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I actually agree with the sox fan (hard to admit from a mariner fan). Just correcting a couple false assumptions, and marvelling at the intensity of the response. To twinkie diet guy, I bet that professor was hungry as all heck for those 10 weeks.0
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Alcoholics do mediate AA meetings. Just an FYI.
As far as I know, fat has no bearing on knowledge (regarding the overweight nutritionist comment). A doctor who smokes still has some credibility, no? Lighten up, I think his response was meant to be taken tongue in cheek. I hardly think anyone would truly try a twinkie diet.
you'll note I said ACTIVE alcoholics I.E. people currently drinking alcohol who are alcoholics, I don't know many of those mediating meetings, I know they are ALL alcoholics, but without having the actual number, I'm gonna guess that 99.9% of the ones that run the meetings aren't currently drinking regularly.
A doctor who smokes is not a relevant comparison, now if you said an ONCOLOGIST who smokes? Yeah, wouldn't put MY faith in him/her, would you? That's a very relevant comparison. I mean do you really think that it's not relevant to practice what you preach? I didn't say the nutrition professor didn't have the knowledge.
you said to lighten up, but in this particular arena, I just won't. If it's tongue in cheek, then it's in bad taste IMHO. These kind of myths run rampant and whether you want to believe it or not people BELIEVE them. The only way to stop them is to refute these types of claims and show the real facts. I say get serious instead of lighten up, this stuff is important, and should not be taken lightly.0 -
there is also a difference in the way the food is broken down and sent through your body. I was watching The Doctors, and they did a test having a group of people eating x amount off calories in nuts and another group eating the same amount of calories in junk food and the ones in the second group gained weight here the first didnt0
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There is a difference. This long, but very interesting video, explains how having the wrong kind of sugar can seriously harm one's health.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
$10 says you'll lose more weight eating bananas than you would ice cream.0 -
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Alcoholics do mediate AA meetings. Just an FYI.
As far as I know, fat has no bearing on knowledge (regarding the overweight nutritionist comment). A doctor who smokes still has some credibility, no? Lighten up, I think his response was meant to be taken tongue in cheek. I hardly think anyone would truly try a twinkie diet.
you'll note I said ACTIVE alcoholics I.E. people currently drinking alcohol who are alcoholics, I don't know many of those mediating meetings, I know they are ALL alcoholics, but without having the actual number, I'm gonna guess that 99.9% of the ones that run the meetings aren't currently drinking regularly.
A doctor who smokes is not a relevant comparison, now if you said an ONCOLOGIST who smokes? Yeah, wouldn't put MY faith in him/her, would you? That's a very relevant comparison. I mean do you really think that it's not relevant to practice what you preach? I didn't say the nutrition professor didn't have the knowledge.
you said to lighten up, but in this particular arena, I just won't. If it's tongue in cheek, then it's in bad taste IMHO. These kind of myths run rampant and whether you want to believe it or not people BELIEVE them. The only way to stop them is to refute these types of claims and show the real facts. I say get serious instead of lighten up, this stuff is important, and should not be taken lightly.
Oncologist, Pulmonologist, Cardiologist... doesn't really matter if they smoked. They still went to 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of med school, x years of residency (depending on focus) and year to year continuing education credentialing. I'd still say their opionion mattered. I don't see a lot of smoking cardiologists recommending to smoke all you want.
If someone truly believes they'll get healthy from eating twinkies and supplements let them have it. Their naivete is their issue, not mine. In fact, taking nutrition and fitness advice from anybody on an (mostly) anonymous message board is a crap shoot. It is up to the individual to do their own research on what's appropriate or not. I've seen some very extreme views on this site (up to outright defiance against the ADA). Some appear to make sense from the get go, but I sure as heck won't follow that advice until I've researched it thoroughly.
Everybody's weight loss is their own journey, and bad taste or not, I viewed the post as tongue in cheek, especially when you note the picture he's chosen as his forum avatar.0 -
BTW, I made the switch to cardiologist from oncologist as your risk of dying of heart disease is much greater than cancer for the average smoker. That is, if you want a more relevant comparison.0
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Alcoholics do mediate AA meetings. Just an FYI.
As far as I know, fat has no bearing on knowledge (regarding the overweight nutritionist comment). A doctor who smokes still has some credibility, no? Lighten up, I think his response was meant to be taken tongue in cheek. I hardly think anyone would truly try a twinkie diet.
you'll note I said ACTIVE alcoholics I.E. people currently drinking alcohol who are alcoholics, I don't know many of those mediating meetings, I know they are ALL alcoholics, but without having the actual number, I'm gonna guess that 99.9% of the ones that run the meetings aren't currently drinking regularly.
A doctor who smokes is not a relevant comparison, now if you said an ONCOLOGIST who smokes? Yeah, wouldn't put MY faith in him/her, would you? That's a very relevant comparison. I mean do you really think that it's not relevant to practice what you preach? I didn't say the nutrition professor didn't have the knowledge.
you said to lighten up, but in this particular arena, I just won't. If it's tongue in cheek, then it's in bad taste IMHO. These kind of myths run rampant and whether you want to believe it or not people BELIEVE them. The only way to stop them is to refute these types of claims and show the real facts. I say get serious instead of lighten up, this stuff is important, and should not be taken lightly.
I couldn’t agree more. I think all professionals should practice what they preach. I wouldn’t trust a doctor that actively engaged in unhealthy practices, like smoking, alcoholism, etc… because it shows poor judgment regardless of their knowledge. If they are willing to exercise poor judgment in their own lives, how do I know they won’t with mine or my families.0
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