Fruits are needed

jdavis193

I have been seeing a lot of people saying they don't eat fruit because of the sugars. I just want to tell you that You should be eating fruit. The sugars are good for you. The processed are the ones you don't want. Just wanted to clear that up.

Mindful_Trent

While I agree fruits are good for us, I think it's not as simple as saying fruit sugar is good, processed sugar is bad. You shouldn't be eating unlimited amounts of fruit a day. Sugar is sugar. Added sugar should be kept to a minimum (and it should be natural (honey, maple syrup) rather than processed when possible), but even non-added sugar (milk sugars, fruit sugars) should be eaten in moderation.

I try to keep my total sugar between 10 and 15% of my total calories (1g sugar = 4 calories). Yes, fruits are good for you - they have loads of fiber, vitamins, etc. - they should be a part of any balanced diet. That said, people need to remember that if they're on a reduced calorie diet to lose weight, then they should reduce the amount of fruit they eat in a day (Everything should be reduced proportionately). So while I may eat 2-3 servings of fruit a day on my maintenance calorie level, I'm only eating 1-2 a day on my weight-loss calorie level.

freerange

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

Beebs33

All I know is that I eat 1 apple, 2 cups of grapes, 2 clementine cuties or 2 apples, 2 clementine cuties and 1 cup of strawberries or any combination and I feel great. I keep track of it in my food diary and it always says I'm over my sugar intake but I have lost some weight and feel great. I really think each person is different and learning how much of something you can eat is really trial and error. But I'm no nutritionist...I just am getting to know my own body:)

wolfchild59

If I adjust nothing else in my general eating habits other than eating more fruit than normal in a week, I'm more likely to see a gain at my weekly weigh-in, or at least continued stalls. So while I do eat fruit because I love it, I try to never go overboard. I try to eat more veggies than fruit since those don't cause me any gains or stalls.

Edit - This should be more past tense since I've actually been stalled overall for awhile now. But I did eat 1/2-1cup of strawberries every single day the week before last and saw a small gain, when nothing else had changed.

jdavis193

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

The Fruit sugar in Fructose is broken down by the slowly and is covered into sucrose and glycogen. The process is sucrose and it effects the blood sugar differently. There are a lot of articles that explains in detail about it. We are supposed to eat 2 to 4 a day.

jdavis193

If I adjust nothing else in my general eating habits other than eating more fruit than normal in a week, I'm more likely to see a gain at my weekly weigh-in, or at least continued stalls. So while I do eat fruit because I love it, I try to never go overboard. I try to eat more veggies than fruit since those don't cause me any gains or stalls.

Do you measure out your fruit? If you eat from mellon or berries. Usually people who don't measure that does happen. The portions are not exact.

doutri2

If you are doing the first two weeks of South Beach Diet, fruit is on the Don't Eat list. Many fruits rank high in the glycemic index, thus raising your blood sugar and increasing cravings for more sugar.

I am writing this from memory of reading the book a few years back, so don't quote me. But that is the general idea. This does not mean that I am no longer eating fruit. I try to eat veggies more than fruit.

Mindful_Trent

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

The Fruit sugar in Fructose is broken down by the slowly and is covered into sucrose and glycogen. The process is sucrose and it effects the blood sugar differently. There are a lot of articles that explains in detail about it. We are supposed to eat 2 to 4 a day.

It's not very accurate to say everyone should eat 2-4 a day - it really depends on your calorie level. Someone who is on 1200 calories/day doesn't need that much. Someone eating 2000 calories a day - it makes more sense to eat 2-3 a day. Fruits shouldn't make up a huge % of your daily calories - if you're on 1200 cal/day and eat 4 servings of fruit, that could easily be 30-40% of your calories. The USDA recommends only 1 cup of fruit per day for someone on a 1200 calorie diet.
http://www.mypyramid.gov/professionals/food_tracking_wksht.html

(The reason I'm focusing so much on the 1200 calories is becasue MANY people on this site set that as their calorie goal. My point is that the fewer calories you eat a day, the less fruit you need (and less meat, and less grains) - it should all reduce proportionately. As you increase to maintenance level, then it makes sense to eat more fruit.)

jdavis193

Ya when I was majoring in personal training we had classes about nutrtion I don't like the south beach diet or atkins thats just my personal opinion. I just don't understand why if people want to get "healthy" why they would chose processed sugars over fruit!!

jdavis193

That's why I said 2-4 servings. One serving of fruit can be a half cup depending on the fruit. I learned all of this in my nutrition class.

freerange

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-sugar/

Nothing is ever "cleared up" There is always two sides, and presenting your side as the only one is,,,,,,,,,, well short sighted.

Don't get me wrong, I like fruit, fruit has many advantages, I had a half of a grapefruit this morning in fact, but need isn't one of their advantages.

mandykasase

Here in the UK, it's been simplified for us. It is recomended that you should eat five portions of fruit and veg. 5 differerent things so you can't have 5 apples. It has to be 5 portions you can make a smothies with 3 of your fruit portions and have 2 veg portions with your dinner and you are covered. "Feel Alive and Eat 5 a day" Simples!!

xraychick77

i eat fruits. i weigh 119 lbs

cnash81

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

The Fruit sugar in Fructose is broken down by the slowly and is covered into sucrose and glycogen. The process is sucrose and it effects the blood sugar differently. There are a lot of articles that explains in detail about it. We are supposed to eat 2 to 4 a day.

It's not very accurate to say everyone should eat 2-4 a day - it really depends on your calorie level. Someone who is on 1200 calories/day doesn't need that much. Someone eating 2000 calories a day - it makes more sense to eat 2-3 a day. Fruits shouldn't make up a huge % of your daily calories - if you're on 1200 cal/day and eat 4 servings of fruit, that could easily be 30-40% of your calories. The USDA recommends only 1 cup of fruit per day for someone on a 1200 calorie diet.
http://www.mypyramid.gov/professionals/food_tracking_wksht.html

(The reason I'm focusing so much on the 1200 calories is becasue MANY people on this site set that as their calorie goal. My point is that the fewer calories you eat a day, the less fruit you need (and less meat, and less grains) - it should all reduce proportionately. As you increase to maintenance level, then it makes sense to eat more fruit.)

Wow....I never thought of it this way, but it makes perfect sense to me that everything should be reduced proportionately in relation to your calorie intake. :happy:

jdavis193

Yes it does You can always follow the food pyramid. Most diabetics are not supposed to have the higher sugar fruit but its better than the processed. I have successfully when from 130 to 112 less than 10 mo while eating fruit. I think it depends on the extras you eat.

robertf57

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

The Fruit sugar in Fructose is broken down by the slowly and is covered into sucrose and glycogen. The process is sucrose and it effects the blood sugar differently. There are a lot of articles that explains in detail about it. We are supposed to eat 2 to 4 a day.

Absolutely wrong. Fructose is a 5 carbon monosaccharide ( one sugar molecule) that is one of the components of sucrose( table sugar- a disaccharide -- 2 sugar molecule). Fructose is almost entirely metabolized in the liver and can not be used by most other body tissues. It is not converted into sucrose. Post something you know about

jdavis193

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

The Fruit sugar in Fructose is broken down by the slowly and is covered into sucrose and glycogen. The process is sucrose and it effects the blood sugar differently. There are a lot of articles that explains in detail about it. We are supposed to eat 2 to 4 a day.

Absolutely wrong. Fructose is a 5 carbon monosaccharide ( one sugar molecule) that is one of the components of sucrose( table sugar- a disaccharide -- 2 sugar molecule). Fructose is almost entirely metabolized in the liver and can not be used by most other body tissues. It is not converted into sucrose. Post something you know about

It is actually in the material I had gotten from class. I do know what I am talking about.

jdavis193

Fruit eating offers many benefits:

* Fruit is the best source of the natural sugar needed for energy.
* Fruit is packed with vitamins, and still represents the best source of vitamins in any food.
* Fruit is packed with anti-oxidants.
* Fruit is easier to digest than grains. Fruit is basically pre-digested. Digesting ripe fruit hardly requires any digestive enzymes, and is thus less taxing to the body.
* Fruit is alkaline forming (whereas meat, fish, grains and legumes are acid-forming).
* Fruit contains an abundance of pure water.
* Fruit is easy to eat. It doesn’t require much preparation.
* Fruit is beautiful. All of our senses are nourished by fruit, not just our taste buds.
* People who eat lots of fruit live longer. A study published in the British Medical Journal (September 2001), showed that fresh fruit offers the best bet for a long life. The results of a study showed that frequent fruit eaters had a 32 percent lower risk of dying from cerebrovascular disease such as stroke, and a 24 percent lower risk of dying from ischemic heart disease, than those who ate fruit less than once a day.
* Fruit contains lots of fiber, which is necessary for optimum digestion.

Eating fruit before meals and other food combining

jdavis193

Is fruit too high in sugar?
The body needs natural sugar as a source of energy. When starchy foods such as potatoes and bread are eaten, the digestive enzymes break down complex sugar (starch) into simpler sugars. When fruit is eaten, the body uses the simple sugars (fructose or others) directly, without needing to break them down any further. However, this is not like eating refined sugar. In the case of refined sugar, the food is devoid of nutrients and fiber. Thus, the sugar enters the blood quickly and is not slowed down by the process of digesting fiber. Plus, the calories found in sugar are “empty” because they do not provide any vitamins or minerals. Fruit, on the other hand, is a nutrient-dense food. Which means that for every calorie it provides, it also gives many micro-nutrients - vitamins and minerals.

If you cut out most sweet fruit (sugar) and most or all complex carbohydrates (starch), then you will need to get your calories from other sources - protein or fat. It is difficult to get a lot of calories from protein, and high-protein diets are generally recognized to be harmful for health. So what will happen inevitably is that you’ll end up eating large amounts of fats. The consequences of eating a high-fat diet are well-researched. (See Klaper, McDougall, Fuhrman, Barnard, etc.)

Most leading vegetarian and vegan experts recommend a diet with about 10-15% of the calories coming from fat. Certainly, no credible health expert would recommend a diet with more than 20-25% of the calories coming from fat.

But many raw-food enthusiasts are not aware of this. They live on a very high-fat diet. They eat raw nut butters, nut pates, refined oils, flax crackers, etc. They’ll make a salad with 2-3 avocados thrown in there (sometimes more!), and the bag of macadamia nuts becomes their comfort food. On average, they get more than 50% of their calories from fat, often up to 70%. Without a doubt, such a large amount of fat in the diet is extremely unhealthy and is the main reason why most people fail on those diets.

An unfortunate side-effect of that unhealthy diet is that they can no longer handle sweet fruit. It has been proven that high-fat diets decrease insulin sensitivity (the effectiveness of insulin in carrying sugar to the cells), and thus raise blood sugar levels. 1 So those living on high-fat diets, that is, most raw-foodists, will inevitably experience more blood sugar swings when they eat fruit. So the problem is not the fruit per se, but the high amounts of fat consumed. Once you substantially reduce the amount of fat that you eat, by eliminating all oils and reducing the quantities of avocados, nuts, and other fatty foods, your body will be able to process and utilize fruit sugar much more efficiently.

With the knowledge that the primary source of fuel for the human body is natural sugar, the concept of fruit having “too much” sugar becomes illogical. The only way you can consume too much sugar in the form of fruit would be to overeat, which is difficult to achieve when eating high-water content fruit.

wolfchild59

If I adjust nothing else in my general eating habits other than eating more fruit than normal in a week, I'm more likely to see a gain at my weekly weigh-in, or at least continued stalls. So while I do eat fruit because I love it, I try to never go overboard. I try to eat more veggies than fruit since those don't cause me any gains or stalls.

Do you measure out your fruit? If you eat from mellon or berries. Usually people who don't measure that does happen. The portions are not exact.

I measure everything I eat. As much as possible, if I can't measure it first, I don't eat it. I strive on accuracy in reporting of all things.

freerange

Is fruit too high in sugar?
The body needs natural sugar as a source of energy. When starchy foods such as potatoes and bread are eaten, the digestive enzymes break down complex sugar (starch) into simpler sugars. When fruit is eaten, the body uses the simple sugars (fructose or others) directly, without needing to break them down any further. However, this is not like eating refined sugar. In the case of refined sugar, the food is devoid of nutrients and fiber. Thus, the sugar enters the blood quickly and is not slowed down by the process of digesting fiber. Plus, the calories found in sugar are “empty” because they do not provide any vitamins or minerals. Fruit, on the other hand, is a nutrient-dense food. Which means that for every calorie it provides, it also gives many micro-nutrients - vitamins and minerals.

If you cut out most sweet fruit (sugar) and most or all complex carbohydrates (starch), then you will need to get your calories from other sources - protein or fat. It is difficult to get a lot of calories from protein, and high-protein diets are generally recognized to be harmful for health. So what will happen inevitably is that you’ll end up eating large amounts of fats. The consequences of eating a high-fat diet are well-researched. (See Klaper, McDougall, Fuhrman, Barnard, etc.)

Most leading vegetarian and vegan experts recommend a diet with about 10-15% of the calories coming from fat. Certainly, no credible health expert would recommend a diet with more than 20-25% of the calories coming from fat.

But many raw-food enthusiasts are not aware of this. They live on a very high-fat diet. They eat raw nut butters, nut pates, refined oils, flax crackers, etc. They’ll make a salad with 2-3 avocados thrown in there (sometimes more!), and the bag of macadamia nuts becomes their comfort food. On average, they get more than 50% of their calories from fat, often up to 70%. Without a doubt, such a large amount of fat in the diet is extremely unhealthy and is the main reason why most people fail on those diets.

An unfortunate side-effect of that unhealthy diet is that they can no longer handle sweet fruit. It has been proven that high-fat diets decrease insulin sensitivity (the effectiveness of insulin in carrying sugar to the cells), and thus raise blood sugar levels. 1 So those living on high-fat diets, that is, most raw-foodists, will inevitably experience more blood sugar swings when they eat fruit. So the problem is not the fruit per se, but the high amounts of fat consumed. Once you substantially reduce the amount of fat that you eat, by eliminating all oils and reducing the quantities of avocados, nuts, and other fatty foods, your body will be able to process and utilize fruit sugar much more efficiently.

With the knowledge that the primary source of fuel for the human body is natural sugar, the concept of fruit having “too much” sugar becomes illogical. The only way you can consume too much sugar in the form of fruit would be to overeat, which is difficult to achieve when eating high-water content fruit.

WOW, such misinformation I don't know where to start, so I will just let it go, and wish you a good day.

shreddingit

sugar is sugar
Fruits are good but you gotta eat them in moderation if ur trying to lose weight
U can get the same benefits from vitamins and other foods.
u need to know wen to eat them aswell

Lakerlady5747

Honestly, I think fruit is a much better choice for a snack than other options. I really enjoy the taste of fruit (it satisfies my sweet tooth) and I'm not going to "give up" fruit just because of the sugar level. Yes, I am trying to lose weight, but I'm trying to do it by making a LIFESTYLE change. I KNOW that if I would deprive myself of some of my favorite foods (fruit included), I would most definitely FAIL. I will continue to eat fruit with my lunch and as a snack. And you know what? I KNOW I will succeed in losing weight and keeping it off.

jdavis193

Honestly, I think fruit is a much better choice for a snack than other options. I really enjoy the taste of fruit (it satisfies my sweet tooth) and I'm not going to "give up" fruit just because of the sugar level. Yes, I am trying to lose weight, but I'm trying to do it by making a LIFESTYLE change. I KNOW that if I would deprive myself of some of my favorite foods (fruit included), I would most definitely FAIL. I will continue to eat fruit with my lunch and as a snack. And you know what? I KNOW I will succeed in losing weight and keeping it off.

Yes that is where I am getting at. People are so uninformed about nutrition! Its amazing that if you are trying to eat healthy you need more healthy foods besides the processed crap

shreddingit

and its funny how some ppl are mis informed about sugar and fruit...there is a lot to know and a lot of scientific research behind both
plus if ppl are trying to lose weight why do they stick to the more sugary carb loaded fruits?, there are so many more options
you need to read why our ancestors use to eat fruit, its a mind opener..

hollyknouse

Not that what I have to say matters a whole lot but I eat a lot of fruit each day and am almost down 100 pounds. That being said I am a little obsessed with doing everything exactly right all of the time and it drives me crazy when it says that I am over my sugar by a lot each day. I really think it goes back to do what works for you and your body.

elizamc

While I agree fruits are good for us, I think it's not as simple as saying fruit sugar is good, processed sugar is bad. You shouldn't be eating unlimited amounts of fruit a day. Sugar is sugar. Added sugar should be kept to a minimum (and it should be natural (honey, maple syrup) rather than processed when possible), but even non-added sugar (milk sugars, fruit sugars) should be eaten in moderation.

I try to keep my total sugar between 10 and 15% of my total calories (1g sugar = 4 calories). Yes, fruits are good for you - they have loads of fiber, vitamins, etc. - they should be a part of any balanced diet. That said, people need to remember that if they're on a reduced calorie diet to lose weight, then they should reduce the amount of fruit they eat in a day (Everything should be reduced proportionately). So while I may eat 2-3 servings of fruit a day on my maintenance calorie level, I'm only eating 1-2 a day on my weight-loss calorie level.

I agree with cutting back on fruit. I too am restricting mynfruit intake whilst I'm working on losing weight. When I did my first day of recording I was shocked to see how much the fruit added up. I've cut back - amongst other things - and am now seeing results.

robertf57

Get your tuition refunded. I am not quoting expert opinion, this is basic biochemistry

Well that clears that up,,,,,, not.

The Fruit sugar in Fructose is broken down by the slowly and is covered into sucrose and glycogen. The process is sucrose and it effects the blood sugar differently. There are a lot of articles that explains in detail about it. We are supposed to eat 2 to 4 a day.

Absolutely wrong. Fructose is a 5 carbon monosaccharide ( one sugar molecule) that is one of the components of sucrose( table sugar- a disaccharide -- 2 sugar molecule). Fructose is almost entirely metabolized in the liver and can not be used by most other body tissues. It is not converted into sucrose. Post something you know about

It is actually in the material I had gotten from class. I do know what I am talking about.

jdavis193

Well again it's my opinion and thats why I posted it and there are several that will agree that we need fruits and people who say they are bad for you which I have been told which is hysterical!!! I know what I have learned and what I believe. I have been studying for several years now. I believe that fruit sugar is better for you than processed sugar. I have seen so many people who drink there cals when it's not good for you as in just eating a simple fruit. example someone who drinks a pepsi for there snack instead of fruit and then say they are eating "healthy" I don't think so. I used to not eat as much fruit and I am glad I do now I always eat a carb with a protein.

ladybg81

I eat a lot more fruit than veggies because I am really not a big veggie fan. I figure fruit is better than the other things I could be eating. It sucks that they are a lot higher in calories than veggies. But, again, moderation is key.