chip pop-tarts with ice cream are awesome. It has to be the right flavor of pop-tart. Some are just not good.