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  • Losingitin2011
    Losingitin2011 Posts: 572 Member
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    My parents split up when I was three, and you know what, it was absolutely the best decision for them. They were smart enough to realize that they were no good together, and staying together "for the kids" would only make it worse on us. My father was a deadbeat when they were married, he's a deadbeat now. I don't think it's fair to judge anyone for getting a divorce when you do not know them personally and have no idea why they might want that divorce.
  • vox23
    vox23 Posts: 246 Member
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    I think it is terrible to judge those people who end up not being successful in marriage. Yes, marriage takes work, but both of you have to be willing to work at the same time. You can't have one person who wants to fix things and one that doesn't. And sometimes it's too late. How many years can you stay with someone you don't love for whatever reason. Maybe they were unfaithful. Maybe they broke your trust. Maybe years of marriage counselling and personal counselling just haven't been able to fix broken bridges. There are lots of reasons to work on a marriage, and lots of reasons to leave one.

    I have been married for 12 long hard years. It has never been easy. At some point you need to reevaluate your life and decide if you are willing to keep going just for the sake of your vows. I, for one, believe that there is no point in just hanging around and not finding your happiness' true potential. The last thing I would want to do is wake up 60 years old and realize I wasted the majority of my adult life being in a unfulfilling marriage.

    I applaud all those people who love each other so much that they can make it through anything. Well done!!! But, please, don't judge so harshly others who try and try and try and end up failing. I guarantee you, the thought of ending a marriage is never an easy one!
  • casey12105
    casey12105 Posts: 293
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    I think it is terrible to judge those people who end up not being successful in marriage. Yes, marriage takes work, but both of you have to be willing to work at the same time. You can't have one person who wants to fix things and one that doesn't. And sometimes it's too late. How many years can you stay with someone you don't love for whatever reason. Maybe they were unfaithful. Maybe they broke your trust. Maybe years of marriage counselling and personal counselling just haven't been able to fix broken bridges. There are lots of reasons to work on a marriage, and lots of reasons to leave one.

    I have been married for 12 long hard years. It has never been easy. At some point you need to reevaluate your life and decide if you are willing to keep going just for the sake of your vows. I, for one, believe that there is no point in just hanging around and not finding your happiness' true potential. The last thing I would want to do is wake up 60 years old and realize I wasted the majority of my adult life being in a unfulfilling marriage.

    I applaud all those people who love each other so much that they can make it through anything. Well done!!! But, please, don't judge so harshly others who try and try and try and end up failing. I guarantee you, the thought of ending a marriage is never an easy one!

    This. I've been trying to decide how I wanted to phrase my response to this thread, but you did it for me.
  • shanolap
    shanolap Posts: 1,204 Member
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    I was married to the biggest POS for 5 years when I was young. We got married because I was pregnant and his family thought strongly it was the right/best thing to do. Guess what, the right/best thing for me was to walk away! I raised our son while he was partying, unemployed and a general loser. (He still is at 50 yrs old) I NEVER wanted to marry again...

    Then I met this young man. This young man rocked my world! He has been an excellent friend, provider & partner in crime. He is everything I never imagined could be mine. Our love does evolve as the years pass and I am grateful for that. At 37, he has accomplished so much and continues to grow.

    What makes us work...Respect! Respect the person, respect the changes in life and respect the love that you are given.

    Good luck to you!
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
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    I agree with you, for the most part. I DO believe that love can die. Relationships are work, and if you don't work at it consistently, love can eventually die. It might be possible to rekindle but possibly not always.
  • XBabigrl72
    XBabigrl72 Posts: 88
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    ARE YOU REALLY SEROUS

    How can you generalize all divorces into one chunk of "it didn't work out in these past 3-7 years" without knowing what was going on?! Do you know all these people personally.......?

    Not sure if you read my post the right way. I was talking more about myself and worrying that my marriage will last as long as a normal statistical marriage would. I was no where near a generalization of all divorces and time span. also I included that I have no idea what the reasons behind other peoples divorce is. As someone who has seen they're parents love, times get hard and them not love each other anymore and now they're together again. I am aware that ALL situations are different.
  • XBabigrl72
    XBabigrl72 Posts: 88
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    "Now I know that sometimes even after you try everything to make it work it still might not."

    To everyone who seems to believe I am passing judgment, making generalizations and so on and so forth you ALL neglected the fact that I said that. I am not ignorant to the fact that people DO try. I am NOT ignorant to the fact that everyone has they're reasons for separating. But I also know there are a good number of people who get married out of convince, to young, are forced into it by family and the reasons for a waste of time marriage are endless. For all of you who have had the pain for going though a divorce I'm deeply sorry you went through whatever it is that lead you to it. I'm assuming everyone who is severely pissed about my post had a good reason for divorce or knows someone who had a good reason for divorce. Like I said sometimes trying doesn't work.
    I WILL NOT change my opinion on thinking it is sad that divorces are listed in the paper and that marriage is often taken lightly.

    Everyone of you is entitled to their own opinion but learn how to read. I didn't drag out the fact that I know that even after you try getting out is still the best thing because that's just not what I was talking about in this post but I did throw that in there because I DO know this.
  • bzmom
    bzmom Posts: 1,332 Member
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    bump
  • jdg1mfp
    jdg1mfp Posts: 103
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    Been Married 4 times. Getting pretty good at it now.

    I had to laugh!
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
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    Everyone of you is entitled to their own opinion but learn how to read. I didn't drag out the fact that I know that even after you try getting out is still the best thing because that's just not what I was talking about in this post but I did throw that in there because I DO know this.

    good on ya honey, the worst part about this website is the ripping you get from other people because they lack the skills to read...they're just projecting...even people that did have a horrible divorce didn't jump down your throat, they calmly explained why they got a divorce and in no way crapped on you...because they read your post appropriatly. The divorce rate is very high, and it isn't a holy union anymore, you are 100% right in your opinion and your statement!
  • kelligonzales
    kelligonzales Posts: 391
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    Marriage is a forever changing, developing and constantly moving beast. People are who they are in every relationship you have keep changing and adapting. The moment you don't is when divorce happens. Both people need to give a little, both need to be willing to bend and see when you are wrong and look at it logically and fix the problem. Two pleople should never fight to fight. You should fight to resolve the problem..... but now a days people aren't willing to bend they will just go find someone else.
  • SoFancySoBlessed
    SoFancySoBlessed Posts: 224 Member
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    I TOTALLY AGREE....ME AND MY HUSBAND WILL HAVE BEEN MARRIED 12 YEARS ON JULY 4TH AND WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY ROUGH PATCHES...IT'S NOT ALL SMILES AND LAUGHTER....I FEEL THAT US BEING GOD FEARING PLAYS A LARGE PART IN OUR RELATIONSHIP AND WE CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT ANYTHING! :heart: KEEP LOVE ALIVE PEOPLE...IT'S WORTH IT IN THE LONG RUN :flowerforyou:
  • kelligonzales
    kelligonzales Posts: 391
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    i think everyone should do what they can to make things work, but you do only get one life, and theres no point living with some terrible decision you made in your youth your whole life just because you "should".
    marriage does take hard work, but you also need a fundamental base of love, and sometimes that just dies out for many different reasons, and sometimes, it just never was going to last the distance and a couple were just swept away in romance.
    My ex husband left me after 9 years because "he wasnt in love anymore" and tbh, im glad he had the guts to do it in hindsight, because i would have just gone along with what i signed up for and never truly known proper love and happiness like i do with my partner now


    This is a good POV
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
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    <,. After that long wouldn't you be willing to make things work?>>

    Nope, not always.

    My ex decided he didn't want to be grown up, he didn't want to have responsibilities, he didn't want to have to follow a budget, he completely, totally morphed into a first class a**hole and then some, blowing our mortgage money and car payment on his little 'girlfriend(she was 19, 'working her way thru college' as a stripper, found out later, she didn't even have a GED), He was, at that time, 39. . .

    We were married 17 yrs be the time the divorce went thru. . .only two good things came of him, my little sister(she's adopted from 'friends' of his), and my dogs. . .that's it. . .yep, a waste of time and money but it's nobody's place to be judgemental about it.

    And don't EVER think it's just easier. it sure the hell wasn't easy, I felt like a failure, I felt horrid, I was so depressed I dropped 40 lbs in 4 months. .. but it was for MY best interest, since he told my mom he'd thought twice about calling 911 when my asthma closed my throat and I passed out unable to breath.

    I'm happier now, friends state I'm happier now than I was 10 yrs ago, so it was for the best. Hope he's miserable :)

    Yep, i'm an evil B*tch when it comes to him.
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
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    Together with my soon-to-be-ex for 15+ years. She cheated. We went to counseling. She cheated while going to counseling. Call me crazy, but I think that is a pretty good indicator it is over. I am not good at picking up subtle hints, but I got this one.

    OUCH!!
    same here *shakes head*
    you can't make/force someone to be faithful....stay committed to you..try to make it work
    I was with my Dh since I was 16...2 small kids.....out of the blue found he was cheating on me for the past 3 yrs with multiple women...so there are very real/valid reasons to end a marriage....it;'s now always about being lazy...or not wanting to putt in the work...

    Ouch, btdt. . .yep, it's sometimes about the other partner NOT respecting you
  • Kjarlune
    Kjarlune Posts: 178
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    Nobody but nobody gets married with divorce in mind. I was married 16 years before I finally gave up. It was the best decision because if I had stayed with him he would have dragged us down in the mud he is now stuck in. It turns out he has been a really lousy father since.

    I totally agree that people should try to make it work, but after 16 years if you see that really fundamental problems are there, and there is only one side making a try of fixing them, then sometimes you have to let it go. My situation was not one of not trying or not being prepared to work at it, nothing would have fixed things because he is not capable of changing. Seems I was totally done over by his charm, which he has in spades, just not honesty and integrity and strong moral compass.


    GG


    I am sorry not trying to start anything honest. I work with people every day and 80% of society getting married, knows before they walk down the isle that this will end in divorce. I am a minister as well as a therapist and I marry people, I see it all the time and then refuse to marry them.

    We get married because we love them, or we want to feel important, we think we should, too late to say no, want to become parents, our family like them, money, believe we can change them, not want to be alone, there is a great number of reasons people get married.

    Marriage is hard work, but more importantly it is about compromise, it is about asking yourself...Can I accept everything about this person as they are for the rest of my life. The good and the bad and the indifferent...

    I will say thank you to the op because I was just fighting with my husband today...and I am in the wrong...So thank you...I am sure my husband will thank you as well when I run down stairs and attack him...lol...ty
  • Kjarlune
    Kjarlune Posts: 178
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    I got my 10yr in with almost 15yrs of marriage and a hella life insurance policy. Im not going anywhere :laugh:


    hahahahahahahaha I tell my husband that too....No Divorce for me..House in Mexico maybe but no divorce..lol
  • SabrinaJL
    SabrinaJL Posts: 1,579 Member
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    Due to the fact that we know a couple who get divorced after 50 years together, my husband and I decided we haven't really made it until one of us is dead. :laugh: Until then, we've agreed to work very hard on our marriage.

    Once I saw a question on the facebook page of my daughter's best friend. It was, "Do you think relationships are hard work?" Her answer was, "No, and if you think so, you're not ready for one." It made me laugh. It was very much an answer I'd expect from a 17 year old.
  • broadsword7
    broadsword7 Posts: 411 Member
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    I was married for 13 years, and then it fell apart. My ex and I are still friends, and we didn't have any kids. Thank goodness, because for an old romantic like me, divorce was bad enough. I think with children it would have been much, much worse. It's hard to say whether or not another relationship is in the cards. I am older and wiser now...wise enough to know that when it comes to love, wisdom has nothing to do with it.
  • bsexton3
    bsexton3 Posts: 472 Member
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    Thank you to all for sharing some of your pain and your stories.

    I have truly been blessed. My wife and I met over dinner in the college dining hall almost 28 years ago. Went from dinner and visited until midnight. We were married 18 months later and will celebrate our 26th over Memorial Day weekend. Celebrate it by watching our son graduate from high school and go to join his sister at the same university we went to 25 years ago.

    We talk once and a while about people commenting that marriage is work. Ours has never been. We are as good a friends today, and respect each other as much as we did then. Fortunately, we still talk out all major decisions, support each other when the other is going through a stressful situation, and discuss any disagreements when they come up. In all our marriage, we have had one real "fight" 15 years ago when I was interviewing for a job and was stressed. I ended up not getting the job, but another one came along a few months later.

    I too am saddened when I see good friends divorce. Some were married the same summer we were. As the second of three kids heads off to college, we are starting to discuss what our marriage will become when we are empty nesters.

    We also found MFP together. She lost the 12 she has always wanted to lose since before we were married. I am getting back to that early marriage weight.

    You are in my prayers.