Does the UN actually do...ANYTHING???

JeremyInvincible

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7600005.stm

This isn't so much a post to debate the topic of the article, but more one of....aren't these people supposed to be stopping wars etc???



*sigh*

JeremyInvincible

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7600005.stm

This isn't so much a post to debate the topic of the article, but more one of....aren't these people supposed to be stopping wars etc???



*sigh*

Manda86

*eye roll*

That is stinkin' ridiculous.

*double sigh*

TamTastic

Hmmm....interesting what is being focused on huh?? LOL!!

Mmmm, that 97% ff BEEF hot dog I had last night was GOOD!!! :laugh:

Manda86

JeremyInvincible

Mely

Don't you know what U.N. actually stands for??

Unwanted Nobodies.

Square root of useless.

jackeh

really the UN has time to discuss how much beef we should be consuming.....:huh: i wonder what they do in their FREE time

JeremyInvincible

really the UN has time to discuss how much beef we should be consuming.....:huh: i wonder what they do in their FREE time

I'm sure the Georgian's in Eastern Europe are relieved that the UN has their beef consumption interests at heart.




'No Democratic Republic of Georgia, we won't assist you with those Russian tanks over there, but we would like you to know that we feel your Beef consumption is leading to Global Warming, so if you could cut down, that would be greeeeeaaaaat.'

(that hissing noise you hear in the background is my biting sarcasm)

jackeh

I wonder how much the group of UN people who came up with this was paid.... and has McDonalds made a counter statement yet?:laugh:

scheidch

From the UN's charter:

"Purposes

The purposes of the United Nations, as set forth in the Charter, are to maintain international peace and security; to develop friendly relations among nations; to cooperate in solving international economic, social, cultural and humanitarian problems and in promoting respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms; and to be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in attaining these ends."

I honestly am not seeing how greenhouse gases fit into that bundle... :laugh: Maybe they are considering this a "humanitarian" problem?

JeremyInvincible

From the UN's charter:

"Purposes

The purposes of the United Nations, as set forth in the Charter, are to maintain international peace and security; to develop friendly relations among nations; to cooperate in solving international economic, social, cultural and humanitarian problems and in promoting respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms; and to be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in attaining these ends."

I honestly am not seeing how greenhouse gases fit into that bundle... :laugh: Maybe they are considering this a "humanitarian" problem?

Maybe if someone pointed out that the Russian Tanks that invaded a sovereign country were contributing to global warming the UN would see fit to step in.

Fit2btied

really the UN has time to discuss how much beef we should be consuming.....:huh: i wonder what they do in their FREE time

Apparently, they are measuring cow and sheep front and rear emissions!:laugh:

jackeh

really the UN has time to discuss how much beef we should be consuming.....:huh: i wonder what they do in their FREE time

Apparently, they are measuring cow and sheep front and rear emissions!:laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: and how exactly do they measure that?

may_marie

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here

if we dont take care of the environnement, soon enough there wont be any planet nor humans to care of.

when the water level will flood up nearly all of florida, food shortage worldwide and everything else happens,,, i bet you'll be wishing the UN did more for the environement.

not sure what a climate scientist can do for go georgians anyways.

Don't get me wrong though, my heart goes go to all victims of any conflict around the world,
and the UN could do better on ALL fronts.

may

Manda86

Show me scientific proof that global warming is a real threat and is more than just hype, and I'll be concerned.

That is all.

walnut

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here

if we dont take care of the environnement, soon enough there wont be any planet nor humans to care of.

when the water level will flood up nearly all of florida, food shortage worldwide and everything else happens,,, i bet you'll be wishing the UN did more for the environement.

not sure what a climate scientist can do for go georgians anyways.

Don't get me wrong though, my heart goes go to all victims of any conflict around the world,
and the UN could do better on ALL fronts.

may

Couldn't have said it better myself.

TamTastic

Show me scientific proof that global warming is a real threat and is more than just hype, and I'll be concerned.

That is all.

Right. I mean, I am open-minded to any information out there to actually support the global warming issue. HOWEVER, there have been major climate changes over thousands of years....well before there were any automobiles, factories, etc etc! So....what caused THOSE "disasters"?????

Fit2btied

The climate is cooling. When this happened when I was a child, they were all screaming we were all gonna die of freezing temperatures. I believe it's the sun. It has bursts of output. What can we do about that?

TamTastic

The climate is cooling. When this happened when I was a child, they were all screaming we were all gonna die of freezing temperatures. I believe it's the sun. It has bursts of output. What can we do about that?

Right!

JeremyInvincible

Show me scientific proof that global warming is a real threat and is more than just hype, and I'll be concerned.

That is all.

Oh snap!

Uhm...sure is a nice day outside...haha, actually it's rather cool for a Early September day, ahahahaha!

Anyhoo, I understand that the UN wants to make sure that Florida doesn't flood, because I am positive that Kofi Annon and a few others around there absolutely love Animal Kingdom, but I mean cmon, let's look at the major conflicts around the world and what our beloved UN is doing to help put them to rest....

Sudan
Georgia
Lebanon
Burma/Myanmar
Turkish incursions in Iraq
Afganistan
Pakistan (Government collapse and skirmishes with Afgan forces)
Chechnya
Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Iran (Refusal to cooperate with the West on pretty much anything, threatening Israel at every turn)
The Fatah/Hamas conflicts
Somalia

And that is 2008 alone, and what has the UN done to stop any of this??? I work in Internation Relief, and I know of how many people die because of the inaction of this glorious international peace keeping body. Do your job UN, bring peace to the world and I might consider not eating a hamburger.

JeremyInvincible

The climate is cooling. When this happened when I was a child, they were all screaming we were all gonna die of freezing temperatures. I believe it's the sun. It has bursts of output. What can we do about that?

Maybe the UN could send one of it's crack ambassadors to discuss the situation with this 'Sun'. Might be he's eating too much meat. :noway:

Manda86

The climate is cooling. When this happened when I was a child, they were all screaming we were all gonna die of freezing temperatures. I believe it's the sun. It has bursts of output. What can we do about that?

Maybe the UN could send one of it's crack ambassadors to discuss the situation with this 'Sun'. Might be he's eating too much meat. :noway:

I laughed so hard over the last two posts I almost barfed.

walnut

Show me scientific proof that global warming is a real threat and is more than just hype, and I'll be concerned.

That is all.

I really don't have time to debate this with you all, but I just can't go without responding to this post and the ones agreeing with it. There has been SO MUCH evidence to support that global warming is real and is going to pose a threat to us if it isn't stopped, and that the climate change that is going on right now is something like 10x worse than it ever has been before, and ways of linking this to carbon output that is the byproduct of the way we live our lives today. Again, I don't have time to comb the internet to find sources for you, but I'd suggest starting with the film An Inconvenient Truth - this is the most comprehensive and easily accessible case I've seen made. You can check out the sources used in this film if you are interested. I kind of doubt that any sources anyone can provide are going to change your minds anyway - if you see source after source after source and choose to believe that it's just hype, I don't know how much and what kind of proof you need. I'd also ask you to check out the sources behind claims that it is just hype - I know there was one billboard in my town claiming this and it was financed by the oil companies.

yoginimary

Guys, I thought you just agreed to stay away from controversial topics in another thread. Please do.

JeremyInvincible

Show me scientific proof that global warming is a real threat and is more than just hype, and I'll be concerned.

That is all.

I really don't have time to debate this with you all, but I just can't go without responding to this post and the ones agreeing with it. There has been SO MUCH evidence to support that global warming is real and is going to pose a threat to us if it isn't stopped, and that the climate change that is going on right now is something like 10x worse than it ever has been before, and ways of linking this to carbon output that is the byproduct of the way we live our lives today. Again, I don't have time to comb the internet to find sources for you, but I'd suggest starting with the film An Inconvenient Truth - this is the most comprehensive and easily accessible case I've seen made. You can check out the sources used in this film if you are interested. I kind of doubt that any sources anyone can provide are going to change your minds anyway - if you see source after source after source and choose to believe that it's just hype, I don't know how much and what kind of proof you need. I'd also ask you to check out the sources behind claims that it is just hype - I know there was one billboard in my town claiming this and it was financed by the oil companies.

It's obvious that Walnut is passionate about Global Warming, and that's all fine and dandy.

What I am passionate about it the millions upon millions of human beings that suffer and lose their lives due to UN inaction while they are sitting around making inane suggestions about how people should live their lives. Ok UN, we got it, you want us not to eat meat so the world doesn't become an oven. Roger that. Now get off your international butts and do something worth while for a change.

I am honestly appalled, yet little surprised that 'global warming' was mentioned again, while the whole point of the thread and the 12 examples of global conflict around the world that I cited was ignored. Maybe if Al Gore made a movie about *that* people might take more of an interest in it.

Oh, and just so you know, 'An Inconvenient Truth' is far from the best evidence of global warming. In fact that's the movie that where I actually went, 'what???' and started looking into the facts for myself. I still haven't made up my mind on the whole Global warming, (is it real or not?) debate. All I know is that if someone wants to convince me of something, usually using facts instead of half-truths does a better job of convincing me.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/environment/gore.html

Now to get back on topic, it's as if the UN is chasing down topics to 'look into' so they can feel important, when what they need to be doing is what they are charted to do. They are not chartered to look into scientific theories, there are plenty of private and government funded science organizations all over the world that can research whether meat contributes to enviromental destruction. What those same private and govermental entities can't do, is show a world wide united front against war and tyranny, which is what the UNITED NATIONS was founded to do. The UN has no teeth, and no Despot anywhere in the world is afraid of them.

That's the point of this post. I have seen first hand the suffering that goes on in this world. I just wish people who claim to be help end it, would do just that.

jill927

Ok, so just to throw my 2 cents in,

According to all the scientific data (whether you believe it or not is your choice...) herds of cattle are one of the main reasons for global warming, and the reason this is a problem now, not when cattle were wild is because of human interference. It's all about the way we raise them, the fact that we raise more than would occur naturally, and the way we take care of/don't take care of their waste.

This has been shown by innumerable environmental impact studies and has been accepted as fact by international communities, scientifically. The reason we don't see a lot of that in the U.S. is because it has become a highly politicized debate.

JeremyInvincible

Ok, so just to throw my 2 cents in,

According to all the scientific data (whether you believe it or not is your choice...) herds of cattle are one of the main reasons for global warming, and the reason this is a problem now, not when cattle were wild is because of human interference. It's all about the way we raise them, the fact that we raise more than would occur naturally, and the way we take care of/don't take care of their waste.

This has been shown by innumerable environmental impact studies and has been accepted as fact by international communities, scientifically. The reason we don't see a lot of that in the U.S. is because it has become a highly politicized debate.

Apparently global warming is more important to people than human suffering.

Since this has become a global warming topic, much to my chagrine, this will be it for me.

Fit2btied

Apparently global warming is more important to people than human suffering.

Since this has become a global warming topic, much to my chagrine, this will be it for me.
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Jeremy, since you work with international aid, how can an individual make a difference besides being informed. I help local charities, and I have a child sponsored in Tanzania, but I don't know how little ole me can make a bigger difference. Any suggestions?

songbyrdsweet

Ok, so just to throw my 2 cents in,

According to all the scientific data (whether you believe it or not is your choice...) herds of cattle are one of the main reasons for global warming, and the reason this is a problem now, not when cattle were wild is because of human interference. It's all about the way we raise them, the fact that we raise more than would occur naturally, and the way we take care of/don't take care of their waste.

This has been shown by innumerable environmental impact studies and has been accepted as fact by international communities, scientifically. The reason we don't see a lot of that in the U.S. is because it has become a highly politicized debate.

It's not their waste that causes problems.


It's their farts. :laugh:


We need to form the MFP Coalition for the Distribution of Beano. The MFP CDB will make every effort to battle the threat of global warming by forming relationships with farmers--as well as their gassy cows--and promoting the distribution and free use of Beano gas-prevention pills.

Fit2btied

Jeremy, since you work with international aid, how can an individual make a difference besides being informed. I help local charities, and I have a child sponsored in Tanzania, but I don't know how little ole me can make a bigger difference. Any suggestions?
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Would really like a response! Pleeeease