Here are the 7 weight loss blocking foods:

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  • Goal_Seeker_1988
    Goal_Seeker_1988 Posts: 1,619 Member
    The only one that I think is dangerous on there is pasteurised milk. Good luck trying to find somehwere that you can legally obtain raw milk!

    There's a local store that I go to that have raw cow's milk and I've drank it and loved it. But there's more calories in it then the alomond milk I drink but raw cows milk is really good. NOM NOM.
  • oddyogi
    oddyogi Posts: 1,816 Member
    Pretty sure all these things are alright as long as they're eaten in moderation. Granted, if your day consists of a bowl of lucky charms, chef boyardee, a frozen meal, and "processed" packaged items for a snack every day, yes you will probably see the scale drop slowly.

    Another item to add to this list is alcohol, in excess of course.
  • Goal_Seeker_1988
    Goal_Seeker_1988 Posts: 1,619 Member
    I eat cereal, milk, canned vegetables (no sodium added), 1-2 diet sodas, and bread every single day. Cut the food out if you want to, but eating it in moderation will not stop you from losing weight.

    You are right, it wont stop you from losing weight considering durin my 75 lb weight loss I ate all of those foods. However, it will keep you from reaching your fitness goals.
  • HappyathomeMN
    HappyathomeMN Posts: 498 Member
    The only one that I think is dangerous on there is pasteurised milk. Good luck trying to find somehwere that you can legally obtain raw milk!

    There's a local store that I go to that have raw cow's milk and I've drank it and loved it. But there's more calories in it then the alomond milk I drink but raw cows milk is really good. NOM NOM.

    Why does it taste better?? Why does it have more calories?

    Higher fat content!

    Raw milk, in a comercial dairy, has to be processed to bring it down to whole milk fat levels. BUT that is why it tastes better. It's a richer, fuller, more satisfying feel and taste when you consume it.

    Fats aren't bad things, you just have to understand them
  • Goal_Seeker_1988
    Goal_Seeker_1988 Posts: 1,619 Member
    Well, I eat pretty much every thing on your list, and I've been losing consistently. I'm interesting in hearing if you have any evidence-based sources for your list, of if you're just spouting your personal opinion.

    I got this from another site and I wanted to share it. It shouldn't have been considered weightloss blocking foods however, processed foods and cereals and canned foods and all that aren't good for you and that's a fact. As for the cows milk it's all over the internet, to each their own. But I personally just wanted to share this bc it's basically pointin out something ppl already know and that it just stick to a clean diet. Which is not easy by all means. The two things I am guilty of which are holdin me back from reaching my fitness goals are the canned foods and the processed foods. I limit my bread to only a couple of times per week. But I thought this was a great overall post and wanted to share it. Sorry, I don't have any evidence-based sources. I am not a doctor nor am I a scientist. LOL but I do feel that a lil info can maybe help others.
  • smersh
    smersh Posts: 36
    You know... if you're existing entirely on these things, what you say is accurate. That being said, you're making some sweeping generalizations with little evidence to back them up.

    1. Cereal - Many cereals are loaded with sugar and are not great for you, and if you don't measure your portions you won't realize just how small a serving is. Oatmeal is better for you, but having a bowl of cereal for breakfast everyday WILL NOT block weight loss all by itself. Plain Cheerios are much better for you than Cap'n Crunch.

    2. Canned foods - There's no deception. Canned goods say precisely what they contain on the packaging. Many canned foods add salt in the canning process, this is true, but there are low or no sodium added versions of many (they are a little more expensive.)

    3. Processed foods - Read the packaging and know what you're putting into your body. There are healthier choices that can be made here. If you're just grabbing a package off the shelf because it looks good, there is a good chance you're making a poor choice; that does not mean that all processed foods are poor choices.

    4. Pasteurized milk - I like the bacteria in my milk dead, thanks. I'll get my iodine elsewhere.

    5. Fruit juices and sodas - LOOK AT THE INGREDIENTS. Natural fruit juices that are made from fruit and water are not bad choices when used in moderation. Of course, it's foolish to drink a large proportion of your calories, but that's not a problem inherent to juice.

    6. Frozen meals - Look at the packaging. It takes some hunting, but it's possible to find frozen meals with under 400mg of sodium.

    7. Bread - Bread has more calories and more fat than many people think, but bread and grains are not bad for you.

    There's a lot of poor information here - it's not these foods that are blocking your weight loss. It's a matter of being a smart consumer, of reading the packaging and knowing what you're putting into your body, and of putting in a little time researching to find the better options.

    And remember, while fresher foods are preferable, canned vegetables are better than no vegetables for your dinner.
  • tcsteeves
    tcsteeves Posts: 59
    1) Cereal

    I am so sorry to be the one and burst the bubble, but cereal is deceiving too many people. While there are several types of cereals and nutritional values for each, the majority of them are fairly high in sugars and sodium.


    I agree that there are so many cereals out there that are not good for you, but all the cereals in my house that I eat are no high fructose corn syrup and not too bad on sugar. As for the Sodium I'm not sure what your body is supposed to be having. Cheerios, Honey Nut Cheerios, and Kashi Berry Blossoms is what I have in my house. Cheerios and Kashi are only 100 cal and I have that with organic reduced fat milk. Honey Nut Cheerios is 110 cal. The sugar ranges from 1gram to 9 grams. Your body has to have some sugar and I think these cereals are fine.

    As for bread, I had a weakness for that, but I do much better now. I get Nature's Pride 100% Whole Wheat which has 22 grams of Whole Grains. There is no high fructose corn syrup.
  • amarie35
    amarie35 Posts: 333 Member
    Thanks for the post. I avoid everything on the list except bread & cereal. But, I eat the 100% Whole Wheat bread & the cereal I eat has little to NO sodium & has 8 mg or less of sugar. For instance, the Kashi Go Lean cereal is one of my favorites & it has 10 grams of fiber, 13 grams of protein, 8 grams of whole grains, 85 mg of sodum, 480 mg of potassium, & only 6 grams of sugar, So while some cereals should definately be avoided, there are some that are actually really good for you. As for as the milk goes, I'm sticking to my good ole pasteruized store bought SKIM milk. :smile:
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    I think this will be another UK/US distinction - it is illegal to sell unpastuerised milk here in the UK, and just about impossible to find.

    Besides, OK some of the nutirents may be lost in the process, but that doesn't make pastuerised milk a bad food, or one likely to inhibit weight loss, surely?

    no it's not. From the Food Standards Agency:

    "1. The current controls on the sale of raw cows' drinking milk in hygiene and food labelling regulations are:

    a) the milk may only be sold direct to consumers by registered milk production holdings (at the farm gate or in a farmhouse catering operation) or through milk roundsmen. Sales through other outlets have been banned since 1985 (although sales by the farmer at farmers markets are allowed);

    b) the supplying animals must be from a herd that is officially tuberculosis free, and either brucellosis free or officially brucellosis free;

    c) the production holding, milking premises and dairy, must comply with hygiene rules;

    d) the milk must bear the appropriate health warning;

    e) compliance with a) to d) above is monitored by inspections twice a year; and

    f) the milk is sampled and tested quarterly under the control of Animal Health Dairy Hygiene to monitor compliance with standards for total bacterial count and coliforms.

    2. The sale of raw drinking milk from sheep, goats or buffaloes:

    a) is not subject to the restriction at 1a) above;

    b) raw drinking milk from buffaloes has to comply with the herd status requirement at 1b) above;

    c) raw drinking milk from sheep and goats must come from animals belonging to a production holding that is either officially brucellosis free or brucellosis free;

    d) raw drinking milk from these 3 species must comply with dairy hygiene rules and microbiological standards;

    e) In England, raw drinking milk from sheep and goats, but not buffaloes, has to carry the health warning. In Wales, raw milk from all three species has to carry the appropriate health warning; and

    f) compliance with these requirements is monitored at inspections programmed on a risk basis.

    3. The sale of raw cream:

    a) is not subject to the restrictions at 1a) and d) above;

    b) must comply with all the requirements that apply to milk based products under dairy hygiene rules and microbiological standards;

    c) must be made with milk meeting the herd status criteria described in paragraphs 1b) and 2b) and c) above;

    d) raw cream is not required to carry the health warning; and

    e) compliance with these requirements is, again, monitored at inspections programmed on risk.
    "

    I have some raw milk in my fridge, have just made yoghurt from it and am planning to make cheese. Raw milk is often easier to process for those who are have difficulty digesting milk due to the changes milk goes through when heating - ie. more of the nutrients can be absorbed better by the body. The raw milk I have is from Jersey cows, and oddly, tastes less fatty than pasteurised Jersey milk - which I would baulk at drinking.
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    as for bread - I have a suspicion that good old-fashioned homemade bread or that made by an artisan baker is far better for your than shop-bought stuff and better nutritionally. Sourdough doubly so.
  • MyNameIsNotBob
    MyNameIsNotBob Posts: 565 Member
    Well, I eat pretty much every thing on your list, and I've been losing consistently. I'm interesting in hearing if you have any evidence-based sources for your list, of if you're just spouting your personal opinion.

    I got this from another site and I wanted to share it. It shouldn't have been considered weightloss blocking foods however, processed foods and cereals and canned foods and all that aren't good for you and that's a fact. As for the cows milk it's all over the internet, to each their own. But I personally just wanted to share this bc it's basically pointin out something ppl already know and that it just stick to a clean diet. Which is not easy by all means. The two things I am guilty of which are holdin me back from reaching my fitness goals are the canned foods and the processed foods. I limit my bread to only a couple of times per week. But I thought this was a great overall post and wanted to share it. Sorry, I don't have any evidence-based sources. I am not a doctor nor am I a scientist. LOL but I do feel that a lil info can maybe help others.

    It would be great if you would share your source / give some attribution. Because spreading FALSE information without scientific evidence can most certainly HURT people.
  • jend114
    jend114 Posts: 1,058 Member
    great post!
  • SoUnaware
    SoUnaware Posts: 85 Member
    Fantastic list! Also, makes me feel damned good because I do not eat any of these!

    7) Bread

    While I recommend eating bread as a part of adding variety to your diet, consuming it in excess can be dangerous! In addition, some breads are high in corn syrup and trans fatty acids. Thus, if you choose to eat some breads, make sure that they are all natural and limit your consumption to 2-3 slices at a time.

    I eat whole/multi-grain breads that say "healthy" on the label because you have to meet specific requirements in order to put "healthy" on your label. What is your opinion on this?
  • sociable15
    sociable15 Posts: 98
    While I agree to drinking raw milk from a trusted and known source (Get to you know your farmers!!) it is illegal to sell in some states, even if labelled "not recommended for human consumption". Delaware, for example, it's completely illegal to sell. Trust me, I've been tryin' for years.
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    Fantastic list! Also, makes me feel damned good because I do not eat any of these!

    7) Bread

    While I recommend eating bread as a part of adding variety to your diet, consuming it in excess can be dangerous! In addition, some breads are high in corn syrup and trans fatty acids. Thus, if you choose to eat some breads, make sure that they are all natural and limit your consumption to 2-3 slices at a time.

    I eat whole/multi-grain breads that say "healthy" on the label because you have to meet specific requirements in order to put "healthy" on your label. What is your opinion on this?

    two things I would do here - find out what the requirements are to put the words 'healthy' on the label (would probably surprise you); and look at the ingredients list on the bread. More than flour, yeast and water and you probably want to avoid it. Far better to have bread that doesn't come in a packet with a label to read at all!!!!
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    While I agree to drinking raw milk from a trusted and known source (Get to you know your farmers!!) it is illegal to sell in some states, even if labelled "not recommended for human consumption". Delaware, for example, it's completely illegal to sell. Trust me, I've been tryin' for years.

    since hunting for raw milk here in the UK I have been feeling very sorry for people in the US - the law also extends to unpasteurised cheese I believe. Boy are you missing out on some good stuff!!!
  • Ahzuri
    Ahzuri Posts: 272 Member
    I would never drink unpasturized milk. I just don't think it is safe enough. But I agree with the other suggestions

    I just drink Almond or Soy milk (Almond taste better) because cow milk tastes disgusting to me after not being able to drink it for about a year.
  • pittielover23
    pittielover23 Posts: 268
    While I think this is a good "ideal" list, you can still lose weight if you eat some of the things on there. I love my Kashi cereal, and usually have a bowl a week with pasturized milk ;) I also don't mind frozen meals for lunch at work, especially since I am super super busy working full time and going to school full time. I cook my dinners fresh, but frozen is where its at for lunch. And I have lost plenty of weight that way. And bread, well, I see nothing wrong with eating my whole grain bread. Love it :)

    I do think that your list is certainly a good ideal for the most part, but I would not say that the foods are "weight loss blocking"
  • MissKim
    MissKim Posts: 2,853 Member
    omg people, she was just sharing a post, you don't have to agree with it, but give her a break!

    and duh, you can still lose weight eating that stuff, you can lose weight eating twinkies everyday, I think she was more talking about the health risks associated with them then the actual weight loss.
  • pittielover23
    pittielover23 Posts: 268
    omg people, she was just sharing a post, you don't have to agree with it, but give her a break!

    and duh, you can still lose weight eating that stuff, you can lose weight eating twinkies everyday, I think she was more talking about the health risks associated with them then the actual weight loss.
    I think you are being a wee bit sensitive. No one is reeming her, we are just discussing the list. Which I think is the point of the board.

    And weight loss was implied since they were called "weight loss blocking foods"
  • MissKim
    MissKim Posts: 2,853 Member
    Well, I eat pretty much every thing on your list, and I've been losing consistently. I'm interesting in hearing if you have any evidence-based sources for your list, of if you're just spouting your personal opinion.

    I got this from another site and I wanted to share it. It shouldn't have been considered weightloss blocking foods however, processed foods and cereals and canned foods and all that aren't good for you and that's a fact. As for the cows milk it's all over the internet, to each their own. But I personally just wanted to share this bc it's basically pointin out something ppl already know and that it just stick to a clean diet. Which is not easy by all means. The two things I am guilty of which are holdin me back from reaching my fitness goals are the canned foods and the processed foods. I limit my bread to only a couple of times per week. But I thought this was a great overall post and wanted to share it. Sorry, I don't have any evidence-based sources. I am not a doctor nor am I a scientist. LOL but I do feel that a lil info can maybe help others.

    It would be great if you would share your source / give some attribution. Because spreading FALSE information without scientific evidence can most certainly HURT people.

    Well, then you better get busy correcting everyone on here then, b/c this is a community driven forum! There are tons of different views and opinions being thrown around on a daily basis. and people are not providing scientific evidence..b/c we all know that scientists know everything!! and we should trust everything science says, b/c that never changes, right. gah, people, just read it, either agree or disagree, use some common sense.
  • l3ugjuice
    l3ugjuice Posts: 233
    Good guidelines, but just to throw this out there:

    I've lost 55 lbs in 16 weeks eating pretty much everything on your list, in moderation. I do try to keep the sodium & sugar at reasonable levels, and the majority of my diet is raw fresh veggies and lean proteins (mostly fish and turkey, but I eat some beef every now and again). So I think there is alot of truth in what you are saying, but I dont think it's always necessary to have such a restrictive diet as to not include those things at all. For me, one of the big problems with dieting is just a lack of time....sometimes, frequently in fact, it's either something pre-packaged, or nothing.

    All things being equal (meaning, specific health and/or dietary needs of an individual), I've found that the main thing for me is to just watch calories in and calories out, regardless of where they come from (fat, alcohol, protein, carbs). I basically just count those and let everything else fall where it may.
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    To clarify the UK position - it's illegal to distribute in Scotland, and the highly inspected production is only carried out by around 200 farms, all in England, and cannot be distributed through retail networks. So, as I say. Not exactly the easiest thing in this part of the world (Northern Ireland) to obtain. I'm sure it tastes great, but I refuse to accept that pasteurised milk is somehow hindering my weight loss, or depriving me of essential vitamins I can't get elsewhere.
  • mjohnson2
    mjohnson2 Posts: 2
    I agree and dis-agree on the frozen foods. I am on a salt restricted diet and I need to lose weight. I wanted to try NutriSystem but wanted to taste it first without buying it. I started with the Lea Cuisine and several others and noticed they were almost as high as the other frozen meals but the calories were not that different 100-150 more for the regular meals. I tried them since Dec. 2010 and found the ones I liked and checked the sodium content and I have lost 52 since Dec. and 33 since I started using the fitness pal app. You have to read the labels. I hope this helps.
  • kdougl01
    kdougl01 Posts: 3 Member
    I agree the people on this forum are a little mean to say the least. I have never posted before and I dare say will never post again due to some really critical people. The list she came up with is the exact same list my licensed dietician gave me. But her list came with the " this list does not mean you cannot eat these foods just eat smarter, the healthier version of each". Stop being mean and critical this world is messed up enough, I want to lose weight and be healthy not read someone nit picking about a list.
  • peacehawk
    peacehawk Posts: 421 Member
    Unpasturized milk is very hard to find in the US. Pasturization is required, but some small dairies have ways to get around that. The reason why pasturization is necessary doesn't really have much to do with the milk itsself, it has to do with the living conditions of the animals and how the milk is stored, etc. Most of the milk we buy commercially comes from filthy, unnatural conditions. The cows are fed corn, antibiotics and hormones. They have no pasture area and spend much of their day in very close quarters with no excercise and standing in their own feces. Many small, independent farmers, however, allow their cattle to eat pasture grass, walk around outside and have a more instinctual herd life. Because they get to be outside in the fresh air, they harbor fewer contaminents and their bodies own immune system is not comprimised. Pasturization of milk from these cows is not as important. Plus, without pasturization, the natural enzymes in this milk helps to transform the way your body breaks down the sugars and fats, to be healthier. Milk and meat from cattle raised this way also has higher amounts of omega 3 fatty acids, the good fatsthat we are supposed to ingest. I don't havelinks to particular studies, but my doctor who is an environmental allergist has had this discussion with me. NOT ALL MILK IS CREATED EQUAAL. It is unsafe farming practices that has created the need for pasturization. Not the milk itself.
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    I do apologise if I came across as being unduly harsh: most of the list I think is sound advice. But I was having this discussion about milk the other day with a German, where they DO have access to the raw stuff, and she wondered if that had been the cause of her TB a few years ago.

    So raw milk may well have health benefits, but it also comes with massive warnings in countries right across the world, and I feel it's totally impractical to recommend something which is going to be unobtainable for many of us....and again, what's so bad about pasteurised milk?
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    To clarify the UK position - it's illegal to distribute in Scotland, and the highly inspected production is only carried out by around 200 farms, all in England, and cannot be distributed through retail networks. So, as I say. Not exactly the easiest thing in this part of the world (Northern Ireland) to obtain. I'm sure it tastes great, but I refuse to accept that pasteurised milk is somehow hindering my weight loss, or depriving me of essential vitamins I can't get elsewhere.

    However you CAN get raw milk delivered, even in Scotland -

    http://www.hookandson.co.uk/HOW TO GET OUR MILK/how to get our milk.html

    unless you live somewhere like Shetlands etc, where you could probably just grab a cow and no one would notice. Not sure about NI. (edit - I found a supplier in Ballymena but not sure if they deliver) And I don't know how they get around the law banning raw milk in Scotland.

    There are arguments for and against the use of raw milk. Interestingly generally the reasons cited against raw milk are that 'the benefits do not outweigh the risks of bacterial infection'. What this says to me is that there ARE benefits to drinking raw milk as opposed to pasteurised. Which are most likely in terms of nutrients and digestive capabilities. Sometimes when we mess with a foodstuff it becomes less edible, and I think this is the case for milk to.

    Each to his own. I am happy to take the risk like many thousands of other people who grew up before pasteurisation.

    I have no idea if pasteurised milk hinders weightloss. To me this list is sensible from a clean eating point of view.
  • pittielover23
    pittielover23 Posts: 268
    Unpasturized milk is very hard to find in the US. Pasturization is required, but some small dairies have ways to get around that. The reason why pasturization is necessary doesn't really have much to do with the milk itsself, it has to do with the living conditions of the animals and how the milk is stored, etc. Most of the milk we buy commercially comes from filthy, unnatural conditions. The cows are fed corn, antibiotics and hormones. They have no pasture area and spend much of their day in very close quarters with no excercise and standing in their own feces. Many small, independent farmers, however, allow their cattle to eat pasture grass, walk around outside and have a more instinctual herd life. Because they get to be outside in the fresh air, they harbor fewer contaminents and their bodies own immune system is not comprimised. Pasturization of milk from these cows is not as important. Plus, without pasturization, the natural enzymes in this milk helps to transform the way your body breaks down the sugars and fats, to be healthier. Milk and meat from cattle raised this way also has higher amounts of omega 3 fatty acids, the good fatsthat we are supposed to ingest. I don't havelinks to particular studies, but my doctor who is an environmental allergist has had this discussion with me. NOT ALL MILK IS CREATED EQUAAL. It is unsafe farming practices that has created the need for pasturization. Not the milk itself.
    While some of that is true, pasturization has been around a lot longer than commercial farming practices have. It was originally created to extend the shelf life of milk. Even cows raised on the happiest farm on earth can have micro-bacteria and organisms that are not beneficial to people.

    It is fine that some people choice to drink raw milk, not saying that is an issue for them. But as disguisting as our farming practices are (and trust, I am very very against our commercial farming practices), they are not the sole reason for this process.
  • tmoran8403
    tmoran8403 Posts: 6
    Unpasteurized milk is safe, however not legal in the US.
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