starvation mode
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sadly no. 400-500. if that. today im on 380ish.
I am saying this out of sincere worry - 400-500 calories per day is not safe, nor sustainable. Your body needs more fuel than that to function properly. What does MFP say your daily calorie goal should be?
I found this info on Wikipedia:
"Starvation mode is a state in which the body is responding to prolonged periods of low caloric intake levels. During short periods of caloric abstinence, the human body will burn primarily free fatty acids from body fat stores. After prolonged periods of starvation the body has depleted its body fat and begins to burn lean tissue and muscle as a fuel source.[1]
Ordinarily, the body responds to reduced caloric intake by burning fat reserves first, and only consumes muscle and other tissues when those reserves are exhausted.[citation needed] Specifically, the body burns fat after first exhausting the contents of the digestive tract along with glycogen reserves stored in muscle and liver cells.[2] After prolonged periods of starvation, the body will utilize the proteins within muscle tissue as a fuel source.
Starvation ensues when the fat reserves are completely exhausted and protein is the only fuel source available to the body. Thus, after periods of starvation, the loss of body protein affects the function of important organs, and death results, even if there are still fat reserves left unused. (In a leaner person, the fat reserves are depleted earlier, the protein depletion occurs sooner, and therefore death occurs sooner.)"
Take care of yourself
All the best,
mfp says to be eating 1200 calories but i bumped it down to 700 and to be honest i cant remember the last time i hit that goal. My diet is healthy, just low in calories, i eat a load of salad, fruits vegetables.0 -
While i appricate all the things that have been said, iv lost just under two stone doing it this way?
Wouldn't you rather continue to lose weight and actually be healthy at the same time?0 -
sadly no. 400-500. if that. today im on 380ish.
I am saying this out of sincere worry - 400-500 calories per day is not safe, nor sustainable. Your body needs more fuel than that to function properly. What does MFP say your daily calorie goal should be?
I found this info on Wikipedia:
"Starvation mode is a state in which the body is responding to prolonged periods of low caloric intake levels. During short periods of caloric abstinence, the human body will burn primarily free fatty acids from body fat stores. After prolonged periods of starvation the body has depleted its body fat and begins to burn lean tissue and muscle as a fuel source.[1]
Ordinarily, the body responds to reduced caloric intake by burning fat reserves first, and only consumes muscle and other tissues when those reserves are exhausted.[citation needed] Specifically, the body burns fat after first exhausting the contents of the digestive tract along with glycogen reserves stored in muscle and liver cells.[2] After prolonged periods of starvation, the body will utilize the proteins within muscle tissue as a fuel source.
Starvation ensues when the fat reserves are completely exhausted and protein is the only fuel source available to the body. Thus, after periods of starvation, the loss of body protein affects the function of important organs, and death results, even if there are still fat reserves left unused. (In a leaner person, the fat reserves are depleted earlier, the protein depletion occurs sooner, and therefore death occurs sooner.)"
Take care of yourself
All the best,
mfp says to be eating 1200 calories but i bumped it down to 700 and to be honest i cant remember the last time i hit that goal. My diet is healthy, just low in calories, i eat a load of salad, fruits vegetables.
no your diet is NOT healthy.0 -
sadly no. 400-500. if that. today im on 380ish.
I am saying this out of sincere worry - 400-500 calories per day is not safe, nor sustainable. Your body needs more fuel than that to function properly. What does MFP say your daily calorie goal should be?
I found this info on Wikipedia:
"Starvation mode is a state in which the body is responding to prolonged periods of low caloric intake levels. During short periods of caloric abstinence, the human body will burn primarily free fatty acids from body fat stores. After prolonged periods of starvation the body has depleted its body fat and begins to burn lean tissue and muscle as a fuel source.[1]
Ordinarily, the body responds to reduced caloric intake by burning fat reserves first, and only consumes muscle and other tissues when those reserves are exhausted.[citation needed] Specifically, the body burns fat after first exhausting the contents of the digestive tract along with glycogen reserves stored in muscle and liver cells.[2] After prolonged periods of starvation, the body will utilize the proteins within muscle tissue as a fuel source.
Starvation ensues when the fat reserves are completely exhausted and protein is the only fuel source available to the body. Thus, after periods of starvation, the loss of body protein affects the function of important organs, and death results, even if there are still fat reserves left unused. (In a leaner person, the fat reserves are depleted earlier, the protein depletion occurs sooner, and therefore death occurs sooner.)"
Take care of yourself
All the best,
Exactly what I was saying! You will lose weight eating only that much but when the fat runs out your body basically starts to EAT ITSELF!0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy0
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i have to really controll what i eat or i over eat in the excess. eating too few is better than eating 2500 no?
400-500 is not "too few", it's starving yourself. You have gone far beyond controlling what you eat in order to reach a healthy weight. If you feel you have to control yourself this much you need to see a professional who can help you get your eating under control.0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
You dont have to be sickly thin to have an eating disorder.0 -
sadly no. 400-500. if that. today im on 380ish.
I am saying this out of sincere worry - 400-500 calories per day is not safe, nor sustainable. Your body needs more fuel than that to function properly. What does MFP say your daily calorie goal should be?
I found this info on Wikipedia:
"Starvation mode is a state in which the body is responding to prolonged periods of low caloric intake levels. During short periods of caloric abstinence, the human body will burn primarily free fatty acids from body fat stores. After prolonged periods of starvation the body has depleted its body fat and begins to burn lean tissue and muscle as a fuel source.[1]
Ordinarily, the body responds to reduced caloric intake by burning fat reserves first, and only consumes muscle and other tissues when those reserves are exhausted.[citation needed] Specifically, the body burns fat after first exhausting the contents of the digestive tract along with glycogen reserves stored in muscle and liver cells.[2] After prolonged periods of starvation, the body will utilize the proteins within muscle tissue as a fuel source.
Starvation ensues when the fat reserves are completely exhausted and protein is the only fuel source available to the body. Thus, after periods of starvation, the loss of body protein affects the function of important organs, and death results, even if there are still fat reserves left unused. (In a leaner person, the fat reserves are depleted earlier, the protein depletion occurs sooner, and therefore death occurs sooner.)"
Take care of yourself
All the best,
mfp says to be eating 1200 calories but i bumped it down to 700 and to be honest i cant remember the last time i hit that goal. My diet is healthy, just low in calories, i eat a load of salad, fruits vegetables.
You're losing weight now, like you said, but the second you start eating like a normal person again you will gain MORE than you lost. If you intend to continue to starve yourself like this forever, you're probably not going to be around very long. It's not maintainable. Wouldn't you rather lose weight and keep it off? When I was in my senior year of highschool I was eating about 600 calories a day, and I got thin, but I also got really really sick. Don't do that to yourself -- find balance. Work out more. You need to eat to burn fat, which is not what you're doing right now.0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
Anorexia is a mental disorder. Your weight may not be extremely low yet but if you continue on this path it will get there eventually. What you are doing is incredibly unhealthy for your body. You are risking permanent organ damage, even organ failure and death. Is that really a smart way to lose weight?0 -
I don't understand why people want to go into starvation mode to begin with (not saying this is what you are personally wanting to do). I been there, done that in high school and was misserable, passed out a lot, light headed all the time... There is no fuel for the body, no protein for the muscles, no carbs for the brain to function. Your body will, like everything, get use to the low calorie intake and plateau as well. This may be a "quick fix" but not overall or in the long run.
I am done lecturing and for sure there will be numerous opinions posted. I have learned that people will do what they want no matter what is told to them. Personally, talk to a doctor you trust about calories and what is right for you.
Good luck and take care!
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my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
You dont have to be sickly thin to have an eating disorder.
an eating disorder is different than anorexia0 -
Just curious...if it is unhealthy to eat 500 calories per day, because of the starvation mode. Then why do doctors allow their patients to do the HCG diet of 500 calories per day???
The hcg diet is a little different, but it's still not safe. It's based off old research from the 1950s that found that the pregnancy hormone hcg makes the body burn fat at a higher rate if a woman is eating a reduced calorie diet, like when she has morning sickness. It is not uncommon for women to lose weight consistently for the first half a pregnancy. But, using this hormone for weight loss isn't necessarily healthy as there are other hormone interactions at play during pregnancy. It is also extremely difficult to get the proper nutrition on a 500 calorie diet regardless of how many calories the body is actually using from burning fat.0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
Your current weight might be healthy, but the way you have achieved it is most definitely NOT HEALTHY. Please see your doctor and have an honest conversation about your extreme calorie restriction. There are far better and FAR HEALTHIER ways to reach your goals. The path you are currently on will end with you doing a great deal of damage to your body. Please get the help you need before it is too late.0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
You dont have to be sickly thin to have an eating disorder.
an eating disorder is different than anorexia
ANOREXIA IS AN EATING DISORDER!!1 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
You dont have to be sickly thin to have an eating disorder.
an eating disorder is different than anorexia
No, actually it is not different.0 -
I'm no Dr. but I'll share with you my thoughts and reasoning/history. I used to be severely overweight (330-ish lbs) and decided to drop to a pure liquid protein shake diet. I was consuming maybe 400calories a day, however I was doing an insane amount of cardio every day (20+ miles high intensity in-line skating). I did this for a good 6-7 months before I regularly started incorporating food again. I lost around 120lbs in that timeframe and had all the energy in the world.
Was it healthy? Hell no. I lost a significant amount of muscle mass too from where I could press 350 lbs down to struggling to put up 150. It was however a very rapid way to lose weight. The biggest downfall besides the loss of muscle mass was that I trained my body to function in those circumstances. When I could no longer resist the urge to eat or didn't have the time to keep up the skating, I gained everything back. It was so mentally stressful to me that it was happening that I actually became bullemic in an attempt to satisfy my cravings while not gaining the weight.
My thoughts on it? You can and will lose weight quickly if you cut your calorie intake significantly as long as you force your body to keep burning through exercise. I wouldn't recommend it though because honestly, who's going to do that the rest of their life? At some point you'll want to fall into some level of normalcy and your body won't be ready for it. starvation diets are extremely hard on a person physically and mentally and you won't be able to do it long term. Do it right the first time around and just mold your everyday life into something you can carry out long term (ie. healthy food intake, exercise schedule, etc) You won't drop the weight as fast, but you'll keep it off longer and not be miserable in the process.0 -
The most common eating disorders are anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa (usually called simply "anorexia" and "bulimia"). But other food-related disorders, like binge eating, body image disorders, and food phobias, are becoming more and more common.
Anorexia
People with anorexia have a real fear of weight gain and a distorted view of their body size and shape. As a result, they can't maintain a normal body weight. Many teens with anorexia restrict their food intake by dieting, fasting, or excessive exercise. They hardly eat at all — and the small amount of food they do eat becomes an obsession.
Others with anorexia may start binge eating and purging — eating a lot of food and then trying to get rid of the calories by forcing themselves to vomit, using laxatives, or exercising excessively, or some combination of these.
Although anorexia and bulimia are very similar, people with anorexia are usually very thin and underweight but those with bulimia may be a normal weight or can be overweight.
http://kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/problems/eat_disorder.html0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
You dont have to be sickly thin to have an eating disorder.
an eating disorder is different than anorexia
ANOREXIA IS AN EATING DISORDER!!
in my opinion, an ED is someone who has disordered relationship with food and anorexica is a result from that.0 -
While i appricate all the things that have been said, iv lost just under two stone doing it this way?
Yes, you will loose weight this way, at first, like any change to the body...then...as others stated...you will damage your body, internally. Just because you cannot see it doesnt mean damage is taking place. You are young (take it from me, I am 32 yrs old and heavy my whole life) until high school and "starved" myself to be thin...I was thin...and sick!0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
You dont have to be sickly thin to have an eating disorder.
an eating disorder is different than anorexia
ANOREXIA IS AN EATING DISORDER!!
in my opinion, an ED is someone who has disordered relationship with food and anorexica is a result from that.
in my opinion eating 300 calories a day is a distorted relationship with food.0 -
Starvation mode is real, do some research everybody's body is different. I do agree with most all post I see you are seriously eating too few calories... I understand the desire to eat so low as I did the same thing because i seriously freaked out and wanted to loose weight fast. I thought by eating low cal's I would drop the pounds but as you can see it didn't work and it is very very dangerous for your body, and extremly hard on your heart.. Losing weight for me was a mind set to just trying to be healty... I am doing 1200 calories a day, I track my food with my food diary and I have lost 18 pounds and never felt better... I eat well balanced meals and snacks...though I have a sweet tooth and if I work it out in my daily cal's I have had no problems satisfying my tummy.. Geeze girl don't you get hungry...Hang in there and do some research and some of the posts have really good advice from people who are losing weight healthy...take care of your body, you don't want to do damage that can't be fixed...0
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I'm no Dr. but I'll share with you my thoughts and reasoning/history. I used to be severely overweight (330-ish lbs) and decided to drop to a pure liquid protein shake diet. I was consuming maybe 400calories a day, however I was doing an insane amount of cardio every day (20+ miles high intensity in-line skating). I did this for a good 6-7 months before I regularly started incorporating food again. I lost around 120lbs in that timeframe and had all the energy in the world.
Was it healthy? Hell no. I lost a significant amount of muscle mass too from where I could press 350 lbs down to struggling to put up 150. It was however a very rapid way to lose weight. The biggest downfall besides the loss of muscle mass was that I trained my body to function in those circumstances. When I could no longer resist the urge to eat or didn't have the time to keep up the skating, I gained everything back. It was so mentally stressful to me that it was happening that I actually became bullemic in an attempt to satisfy my cravings while not gaining the weight.
My thoughts on it? You can and will lose weight quickly if you cut your calorie intake significantly as long as you force your body to keep burning through exercise. I wouldn't recommend it though because honestly, who's going to do that the rest of their life? At some point you'll want to fall into some level of normalcy and your body won't be ready for it. starvation diets are extremely hard on a person physically and mentally and you won't be able to do it long term. Do it right the first time around and just mold your everyday life into something you can carry out long term (ie. healthy food intake, exercise schedule, etc) You won't drop the weight as fast, but you'll keep it off longer and not be miserable in the process.
Not only does this put you at risk for gaining significant amounts of weight once you start eating normally again, it puts at high risk for organ damage, organ failure and death. When you do what you have described your body starts shutting down nonessential functions like menstrual cycles in women, sex drive, any organ function it can, even brain function decreases.0 -
Just curious...if it is unhealthy to eat 500 calories per day, because of the starvation mode. Then why do doctors allow their patients to do the HCG diet of 500 calories per day???
The hcg diet is a little different, but it's still not safe. It's based off old research from the 1950s that found that the pregnancy hormone hcg makes the body burn fat at a higher rate if a woman is eating a reduced calorie diet, like when she has morning sickness. It is not uncommon for women to lose weight consistently for the first half a pregnancy. But, using this hormone for weight loss isn't necessarily healthy as there are other hormone interactions at play during pregnancy. It is also extremely difficult to get the proper nutrition on a 500 calorie diet regardless of how many calories the body is actually using from burning fat.
Okay, that makes sense. I was only curious because I heard about other people doing the HCG thing. I thought that it sounded a little off--especially when some doctors are prescribing it for their patients. Thank you for explaining!!!:happy:0 -
You need to change that NOW! Your body will hold on to the fat that you have to be able to function on those few calories! Not only that, but starvation mode does EXIST!!! You need to eat SMART to lose weight! Some people have the wrong idea about weight loss....extremelly low calorie diet like yours should get the job done, right?... WRONG!!!!!! You can eat 1200 calories and make them SMART calories..... Your body will thank you and you will lose weight in a healthy way. Good luck and I really hope you think about this....we are here to help each other, right??0
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I think the worst thing is, you're NOT going to be able to eat like this forever. When you do eat more cals, you will gain every bit back. Take it from someone who knows! It's the worst!0
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Geeze girl don't you get hungry...Hang in there and do some research and some of the posts have really good advice from people who are losing weight healthy...take care of your body, you don't want to do damage that can't be fixed...
no because i do eat a fair bit of natural foods. Im vegan also which is another reason why its hard for me to get my calories up.0 -
my weight isnt low enough for anarexia guys. Look at my pedometer thing. my weight is healthy
At this time your weight may be healthy, but loosing it without the proper exercise and calorie intake will change this pedometer fast (which I am assuming is what you want) but in an unhealthy way. An eating disorder is anything that deals with control and food. Anorexia, bulimia, gorging, etc. But most people with eating disorders hide it.0 -
Im nearly speechless. However, I will choke out a few words:
This stuff amazes me!! Ok "eating healthy, just a lot of fruits and veggies etc" is NOT eating healthy. You need protein, fiber etc in your diet. My inlaws are vegans and eat 5 million veggies a day and I guarantee you they eat well above 500 calories a day. You are going to KILL yourself eating like this. Its nothing to take lightly. Everyone who has posted here is correct, you need to be eating more. And yes Anorexia IS an eating disorder. Your body and organs need at LEAST 1200 calories each day just to lay in bed and breathe so I hope to God you aren't exercising on only 400-500 calories a day.0 -
Geeze girl don't you get hungry...Hang in there and do some research and some of the posts have really good advice from people who are losing weight healthy...take care of your body, you don't want to do damage that can't be fixed...
no because i do eat a fair bit of natural foods. Im vegan also which is another reason why its hard for me to get my calories up.
Then you certainly aren't doing it right. My inlaws are vegans as Ive said before and they eat beans, pasta, other things to get their calories up or they are azz dragging.0 -
Geeze girl don't you get hungry...Hang in there and do some research and some of the posts have really good advice from people who are losing weight healthy...take care of your body, you don't want to do damage that can't be fixed...
no because i do eat a fair bit of natural foods. Im vegan also which is another reason why its hard for me to get my calories up.
Being vegan has nothing to do with not getting your cals up! Pastas, breads, nuts, lentils, peanut butter, Jams/preserves, tofu, and whole soy milks are all easy ways to tack a few hundred cals onto your diet0
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