Am I going to be on a "diet" for the rest of my life?
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Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you obviously have ZERO idea about nutrition and how to eat healthy.
Carbs =/= bad
Fat =/= bad
Why can't you have a salad? No protein? Who the hell is putting these ideas into your head? Go have a chicken breast with the salad, problem solved.
Don't take this the wrong way, but here is some reality:
I eat cheese, eggs, chicken, steaks, veggies, ice cream, pop tarts, reeces puff cereal, milk, bacon, oatmeal.
It sounds like you're just trying to make excuses for not wanting to eat healthy. I come home after lifting sometimes barely able to walk up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment, and when I get up there my legs are shaking. I'm exhausted as hell and I still throw back some food and pop some chicken in the oven for 35minutes.
If you don't want to eat healthy, don't. It's too easy. But if you want to be healthy, go learn yourself some nutrition. If you're not eating breakfast, why not? Get up earlier and eat it. If you are tired, go to bed earlier.0 -
BTW my food diary is public. I don't usually enter my food on the weekends, though. I don't have a problem with portion control at all. I have a problem with knowing what to eat, buying and preparing it, then eating it.0
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I think you are over thinking. Deep breaths
I am going to friend request you and you can look at my diary for the last couple days. I do eat some of that crap, and I know it is not the BEST for me, but it is also what works for me at this point in my life. I eat frozen meals. I eat carrots. I cook quick and easy dinners. In a time crunch? Subway is an awesome "fast food" if you are in a crunch.
I work full time and go to school full time, so I often choose the easy way. And you know what? I dont care It is working for me right now, and that is all that matters.
Thanks, I looked at your diary. The thing is I need at least 100 g of protein in less than 1600 calories. It is virtually impossible - in fact I've never done it. I'm usually way low on protein and doing this bodybuilding workout, I am probably losing muscle and gaining fat in the process.0 -
Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you obviously have ZERO idea about nutrition and how to eat healthy.0 -
Once i achieve my goal weight i will eat normally again. I'm on a restricted calorie diet 1700-1800 where as my maintenance calories is about 2700 to maintain. We all gained weight not overnight but over years. We ate too much. We don't need 1/2lb hamburgers or large fries from fast food places. It's really about what you eat more so then how much. A slice of pizza is about 500 calories. I used to eat 2-4 or more. Now i have one slice and a salad. I can have anything i want to eat and do. Just achieve your weight goals by caloric restriction then eat sensibly. If you don't know what sensible is nobody can help you. I'm committed to having a fit body and not being part of the obese world of people we live among now who think being fat is ok. Good Luck.0
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Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you obviously have ZERO idea about nutrition and how to eat healthy.
Carbs =/= bad
Fat =/= bad
Why can't you have a salad? No protein? Who the hell is putting these ideas into your head? Go have a chicken breast with the salad, problem solved.
Don't take this the wrong way, but here is some reality:
I eat cheese, eggs, chicken, steaks, veggies, ice cream, pop tarts, reeces puff cereal, milk, bacon, oatmeal.
I come home after lifting sometimes barely able to walk up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment, and when I get up there my legs are shaking. I'm exhausted as hell and I still throw back some food and pop some chicken in the oven for 35minutes.
If you don't want to eat healthy, don't. It's too easy. But if you want to be healthy, go learn yourself some nutrition. If you're not eating breakfast, why not? Get up earlier and eat it. If you are tired, go to bed earlier.0 -
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Sorry, I am being a postwhore on this, but look at www.skinnytaste.com, it has some great SUPER yummy recipies that are lighter versions of things that I love.
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That is awesome!! i am addicted to www.hungry-girl.com, but this just has WAY more! Thanks so much!!0 -
www.bodybuilding.com
go to the forums, go to nutrition section. Read stickies, read threads, read advanced nutrition for more advanced ways.0 -
The thing is I need at least 100 g of protein in less than 1600 calories.
Hard boiled eggs! About 70 calories and 6 grams of protein. Great way to start the day or to have right after a workout as your body needs protein when you are done pushing it.
Also, if/when you get your diet (and by diet I don't mean dieting but your daily food intake) figured out you are still having problems, go to your doc and have your thyroid checked out. Maybe you have an inbalance in there somewhere you are unaware of.
Consult with a nutritionist as well. They can help point you in the direction you need to go food wise as well. Most grocery stores have one on site now so you could call your local store, see if they have one, and see if you can set up an appt with them. When grocery shopping, shop on the outside of the store. There is where all the fresh produce, meets, et cetera are located. All the boxed and canned goods high in sodium are in the center.0 -
WARNING: TOUGH LOVE - You have 14 pounds to go....When I had 14 pounds to go [about 30 years ago], I asked the same question...is this FOREVER?! I've been debating that with myself for 30 years and now, instead of 150, I'm 250. Answer: It's a stupid question. Sorry. In case you're still wondering, the answer is a most emphatic "Yes!" Lord knows, you're entitled to moan about it, but make sure you're keeping that 14 pounds off while you're doing it...don't wait 30 years and 100 pounds like I did to finally accept the answer to the question. It sucks. No doubt about it. So does being stubborn and staying in denial, so heed my bad example and use it for good. Get over it and get on with it. One thing at a time. The hardest thing for me is planning, so I only plan a few days ahead, but I plan every day. After a while, I have the staples I need in the kitchen and for those days when planning just doesn't happen, I have a backup plan, using the staples on hand.
You're a newbie at this, so I'll cut you some slack. Keep it simple and stop confusing yourself and letting others confuse you. Everyday, there's a new 'take' on something. There's always going to be someone who tells you 'that's bad for you, ya know'. Ignore them. Do what works for you. Take what works and forget the rest. If you want to eat a chocolate muffin every day for a month, then do it. Stay within your calories and for heaven's sake, KEEP MOVING and you'll be fine. The only things you really need to watch out for are sitting still too long and eating without thinking/recording. These are the only two things that will kill you for sure.
Stay in the moment. Don't get wrapped up in 'what if's' and OMG it's not happening fast enough! If this is forever, it doesn't matter how long it takes, as long as you're on the journey and focused on the path, one step at a time. Pick routines that work, change 'em when you're bored. Stay calm. Drink a glass of water, close your eyes and breathe. "I want it now" is for children. "I am in the now" is for adults.
When you get to goal, you will diet fewer days in a week to maintain it. That's the only 'easier' thing about it. It's still forever, unless you like the idea of 250. Realistically, those are your options.
You're going to make it.
P.S. If you like the soup, eat the soup. Otherwise, check out hungrygirl's lasagna @ 250 calories a serving. I'm going to eat it every day this week. It's that good. If my family doesn't like it? Tough. I love them too.
In case you need the 'practical' stuff: I eat 200 calories for breakfast [fibre shake - gross, but necessary], 100 for morning snack [thinsations usually - not the best choice, but not the worst], 400 calories for lunch [whatever..sometimes frozen, sometimes not], 100 calories for afternoon snack, 400-500 calories for dinner [meat, veggies, salad, overall - something 'fresh'], 200 calories for evening snacks [yes, plural - I eat in the evenings because I want to and because this particular habit keeps coming back. While indulging it, I'd rather it didn't sabotage me completely, so I limit it to low-cal hot chocolate and toast/RF-PB or a hungrygirl muffin or something like that]. That adds up to about 1400 calories. I sometimes eat less [1200] and I sometimes eat more [up to 1800]. I'm hoping that by cycling calories it will keep my metabolism going and keep me losing steadily. I don't get hung up on the details, just on recording it.
Hollycat
Knit your Cares Away [and keep your eyeballs out of the kitchen]
HungryGirl.com makes it easy and I'm all for making it easy0 -
Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
I eat cheese, eggs, chicken, steaks, veggies, ice cream, pop tarts, reeces puff cereal, milk, bacon, oatmeal.
I come home after lifting sometimes barely able to walk up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment, and when I get up there my legs are shaking. I'm exhausted as hell and I still throw back some food and pop some chicken in the oven for 35minutes.0 -
It doesn't matter. Everything I want to eat, whether it's "healthy" or not, makes me gain weight! BTW what is healthy anyway? Everything is terrible, even soups and salads...what gives?
I hear your frustration! I used to exercise 3-5 times/week and thought I was doing pretty well watching what I was eating but no matter what I did, I was gaining weight year after year. Then in July 2010, I started P90X and actually started losing weight... but then the weight loss stopped. I did a lot of reading and research and learned a lot about my nutrition through a very simple 8-week nutrition guide.
First, I was NOT eating well before I started P90X - too many of the wrong kinds of foods.
Second, once I started P90X I went to the opposite extreme of not eating enough - 1300 calories/day wasn't doing it for me.
Third, I learned what it means to "eat clean".
I increased my calories to 1800-1900 calories/day and started really watching what I was eating - lean meats, whole grains, fruits, veggies, and plenty of water. Between those simple nutritional changes and the type of activity I was doing, I lost 28 pounds and have kept it off ever since.
I still have those "bad" foods on occasion... but I eat VERY well and have plenty of food throughout the day to keep me satisfied. And I actually find that when I do splurge on something like cake or cookies, I actually don't feel well after so those foods don't have the same attraction they used to.
The stuff I learned didn't cost me a thing and I've found a better way to eat that will last me a lifetime! Now, I get the privilege of sharing that info with others like you!
I hope that helps. Let me know if you need any more info!0 -
Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
I eat cheese, eggs, chicken, steaks, veggies, ice cream, pop tarts, reeces puff cereal, milk, bacon, oatmeal.
I come home after lifting sometimes barely able to walk up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment, and when I get up there my legs are shaking. I'm exhausted as hell and I still throw back some food and pop some chicken in the oven for 35minutes.
I think you are overwhelmed (and hello, we have ALL been there!). Which is why you need to stop beating yourself up. So what if you have nutella, milk and meat for lunch one day? Really? Don't put so much pressure on yourself.0 -
I think you are overwhelmed (and hello, we have ALL been there!). Which is why you need to stop beating yourself up. So what if you have nutella, milk and meat for lunch one day? Really? Don't put so much pressure on yourself.
Plan plan plan. I know what I am going to eat all.day.long. the day before. Being busy, that is the only way it happens.
Look, I am in no way an expert, but I hate to see someone so stressed out about this. I just want you to relax and let yourself breathe for a second. Can you fit in a glass of wine with your cals today?0 -
I think you are overwhelmed (and hello, we have ALL been there!). Which is why you need to stop beating yourself up. So what if you have nutella, milk and meat for lunch one day? Really? Don't put so much pressure on yourself.
Plan plan plan. I know what I am going to eat all.day.long. the day before. Being busy, that is the only way it happens.
Look, I am in no way an expert, but I hate to see someone so stressed out about this. I just want you to relax and let yourself breathe for a second. Can you fit in a glass of wine with your cals today?0 -
I think if you concentrate only on one day at a time you will find it easier to reeducate your eatting habbits.
Dont worry about if you are going to be eatting a big fat burger 2 years from now cause by then your motivations daily will probably be different .Just try to win your daily battles with food ,everytime you go to sleep you will reboot your thoughts just like a computer.
Thats how you will win the war ,by winning small daily battles.Im almost certai that when you achieve your desired weight and health level you will think twice about eatting unhealthy.good luck.0 -
Eating "what I want" is what my mind considers a normal meal. A sandwich. Some soup. A salad. Pasta. Etc. This is what I can't get over. I don't want to start eating for nutrients and throwing out a way of life that most people do every day and don't get fat.
Go ahead and eat whatever you want. Measure it all and record it in your journal. I'm not being snide. You are not going to see what's wrong with your diet unless you see it in writing. Have your sandwich, soup and pasta. If you put 3 tablespoons of mayonaise on your sandwich record it. If you put 1/4 cup of butter on your baked potato, record it. If you have 4 cups of pasta smothered in 2 cups of alfredo sauce, record it. Read the labels and record it all.
Hopefully what you are going to find is that you really don't want to put that 300 calories of mayonaise on your sandwich. That 1 tbsp is sufficient. Or that 1500 calorie pasta meal doesn't taste as good as it should for being a whole days worth of calories. That maybe 1 cup of pasta 1/2 cup of alfredo sauce and a tossed salad would have been a better choice.
Most peoples biggest problem with their diet is their portion sizes. You don't have to stop eating what you love, you have to stop eating so much of it.
You are right. Most people are eating whatever they want, whenever they want. But they ARE getting fat. Obesity is an epidemic.0 -
Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
I eat cheese, eggs, chicken, steaks, veggies, ice cream, pop tarts, reeces puff cereal, milk, bacon, oatmeal.
I come home after lifting sometimes barely able to walk up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment, and when I get up there my legs are shaking. I'm exhausted as hell and I still throw back some food and pop some chicken in the oven for 35minutes.
I don't really understand why you can't eat soups, salads and pasta??
I often batch make a vegetable soup with added beans which adds protein. Lots of fresh veggies, no added salt very tasty and filling. Make a load at once and bag and freeze in portions.
I also often take salads to work, I don't have a dressing on it and have some ham or chicken with it. Why can't you boil an egg or cook a chicken breast to go with your salad?
Pasta is fine but try to pick wholemeal pasta - nothing wrong with a small portion of wholemeal pasta, chicken and salad. Sandwiches aren't that bad if you make them yourself, again wholemeal bread, chicken, ham, egg for a filling. I sometimes have a sandwich and rice cakes for lunch, almost as good as crisps!!0 -
Take a look at my diary. Go ahead and look through every inch of it.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you obviously have ZERO idea about nutrition and how to eat healthy.
I'm being realistic.
I'm not saying you need to eat random crap. I used it as an example to show you that you can eat a whole hell of a lot and still be healthy.
And if my meal is a coconut oil seared steak, baked in the oven. With a poptart with nutella on top, why is that bad? Do you get what I'm trying to say?
Feel free to ignore all and everything I'm saying. But when you say that you have zero time to cook or prepare food, that gets me irked massively. There is always time to prepare food, always. Throw some chicken breast in the oven with pasta sauce, shower while it's cooking, get out of shower, take chicken out and throw some shaved parmesan cheese on there and you've got a solid meal in 35 minutes.0 -
I don't want to commit to eating only healthy foods for the rest of my life. Any advice?
To be healthy and not fat you don't have to commit to eating "only" healthy foods for the rest of your life, but you really do need to commit to eating mostly healthy foods.0 -
If so, kill me now. I want to eat the delicious foods that are terrible for me. When I cut those out, I just find other vices to fill the void. I'm starting therapy again but I don't want to commit to eating only healthy foods for the rest of my life. Any advice?
I think therapy is a good idea.0 -
I think you are overwhelmed (and hello, we have ALL been there!). Which is why you need to stop beating yourself up. So what if you have nutella, milk and meat for lunch one day? Really? Don't put so much pressure on yourself.
Plan plan plan. I know what I am going to eat all.day.long. the day before. Being busy, that is the only way it happens.
Look, I am in no way an expert, but I hate to see someone so stressed out about this. I just want you to relax and let yourself breathe for a second. Can you fit in a glass of wine with your cals today?0 -
Dude...are you drinking alcohol? *L* You did say you were on a liquid diet today....
Here's to all the lazy people! Stand up and cheer for yourselves! I'm one of them too. I like to have my cake and eat it too and I'd prefer it if someone else cooked it. I like hungrygirl, because the recipes are simple, easy and they generally substitute the stuff we all like for stuff we can still like that's not as high in calories or fat. I don't try to cook the whole recipe book in a week either. That's overwhelming.., I PICK ONE RECIPE. Buy the stuff for it. Cook it. Eat it. Judge it. Freeze the leftovers for tomorrow or toss in the garbage. Will I make it again? Yes or no. Will I add it to my 'like' list of recipes or just chuck it. Day after tomorrow [after eating said leftovers], I PICK A RECIPE. Buy the stuff for it, cook it, eat it, judge it. If I have too many recipes in my head or start getting ovrwhelmed, I get tough with myself and simplify things by picking one. Stay calm. Drink water. Breathe. Stop self-destruction on all levels. Take a nap. Chill. They are lining up around the block to be hard on me. Why on earth would I beat them to it?
Shoot. Have a McD cheeseburger and wash it down with a large diet coke. It's 300 calories. Lighten up on yurself. Baby steps.
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. Stay calm. Drink wine. Breathe. Stop self-destruction on all levels. Take a nap. Chill.
Shoot. Have a McD cheeseburger and wash it down with a large diet coke. It's 300 calories. Lighten up on yurself. Baby steps.
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Took me a second....*LOL* If I drank wine, I probably would.
Hollycat0 -
I used to feel the way you do. Then I came to realization. I had some cheesecake for the first time in months on Mother's Day. Instead of eating a whole piece (or a few pieces) I had half a piece. And you know what? I ate it much slower and enjoyed it 10x more than I used to. It truly was a "treat". The way it's supposed to be. I could eat it every day. But I wouldn't enjoy it near as much and I especially wouldn't enjoy my body. You have to decide what is more enjoyable in life for you: being lean and healthy or being fat and eating whatever you want whenever you want. If you truly feel as if you'd rather die then restrict your diet, then don't restrict your diet.
P.S. Perhaps you should stop focusing on eating "healthy" and just eat "less". I have not cut a single thing out of my diet. I just eat less of it all. Pasta, Meat, Cheese, Soup, you name it... I eat it. I just make sure my calories are at goal everyday and I've lost 32 lbs in 4 months.0 -
Why I like Hungry Girl [again]:
Italian Deli version of a chicken panini - 860 calories
advantage: someone else makes it, it's soooo delicious!
disadvantage: I feel crappy about myself after I eat it
Hungry Girl version of a chicken panini - 257 calories
advantage: 257 calories
disadvantage: I have to make four of them or my family whines and I have to find a place in the fridge to hide the secret fifth one, until lunchtime tomorrow. labelling 'mine' is useless. they are illiterate when it comes to tasty food.
[search 'sandwich' on hungrygirl.com]
Restaurant version of Turkey/Cheddar grilled sandwich - 667 calories
advantage: greasy goodness, guaranteed increase in cholesterol
disadvantage: I feel crappy about myself after I eat it and cry "Why Am I So Fat?"
Hungry Girl version of Turkey-Cheddar grilled sandwich - 228 calories
advantage: I did something for myself [and naturally, I shared it with my family...vultures...all of them]
disadvantage: 228 calories? same sized sandwich? wow. hard to believe.
[search 'sandwich' again on hungrygirl.com]
I don't generally choose soup. I"m using chinese noodle-type dishes in my comparison.
Chinese Restaurant version of lo mein [noodles with all the veggie goodness] - half order - 580 calories
advantage: comes with a fortune cookie
disadvantage: I'm hungry an hour later
Hungry Girl version of low mein - 167 calories for a honkin' big portion
advantage: I can eat 2 portions and still not feel crappy about myself
disadvantage: I can't move.....I'm so full.
[search 'lo mein' on hungrygirl.com]
It's so worth taking a few minutes to check it out...might give you a little boost..kind of like shopping and buying something you can't afford... without the guilt. hungrygirl.com
Hollycat
Knitting is meditative...and useful. It doesn't make me boring, so stop with the jokes already and put your sweater on dammit!0 -
If you think of it as a "diet", you will never be able to maintain your hard work. A diet is thinking in terms of short term goals, and if you want to be thinking in the longer term, you need to be considering this a lifestyle change. You will always need to be mindful and healthy, but your goals and the work you are willing to do are completely up to you!0
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Healthy food can be delicious too. I don't understand why you seem to think you can't eat meat, bread, dairy products and soup. What's wrong with those things? There is sooooo much you can do with a chicken breast that served with potatoes or pasta or rice or even a salad (blech! I hate salad) makes a lovely meal. I'm sure there are things you can do with other lean cuts of meat too. Do a search online, there are tons of recipes for low calorie meals. Eating healthily doesn't have to be bland and boring.
Nor do you have to cut out every single piece of not so good stuff. I refuse to cut burgers, cake, pizza etc completely out of my diet. I have one day a week where I can eat pretty much whatever I want. I still log it, I still weigh everything so that I'm only eating one serving of it. I don't go mad and binge on anything but if I go over my calories that one day then so be it. I find having that one day a week really helps me keep on track the rest of the week as I just tell myself "well I can have that on Saturday". Others may disagree with that but I found it worked for me when I did Weight Watchers. And once you get into the habit of eating properly you find you want the junk less and less to be honest.0 -
I think part of the problem is that you’ve picked up some half-truths or misconceptions about what foods are right to eat and it’s stripping away all the enjoyment you could get out of diet food. Don’t worry, we’ve all been there! Carbs being bad is a common misconception, although I must admit the ‘protein is bad’ is one I’m not used to – more often people seem to think you should ONLY eat protein.
The problem is, I think we could tell you that you can eat bread, chicken, all kinds of meat, yummy (but appropriate!) cakes, but it is hard to trust people when you’ve got a pretty solid idea of what a diet consists of in your head. My suggestion is to have a good, hard look at the food that is offered by official food chains/groups that have proven success in the field of weight loss to get an idea of the wide range of foods you can eat.
Think you can’t have carbs, especially bread? Look at Subway and their calorie charts. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having bread in your diet, you just have to be careful with the amount because it can quickly inflate your calorie count. Having a low calorie Subway burger for lunch each day is perfectly fine – and if you can’t afford that (as most of us can’t!), look at the calorie breakdowns for the burgers and make a similar value one at home. You CAN have your sandwich and eat it too . Hell, you can have fries as well – weight watchers wedges are a good place to start.
Think you can’t eat deserts? Look at the wide range available with weightwatchers. Personally, I LOVE the range of weight watcher muffins offered by Muffin Break. For less than 230 calories I can have something chocolately and sweet and YUM (and which taste especially divine when heated and with some WW’s ice cream). I also love weight watchers éclairs, which I kept frozen and are oh-so-good.
Once you get an idea of the types of food that places like Subway and Weightwatchers not only put out but recommend, you can branch out and experiment a little. I make a mean 350 calorie pizza - and that's for the whole thing, not some measly slice! WWs is pretty expensive here, so I often do a calorie/sodium comparison to find cheaper brands. I think what you really need to work on first, however, is rediscovering what foods really are available to you, and coming to trust in them.
Because your on a bit of a wrong track about right foods/wrong foods, I’d suggest going back to the very basics and gradually working your way up from there. Calorie count and keep an eye on sodium levels, and pretty much ignore everything else you’ve learnt about what you should or shouldn’t eat (within reason – no eating 1200 calories of ice cream and nothing else!). You don’t necessarily have to cut out everything you love, but look for the low calorie alternatives that will keep you inside your calorie count. Craving an American hotdog? Buy a couple of small whole grain rolls and a lowish calorie frank. Cut the frank in half, put a half in each bun, add American mustard (which is a godsend when it comes to low calorie sauces!), a sprinkle of cheese, some onions – voila! Dying for a baked potato? Have it with melted, gooey cottage cheese, onions, and baked beans. The goal is to incorporate that kind of thing into your diet instead of making it solely your diet.
A lot of dieting isn’t about cutting out entire types of food altogether, but eating them in healthier ways.0
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