Saturated Fat
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I use smart balance instead of butter, Kraft olive oil mayo instead of regular and I try not to use cheese too ofter but when I do I use low fat cheese non-processed . It makes a huge difference.
Smart Balance ingredients: Natural Oil Blend( palm fruit, soybean, fish, canola and olive oils.)
Soy and canola oils are polyunsaturated fats which make up the majority of fat found in arterial clogs. How is that better for you than real butter when only 26% of an arterial clog is saturated fat.0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
The studies I've read did not show that saturated fat increases cholesterol, but that it causes it to collect in your blood, thus forming clots that clog arteries. Unsaturated fats have been shown to increase your HDLs which prevent the clots. This is why a lot fat diet is not healthy, but a diet low in saturated fat is. Like any eating "rule" there are execeptions. Any medical study that claims to "prove" anything should be discounted, though I've never seen one that did. Studies "suggest" things, and the more studies that suggest the same thing, the more it is generally accepted. There have been many, many studies by many different organizations over many years that have suggested that saturated fat can cause your arteries to clog and unsaturated fats can cause them not too. This is easy to check on the internet by going to reputable medical sites (hospitals, medical universities, American Diabetes or Heart Assoc., etc.)0 -
For mayo, you might try Hellman's Canola oil Mayo. I can' t tell any difference in the taste but has 1 less gram of saturate fat per 2 Tbs. I've never found anything that tastes as good as butter so I gave it up years ago. I will occasionally use Benecol but mostly I just do without and cook with olive oil.
If you listen to those that tell you to keep eating or increase saturated fat, you'd be wise to get your cholesterol levels checked regularly.
I do.
They're normal.
:drinker:
Happy to hear it. I was not suggesting that a diet high in saturated fats would definitely raise your cholesterol levels. Everyone should have their cholesterol checked regularly, but there is medical evidence that eating high levels of saturated fat CAN raise your LDL and overall cholesterol, so those following that diet would be wise to keep a professional eye on it.
The supporting evidence ignores the evidence that doesn't support it. That would be like me saying that in high crime areas there are increased calls to police therefore to lower crime, stop calling the police. LDL and HDL are not even cholesterols, they are proteins that carry cholesterol. LDL brings in new cholesterol and HDL removes old cholesterol. LDL can carry both oxidized and unoxidex cholesterol, it is the oxidized cholesterol that causes arterial damage, which then has to be repaired by unoxidized cholesterol. So if you only focus on your LDL numbers, which have you reduced, oxidized or unoxidized?0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
The studies I've read did not show that saturated fat increases cholesterol, but that it causes it to collect in your blood, thus forming clots that clog arteries. Unsaturated fats have been shown to increase your HDLs which prevent the clots. This is why a lot fat diet is not healthy, but a diet low in saturated fat is. Like any eating "rule" there are execeptions. Any medical study that claims to "prove" anything should be discounted, though I've never seen one that did. Studies "suggest" things, and the more studies that suggest the same thing, the more it is generally accepted. There have been many, many studies by many different organizations over many years that have suggested that saturated fat can cause your arteries to clog and unsaturated fats can cause them not too. This is easy to check on the internet by going to reputable medical sites (hospitals, medical universities, American Diabetes or Heart Assoc., etc.)
There are three people alone on this topic that eat high saturated fat diets, all with completely healthy cholesterol and triglyceride levels, what does that say for the studies? I have not just read studies to support my views, I used to believe as most people did that saturated fats were bad. But then, instead of only reading articles on the specific topic I began to research the science behind it; at which point the only logical conclusion is that the studies in support of the lipid hypothesis are blatantly wrong and I am willing to bet that in the next 10 years there will be a lot more whistle blowers on this.0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
The studies I've read did not show that saturated fat increases cholesterol, but that it causes it to collect in your blood, thus forming clots that clog arteries. Unsaturated fats have been shown to increase your HDLs which prevent the clots. This is why a lot fat diet is not healthy, but a diet low in saturated fat is. Like any eating "rule" there are execeptions. Any medical study that claims to "prove" anything should be discounted, though I've never seen one that did. Studies "suggest" things, and the more studies that suggest the same thing, the more it is generally accepted. There have been many, many studies by many different organizations over many years that have suggested that saturated fat can cause your arteries to clog and unsaturated fats can cause them not too. This is easy to check on the internet by going to reputable medical sites (hospitals, medical universities, American Diabetes or Heart Assoc., etc.)
There are three people alone on this topic that eat high saturated fat diets, all with completely healthy cholesterol and triglyceride levels, what does that say for the studies? I have not just read studies to support my views, I used to believe as most people did that saturated fats were bad. But then, instead of only reading articles on the specific topic I began to research the science behind it; at which point the only logical conclusion is that the studies in support of the lipid hypothesis are blatantly wrong and I am willing to bet that in the next 10 years there will be a lot more whistle blowers on this.
We shall have to wait and see about the 10 yrs. I'm sure there are thousands of people eating a high saturated fat diet that have healthy lipids. Just last week I saw the guy that has eaten a Big Mac everyday for years eat some record breaking number and his lipids are fine. Does that mean Big Macs are healthy? No. All research on saturated fats and lipids is not funded by the vegetable oil industry. That's just silly. Most is funded by government grants to universities or hospital researchers. Most of these researchers would LOVE to have their study show something new because there is nothing a researcher loves more than to publish something debunking other research.0 -
Replacing saturated fat with poly or mono unsaturated fat can prove beneficial.
Replacing saturated fat with carbohydrate generally is not.
Eating a higher level of saturated fat...jury is still out, but direct correlation to CVD is inconclusive.
http://www.rd411.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1452:saturated-fat-and-cholesterol-a-look-at-the-conflicting-information&catid=98:heart-health&Itemid=392
http://www.ajcn.org/content/91/3/502.abstract
Here's my own results:
Total cholesterol numbers went up slightly. HDL increased, LDL and Tri-G were lowered. I need to test again to compare now that I'm eating even fewer carbohydrates to see where the numbers go.
That HDL number. That's the ticket. Your risk pattern is pretty dependent on the individual numbers:
http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/2011/05/total-cholesterol-220.html
Another factor is your fasting blood glucose. Is it high? A common pattern with high carbohydrate consumption (especially refined carbohydrate consumption is low HDL, high LDL, high fasting blood glucose. THAT combination would be a high risk factor combination for CVD. Generally most studies today agree on that. Where they tend to disagree is the role of saturated fat. So as we're all going round and round on the forums on who's right and wrong, so are medical studies 0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
The studies I've read did not show that saturated fat increases cholesterol, but that it causes it to collect in your blood, thus forming clots that clog arteries. Unsaturated fats have been shown to increase your HDLs which prevent the clots. This is why a lot fat diet is not healthy, but a diet low in saturated fat is. Like any eating "rule" there are execeptions. Any medical study that claims to "prove" anything should be discounted, though I've never seen one that did. Studies "suggest" things, and the more studies that suggest the same thing, the more it is generally accepted. There have been many, many studies by many different organizations over many years that have suggested that saturated fat can cause your arteries to clog and unsaturated fats can cause them not too. This is easy to check on the internet by going to reputable medical sites (hospitals, medical universities, American Diabetes or Heart Assoc., etc.)
There are three people alone on this topic that eat high saturated fat diets, all with completely healthy cholesterol and triglyceride levels, what does that say for the studies? I have not just read studies to support my views, I used to believe as most people did that saturated fats were bad. But then, instead of only reading articles on the specific topic I began to research the science behind it; at which point the only logical conclusion is that the studies in support of the lipid hypothesis are blatantly wrong and I am willing to bet that in the next 10 years there will be a lot more whistle blowers on this.
We shall have to wait and see about the 10 yrs. I'm sure there are thousands of people eating a high saturated fat diet that have healthy lipids. Just last week I saw the guy that has eaten a Big Mac everyday for years eat some record breaking number and his lipids are fine. Does that mean Big Macs are healthy? No. All research on saturated fats and lipids is not funded by the vegetable oil industry. That's just silly. Most is funded by government grants to universities or hospital researchers. Most of these researchers would LOVE to have their study show something new because there is nothing a researcher loves more than to publish something debunking other research.
Not when the government is funding a lot of those studies, there is an alternative agenda there with the corn, soy and other farming industries. That is one of the main reasons why these doctors and research scientists are made to look like they are total loones because they are contesting the research that is being done.
If you don't think that the government is not swaying these studies by waving money at the schools and research facilities, please think again.0 -
Hi Lazywriter,
Don't worry about consuming too much saturated fat. Despite all the negative publicity, saturated fats appear to be benign over a wide range of intakes if the remainder of the diet contains adequate supportive nutrition. What you want to watch out for is omega-6s. Google "Your Brain on omega 3" and "Dairy consumption does not elevate heart-attack risk, study suggests" and "Bad cholesterol not as bad as people think, shows Texas A&M study" and "Omega-6 Me" and Controversial saturated fat."0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
Ha ha, we totally get it don't we???
It is so much common sense that people are denying.......0 -
Hi Lazywriter,
Don't worry about consuming too much saturated fat. Despite all the negative publicity, saturated fats appear to be benign over a wide range of intakes if the remainder of the diet contains adequate supportive nutrition. What you want to watch out for is omega-6s. Google "Your Brain on omega 3" and "Dairy consumption does not elevate heart-attack risk, study suggests" and "Bad cholesterol not as bad as people think, shows Texas A&M study" and "Omega-6 Me" and Controversial saturated fat."
Thank You and some nuts and most of the vegetable oils are very high in Omega 6............I try my best to stay far away and actually go out of my way to increase my saturated fat intake.
I am getting my blood work done around the middle of June. We will see from last year to this year what the improvement is.
Since I started low carbing and eating a lot of fats, protein and lower carb intake my doctor actually asked me to raise my cholesterol a bit. I was dropping too low for her liking. She said she actually like to see people's cholesterol right around the 200 mark. She states from her research that a total cholesterol of around 200 is optimum.0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
Ha ha, we totally get it don't we???
It is so much common sense that people are denying.......
I like to think so, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it common sense. I took me quite a bit of research to change my thinking from the popular opinion and many people don’t have the desire to do that on their own so they rely on bodies of authority that we should be able to trust for their information. Unfortunately many of these authorities cannot be trusted and have agendas of their own, which then shapes the popular opinion.
For anyone still skeptical think of it this way; If mother nature made it, and it is edible, then eat it. If it was made in a lab or factory, stay clear or only eat it in moderation. And to preemptively address the person that will undoubtedly say “but vegetable oil is natural”, I ask you to go out, pick and ear for corn and try and make corm oil. The production of corn oil REQUIRES factory processing.0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
Ha ha, we totally get it don't we???
It is so much common sense that people are denying.......
I like to think so, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it common sense. I took me quite a bit of research to change my thinking from the popular opinion and many people don’t have the desire to do that on their own so they rely on bodies of authority that we should be able to trust for their information. Unfortunately many of these authorities cannot be trusted and have agendas of their own, which then shapes the popular opinion.
For anyone still skeptical think of it this way; If mother nature made it, and it is edible, then eat it. If it was made in a lab or factory, stay clear or only eat it in moderation. And to preemptively address the person that will undoubtedly say “but vegetable oil is natural”, I ask you to go out, pick and ear for corn and try and make corm oil. The production of corn oil REQUIRES factory processing.
Interesting. Where do you get ANY food that hasn't been processed through a factory? I'm assuming you don't eat meat, or do you only eat what you hunt, kill and process yourself? Becaused farmed meat, even organic, is FAR from what Mother Nature intended. Do you grow all your own vegetables? That well may be the way to go, but unfortunately this modern world doesn't allow many of us that kind of time or space.0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
Ha ha, we totally get it don't we???
It is so much common sense that people are denying.......
I like to think so, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it common sense. I took me quite a bit of research to change my thinking from the popular opinion and many people don’t have the desire to do that on their own so they rely on bodies of authority that we should be able to trust for their information. Unfortunately many of these authorities cannot be trusted and have agendas of their own, which then shapes the popular opinion.
For anyone still skeptical think of it this way; If mother nature made it, and it is edible, then eat it. If it was made in a lab or factory, stay clear or only eat it in moderation. And to preemptively address the person that will undoubtedly say “but vegetable oil is natural”, I ask you to go out, pick and ear for corn and try and make corm oil. The production of corn oil REQUIRES factory processing.
Interesting. Where do you get ANY food that hasn't been processed through a factory? I'm assuming you don't eat meat, or do you only eat what you hunt, kill and process yourself? Becaused farmed meat, even organic, is FAR from what Mother Nature intended. Do you grow all your own vegetables? That well may be the way to go, but unfortunately this modern world doesn't allow many of us that kind of time or space.
You took that extremely literally. There is a difference between things that exist in nature and are made available through a factory and things that do not exist in nature and can only be produced through a factory. To answer your questions though, yes, I do grow some of my own vegetables and try and get my meat from local, natural (not chain supplier) farms. What I get from stores I make the best attempt possible to get organic produce, grass fed meat products, and wild fish.0 -
Just got me some virgin coconut oil. 1 tbs = 14g fat, 13g sat fat. Four of these a day = 52g of saturated fat. I don't think I have a problem meeting my fat intake anymore. If I die, I'll let you all know.0
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Just got me some virgin coconut oil. 1 tbs = 14g fat, 13g sat fat. Four of these a day = 52g of saturated fat. I don't think I have a problem meeting my fat intake anymore. If I die, I'll let you all know.
LOL, yes, please let us know. I am going to have to get some of that.0 -
As someone who is opened minded and always willing to learn, I checked out the links in some of the above posts. I still am not convinced that a large amount of saturated fats can in any way shape or form be healthy. I can find just as much information supporting the fact that saturated fats clog your arteries! So, I guess we can agree to disagree
Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The other 74% is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated
The idea that saturated fats are bad for you originated with the lipid hypothesis which claimed two things; (1) saturated fats cause a n increase in cholesterol and (2) cholesterol causes heart disease. Both of these claims have NEVER BEEN PROVEN. All of the evidence (when you look at all of it, not just what they report on) shows that there are just as many people with high cholesterol that eat low fat diets as there are that eat high fat diets. Additionally, there are just as many people with heart disease that have low cholesterol as there are with high cholesterol.
So why are there more studies that support the lipid hypothesis? The answer is $$$MONEY$$$. There have been several doctors and scientists that have challenged this and were rewarded with the revocation of their grants, denial of future grants, and blacklisted in the scientific community. In almost all cases that support the lipid hypothesis the funding is coming from the statin drug companies, vegetable oil companies or the agricultural industry. If you eat less fat products what, by default do you eat more of? Carbohydrates, grains, wheat, flour, oils, etc…
If you want to reduce or avoid your risk of heart disease and obesity reduce your starchy carb intake and replace that with fats, proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
Ha ha, we totally get it don't we???
It is so much common sense that people are denying.......
I like to think so, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it common sense. I took me quite a bit of research to change my thinking from the popular opinion and many people don’t have the desire to do that on their own so they rely on bodies of authority that we should be able to trust for their information. Unfortunately many of these authorities cannot be trusted and have agendas of their own, which then shapes the popular opinion.
For anyone still skeptical think of it this way; If mother nature made it, and it is edible, then eat it. If it was made in a lab or factory, stay clear or only eat it in moderation. And to preemptively address the person that will undoubtedly say “but vegetable oil is natural”, I ask you to go out, pick and ear for corn and try and make corm oil. The production of corn oil REQUIRES factory processing.
Interesting. Where do you get ANY food that hasn't been processed through a factory? I'm assuming you don't eat meat, or do you only eat what you hunt, kill and process yourself? Becaused farmed meat, even organic, is FAR from what Mother Nature intended. Do you grow all your own vegetables? That well may be the way to go, but unfortunately this modern world doesn't allow many of us that kind of time or space.
You took that extremely literally. There is a difference between things that exist in nature and are made available through a factory and things that do not exist in nature and can only be produced through a factory. To answer your questions though, yes, I do grow some of my own vegetables and try and get my meat from local, natural (not chain supplier) farms. What I get from stores I make the best attempt possible to get organic produce, grass fed meat products, and wild fish.
Same here................I am growing my own vegetables and I have a CSA membership for things I don't have room to grow. I am purchasing fruits from a local pick your own organic farm down the road from where I live.........
We picked out the cow, pig and bison we eat and I get chickens delivered from my sisters in laws every couple of months along with fresh eggs and sometimes raw milk.
For other things I am hitting up the farmers markets again.
Some people make those comments just to start an argument............0 -
Just got me some virgin coconut oil. 1 tbs = 14g fat, 13g sat fat. Four of these a day = 52g of saturated fat. I don't think I have a problem meeting my fat intake anymore. If I die, I'll let you all know.
What brand of coconut oil did you purchase? I like Nutiva and Jungle brand the best. Tropical Traditions is ok.
Your health is only going to improve from here..............Have you seen and read about the wonderfulness of coconut oil, cream and milk????0 -
Cool beans. I bought Nutiva. I don't know what I'm doing. This is my first time going coconut. I just went to a health store and compared various coconut oils.
If you say Nutiva is the best, I'll stick with it. Thanks for the info.
Yeah I read about the great benefits of coconut. It started out as cholesterol > HDL > saturated fat > coconut oil.0
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