What is this mysterious HFCS?

JennyGetsFit

It was reported last week that within 40 years they believe that every person in our society will be at least 40 lbs overweight. The generation of children growing up right now are the FIRST ever generation of children NOT expected to out live their parents. As parents it is our responsibility to educate our children in a healthy way about the fuel needed for our body.

Just my opinion

:noway: children NOT expected to out live their parents...I heard about this in a adderss from our School Superintendant on Monday...I have to say I have been checking out the kids (I work at a high schoool), and they ARE BIG. I could not believe my eyes!

They must be going home to play video games...anybody remember when parents turned off the TV and said "go outside?" In fact, they didn't even have to tell us, we wanted to play outside, ride bikes, baseball, ect...

I was a Camp Leader at Y Camp a few years ago, and I will never forget my 7/8th grade campers. They didn't want to go on the bike ride much or even walk across camp to archery. The following year I had 9/10th graders, and they complained about hiking and walking across camp to the mess hall! Could not even be bothered!

What happened?

I am glad I don't work with kids.
I would be very hard for me NOT to tell them that they need to get moving and eating less junk!
It is heartbreaking!

But while talking to my friends who want (supposedly) to lose weight I see how little they understand about their diet and how little they are ready to sucrifice to achieve their goals, I am not surprised that kids turn out that way. Where would they learn good habits?

cquick

Powercook: great word, I'm adding it to my vocab!

BTW, I hugs back! And we can squeeze the whatever HFCS remains in our bodies out out out!

Here's to clean living, and great support. We're all in this together! Cheers!:drinker: :drinker: :drinker:

jessmomof3

Awesome! I'm glad that I'm not the only one out there that is into clean eating. I have 3 kids and they love to play outside. They are doing a kids triathlon this weekend and we were biking/ running together last night. I think a lot of parents need to get out there and play w/ their kids! (sorry, another pet peeve of mine!) Set a good example!

Jess

pmkelly409

Nobody mentioned this, but there is a magazine called Clean Eating. It has been in posts before. Anyone looking to make the change to a cleaner way of eating should check this magazine out - it is great.

https://www.kable.com/pub/KLNE/suball.asp

jules1984

I just saw two horrible commercials advocating the use of HFCS!!! Look at this BS website!

www.sweetsurprise.com

Do not get sucked into these commercials. Read this post and do your own research as well!!

BUMP!

clairegl

Does evaporated cane juice fall into this category?

may_marie

hey .. you have an other clean eating affectionado here :happy:
on top of being vegetarian, and trying to eat as much of organic as posible,

sadly the organic selection is going down lately at my local shop. i have a feel that with the credit crunch in the uk, people cant afford it as much anymore so the stores font hold organics as much.

i love cooking from scratch, i try as much as possible but i do use organic pasta sauce (my favorite is seeds of change)

i've been clean eating for more then 2 years now, couple months ago i had something ressembling a slushi, it was electric blue, i though it tasted toxic, same with diet sodas,,,artificial sweetners just taste fake to me .. yuk...

i totaly agree with the situation of this society kid's, sadly its no different here in the uk,, its horrible. when i was a kid,, my mum would kick me up the backside out the door if she cough me watching telly while it was still daylight. my niece are the best exemple,,, the youngest wont eat anything that doesnt come out a brighty colored package, i suggested to her mom to just take all the crap away for a while and the kid will eat, she just knows that she will get what she wants, ive seen her being served a chocolate bar (a whole one, at 3yo) in a plate at the dinner table......... yet shes skinny as anything, you see her ribs poking though, her hair is brittle and shes got dark circle around her eyes,,, i think shes missing out on important nutrition. i just dunno what to do, it almost feels like a case of child abuse

ill check taht clean eating magazin,, that sounds interesting
nice to see im not alone out there !
may

JennyGetsFit

I just saw two horrible commercials advocating the use of HFCS!!! Look at this BS website!

www.sweetsurprise.com

Do not get sucked into these commercials. Read this post and do your own research as well!!

BUMP!

Jules, thank for the link and for the bump!

JennyGetsFit

Hey, there, May Marie!
Great to hear that there are health conscious people across the "pond" .
My son spend 2 semesters in UK last year - got sick and tired of bangers and mash.

It is disheartening what you told us about your niece. I would be very frustrated and worried too. My cousin does not realize that first thing she says after hello on the phone is "I am exhausted." When I ask her what she ate today - it's all empty calories. Never enough protein. I am ready to scream!!! I've been on her case for years. I tell her: you need to figure it out why. She goes to the doctor, does extensive blood work, finds minor problems with this or that , stops worrying, still does nothing about nutrition or exercise...After a while I hear again "I am exhausted" It is insane! Aaaaaahhhhhh!

Food is fuel! Put junk into the furnace -the fire is barely there. Put good stuff - you get fire!
We are what we eat.
Sorry about the rant :embarassed:

JennyGetsFit

for my friend who asked me today...ahm...you know who you are

christelpistol

i havent really had a soda in YEARS, but if i do, i try to get the izzes, jones, switch, dry soda, or the mexican sodas that have the cane sugar instead of HFCS.

http://www.izze.com/#products
http://www.jonessoda.com/files/products-glass.php
http://www.switchbev.com/
http://www.drysoda.com/
http://www.sidralmundet.com/jarritos.sstg

Fitness_Chick

I try to avoid HFCS at all costs. It's in about everything processed, I eat a pretty clean diet so that makes it easier.

Another good source is the Abs Diet Book, there's a good chapter on HFCS and trans fats. 2 terrible things that seem to be in abundance in a lot of food nowadays.

Jess

How very TRUE!!:drinker: Eating as close to nature as possible certainly helps eliminate the frustration of even dealing with all that 'junk'........

As Jess so wisely says Clean eating is a great way to steer clear of it as well.:drinker: :drinker:

Fitness_Chick

for my friend who asked me today...ahm...you know who you are

Well I'm your new bud:flowerforyou: and I didn't ask....so that narrows it down some!:laugh: Seriously thought...I recall reading this when it passed through the threads last month or so....good info you've shared....Thanks Jenny:drinker:

Always always good to see as a reminder!:huh: :drinker:

Fitness_Chick

thanks, jules!
sad, but true - just because it is on the shelves in the supermarket, doesn't mean it is good :grumble:
....

So So True!!!:grumble: :huh:

Fitness_Chick

i havent really had a soda in YEARS, but if i do, i try to get the izzes, jones, switch, dry soda, or the mexican sodas that have the cane sugar instead of HFCS.

http://www.izze.com/#products
http://www.jonessoda.com/files/products-glass.php
http://www.switchbev.com/
http://www.drysoda.com/
http://www.sidralmundet.com/jarritos.sstg

I love my water....bet I never mentioned THAT before!:smooched:

jessmomof3

How very TRUE!!:drinker: Eating as close to nature as possible certainly helps eliminate the frustration of even dealing with all that 'junk'........

As Jess so wisely says Clean eating is a great way to steer clear of it as well.:drinker: :drinker:

Oh, wow! I'm wise!! :blushing: Thanks, girl!!

Jess

JennyGetsFit

for my friend who asked me today...ahm...you know who you are

Well I'm your new bud:flowerforyou: and I didn't ask....so that narrows it down some!:laugh:

You are my new bud!!!

JennyGetsFit

How very TRUE!!:drinker: Eating as close to nature as possible certainly helps eliminate the frustration of even dealing with all that 'junk'........

As Jess so wisely says Clean eating is a great way to steer clear of it as well.:drinker: :drinker:

Oh, wow! I'm wise!! :blushing: Thanks, girl!!

Jess

the truth come out ...at last

psyknife

Have you seen the movie Wall-E? What you just said about folks being overweight made me think of that movie....

OMG, I loved that movie... and it honestly made a very strong (yet mostly likely overlooked) statement about the direction humans are heading.

psyknife

PS - another magazine recommendation - Body + Soul Magazine
LOVE IT!

christelpistol

i havent really had a soda in YEARS, but if i do, i try to get the izzes, jones, switch, dry soda, or the mexican sodas that have the cane sugar instead of HFCS.

http://www.izze.com/#products
http://www.jonessoda.com/files/products-glass.php
http://www.switchbev.com/
http://www.drysoda.com/
http://www.sidralmundet.com/jarritos.sstg

I love my water....bet I never mentioned THAT before!:smooched:

me too.

~glub glub~

jessmomof3

Have you seen the movie Wall-E? What you just said about folks being overweight made me think of that movie....

OMG, I loved that movie... and it honestly made a very strong (yet mostly likely overlooked) statement about the direction humans are heading.

ITA!! My kiddos were totally appalled seeing all of the lazy people in that movie. It did make an impression on us!!

Jess

JennyGetsFit

Have you seen the movie Wall-E? What you just said about folks being overweight made me think of that movie....

OMG, I loved that movie... and it honestly made a very strong (yet mostly likely overlooked) statement about the direction humans are heading.

ITA!! My kiddos were totally appalled seeing all of the lazy people in that movie. It did make an impression on us!!

Jess

I wonder if evrybody got the same impression, or just us "fitness freaks"

if yes, that would be hopeful!

EvilPIB

More Info on sugar from the following website "lowcarbdiets.com"

Foods Forbidden on the Sugar Busters Diet
White bread (includes any bread with white flour in it)
Pasta, unless whole grain
White rice
White flour, and products made with it such as cake, cookies, crackers, pretzels, doughnuts, bagels, and muffins
Potatoes and potato chips :explode:
Corn and corn chips :sad: good bye SunChips

Sugar Has Many Disguises :mad:
Careful reading of labels is necessary to know how much added sugar you are getting. Sugar masquerades as apparently more “healthy” ingredients, such as honey, rice syrup, or even “organic dehydrated cane juice”. Sometimes fruit juice concentrates will be used, which sound wholesome, but usually the juices chosen, such as white grape, apple, and pear juices, are among the least nutritious of the juices. By the time they are “concentrated”, very little remains but the sugar.

Here is a list of some of the possible code words for “sugar” which may appear on a label. Hint: the words “syrup”, “sweetener”, and anything ending in “ose” can usually be assumed to be “sugar”. If the label says “no added sugars”, it should not contain any of the following, although the food could contain naturally-occurring sugars (such as lactose in milk).
Corn sweetener :mad:
Corn syrup, or corn syrup solids :mad:
Dehydrated Cane Juice
Dextrin
Dextrose
Fructose
Fruit juice concentrate
Glucose
High-fructose corn syrup :mad:
Honey
Invert sugar
Lactose
Maltodextrin
Malt syrup
Maltose
Maple syrup
Molasses
Raw sugar
Rice Syrup
Saccharose
Sorghum or sorghum syrup :huh:
Sucrose
Syrup
Treacle :huh:
Turbinado Sugar :huh:
Xylose :huh:
Remember, your body doesn't care what the label says, it's all just "sugar"! :grumble:

EvilPIB

From the same website

A Word About Sugar Alcohols: A lot of "Sugar Free" foods have ingredients called sugar alcohols in them such as maltitol and sorbitol. These ingredients can be as bad or worse than sugar.:sad:

What are sugar alcohols?
Sugar alcohols are carbohydrates which are also called "polyols". Part of their chemical structure resembles sugar, and part of it resembles alcohol -- hence the confusing name. Examples of common sugar alcohols are maltitol, sorbitol, isomalt, and xylitol.

Where do sugar alcohols come from?
Sugar alcohols occur naturally in plants. Some of them are extracted from plants (sorbitol from corn syrup and mannitol from seaweed), but they are mostly manufactured from sugars and starches.

Why use sugar alcohols?
Sugar alcohols are like sugar in some ways, but they are not completely absorbed by the body. Because of this, the blood sugar impact of sugar alcohols is less and they provide fewer calories per gram. Additionally, sugar alcohols don't promote tooth decay as sugars do :noway: , so are often used to sweeten chewing gum. One, xylitol, actually inhibits bacterial growth in the mouth.

Can sugar alcohols cause problems?
Though the word "alcohol" is part of their name, they cannot get you drunk. But because they are not completely absorbed, they can ferment in the intestines and cause bloating, gas, or diarrhea :sick: . Careful experimentation is advised.

How are sugar alcohols labeled?
The names of the individual sugar alcohols will be on the ingredient list of any product that contains them. They will be included in the amount of carbohydrate on the label, either in the total or on a separate line for sugar alcohols. If the product is labeled “sugar-free” or "no added sugar," the manufacturer must show the sugar alcohol count separately.

How do sugar alcohols compare to other carbohydrates?
Though sugar alcohols have fewer calories than sugar, most of them aren't as sweet, so more must be used to get the same sweetening effect.

JennyGetsFit

EvilPIB - love you new avatar! Cute and funny!
Thank you for more info !
My, a lot to absorb and more to beware!

Thanks!

EvilPIB

EvilPIB - love you new avatar! Cute and funny!
Thank you for more info !
My, a lot to absorb and more to beware!

Thanks!

Your Welcome, I came across the info when I was looking up "Sugar". Glad you like the new look, I felt it was suitable for this site.:laugh:

Wynnie

I have long been aware of the menace that HFCS is. But I feel a little pessimistic about the US doing anything to change it. We talk about "freedom from independance on foreign oil", but most people in influential positions are profiting in some way from the oil and refining industry, so it's all talk. Same with HFCS. Government leaders and lobbyists are profiting from the HFCS industry, so what are the chances that we'll stop using it just because it's unhealthy? Wow - I'm sounding bleak - didn't really mean to do that. I've seen those commercials that were mentioned about how wonderful HFCS is and that it's "getting an unfair bad reputation", so it got me thinking of this.

Thanks for a very useful and interesting thread!

songbyrdsweet

You know, it's funny...it sounds like 'they' are trying to say they know what promotes feelings of hunger based on these studies concerning HFCS.

It's odd because NO ONE knows what promotes feelings of hunger. It's one of the many things we haven't figured out about the human body yet. So saying HFCS doesn't stop you from feeling hunger is like saying the big boom started the universe. It's plausible, but we really have no idea.

Yes, fructose is metabolized differently from sucrose. They're two entirely different molecules. It's also metabolized differently from lactose, maltose, amino acids, lipids, etc.... That doesn't make it 'more' or 'less' healthy. It's just different, and enters glycolysis at a different stage from glucose. Or it might be phosphorylated to glucose. Guess what? No one knows.

It's all just sugar. If you're drinking soda and eating cookies and failing to count calories, it doesn't matter whether they're sweetened with HFCS, sucrose, fructose, whatever. You're going to gain fat if you overeat. You're not going to gain fat if you don't overeat. The great thing about humans that separates us from lab rats is our high level of cognition and the ability to count calories.