Protein pre or post workout or else?

CommandaPanda

I purchased over $100 worth of merchandise from GNC last night and I want to use it efficiently and effectively

misscfe

My trainer has me drink protein right after my workouts. He also wants me taking it in throughout the day but at least after the workout.

calliope_music

i do both. i do something like a banana and peanut butter before working out and then sometimes i will do a protein shake afterwards.

ampjorgensen

http://www.active.com/nutrition/Articles/Get_enough_protein_after_your_next_workout.htm<<<&lt; I'm going for post as well

LieutenantJoker

You should take about 20 grams of carbs about twenty to thirty minutes before your work out. Examples of this may be an apple, a piece of bread, etc. You should take about 20-30 grams of protein within a half an hour of your workout.

Don't listen to a lot of the guidelines supplement companies will give you. GNC's Wheybolic 60 will tell you to use three scoops per serving for 60 grams of protein. Save yourself the money (and the gastric distress) and use one scoop.

No matter what the supplement companies say (remember, they're trying to sell you things), your body cannot metabolize more than 30 grams of protein at a time unless you're a hulking 300 lb bodybuilder.

_Sally_

Depends on when your workout is, If it is first thing in the morning, I just eat simple carbs - piece of fruit or 2 - 3 dates. (per my trainer's advice and it seems to work for me)

If the workout is later in the morning or in the afternoon or evening, I just eat my regular meals and snacks (which have at least 15 g and 6 g protein each) and don't do anything specific pre-workout.

[ I also agree with LieutenantJoker - you're body can't absborb more than 25 - 30 g protein at a time - watch the calories in the protein shakes... I use half the recommended serving of my protein powder and mix with soy milk for a 20g protein shake]

CommandaPanda

All great information, thank you much!

I usually workout in the morning around 7 right before work. I go for at least an hour but it usually lasts for 1:45 (sometimes 2) with heavy lifting followed by a 30 minute run

RangerSteve

You should take about 20 grams of carbs about twenty to thirty minutes before your work out. Examples of this may be an apple, a piece of bread, etc. You should take about 20-30 grams of protein within a half an hour of your workout.

Don't listen to a lot of the guidelines supplement companies will give you. GNC's Wheybolic 60 will tell you to use three scoops per serving for 60 grams of protein. Save yourself the money (and the gastric distress) and use one scoop.

No matter what the supplement companies say (remember, they're trying to sell you things), your body cannot metabolize more than 30 grams of protein at a time unless you're a hulking 300 lb bodybuilder.

Not quite true. You're correct about protein companies being shady and trying to sell you their product. However, the protein limit myth is being debunked daily. You can start by reading here:

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/is-there-a-limit-to-how-much-protein-the-body-can-use-in-a-single-meal/

edit: Notice the references in his article, that's the important stuff

NYgeorgiapeach

My nutritionist has me drinking a protien shake in the morning when I wake up, and one after I work out. She also wants to drink some during the day if I am having a particularily active day.

mynameisuntz

You can consume your protein shakes whenever you want. Whether it's immediately before/after working out, or 4 hours before/after working out.

It truly, TRULY does not matter so long as you hit your calories/macronutrients at the end of the day.

mapexdrummer69

To put it simply, it's irrelevant when you consume your protein, or where you get it from.

jmula

actually, It all depends on how much. if you are having a shake, it's a bit heavy, and may weigh you down. (my personal experience). I always have some branched chain amino acids, (pills), and 16 ounces of water mixed with a creatine mixture.
if i eat. It will be a small meal consisting of a higher percentage of carbs for immediate energy.

mapexdrummer69

The time at which you consume the protein is irrelevant in the context of daily protein numbers. Total amount>timing.

jmula

My nutritionist has me drinking a protien shake in the morning when I wake up, and one after I work out. She also wants to drink some during the day if I am having a particularily active day.

most of my info that I look at, or recomend, is geared towards body building, and power lifting. but with any reading, i'm sure you can take a little knowledge and use it.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/meal-frequency-and-mass-gains.html

Teemo

You can consume your protein shakes whenever you want. Whether it's immediately before/after working out, or 4 hours before/after working out.

It truly, TRULY does not matter so long as you hit your calories/macronutrients at the end of the day.

To put it simply, it's irrelevant when you consume your protein, or where you get it from.

Both of these, although I consume most of my protein post-workout since that's also when I eat. Plus... I like the idea of the "anabolic window" even though it's pretty much completely broscience. :laugh:

mynameisuntz

Both of these, although I consume most of my protein post-workout since that's also when I eat. Plus... I like the idea of the "anabolic window" even though it's pretty much completely broscience. :laugh:

Same here. I'm always hungry post-workout since all I have beforehand is a protein shake after a 16 hour fast :O

Teemo

Both of these, although I consume most of my protein post-workout since that's also when I eat. Plus... I like the idea of the "anabolic window" even though it's pretty much completely broscience. :laugh:

Same here. I'm always hungry post-workout since all I have beforehand is a protein shake after a 16 hour fast :O

Gotta slam those BCAAs pre-workout, Bro!

mynameisuntz

Gotta slam those BCAAs pre-workout, Bro!

Yeah right bro. I take ON Hydro Whey before, during, and after training. Halfway through my routine I take 2 scoops hydro whey with 2 tbsp of BCAAs, and 10 minutes after my last set I take another 2 scoops hydro whey + 2 scoops Cell Tech (not to be confused with dat dere cell tech...maybe...) with 2 servings of dextrose WITH 2 tbsp BCAAs plus a serving of creatine. And sometimes, usually after leg day, I put thumbtacks in my post-workout shake, too.

Come at me, bro. COME AT ME.

Teemo

Yeah right bro. I take ON Hydro Whey before, during, and after training. Halfway through my routine I take 2 scoops hydro whey with 2 tbsp of BCAAs, and 10 minutes after my last set I take another 2 scoops hydro whey + 2 scoops Cell Tech (not to be confused with dat dere cell tech...maybe...) with 2 servings of dextrose WITH 2 tbsp BCAAs plus a serving of creatine. And sometimes, usually after leg day, I put thumbtacks in my post-workout shake, too.

Come at me, bro. COME AT ME.

Nice. Hydrowhey is a good choice because the hydrolyzed proteins get them into your system when your body needs it most. Also. Aware?

mynameisuntz

Nice. Hydrowhey is a good choice because the hydrolyzed proteins get them into your system when your body needs it most. Also. Aware?

I figured the 'dat dere cell tech' was a dead giveaway.

Aware.

JNick77

I purchased over $100 worth of merchandise from GNC last night and I want to use it efficiently and effectively

The answer is both. Have some protein and carbs before hand, during, and protein after although many trainers and nutritionists are starting to think that carbs post-workout aren't that important and should be consumed prior to and during.

Teemo

I figured the 'dat dere cell tech' was a dead giveaway.

Aware.

What gave me away?

mynameisuntz

What gave me away?

Nothing until the aware.

You should represent by changing your avi to your body with your face replaced with bertstare.jpg.

Teemo

What gave me away?

Nothing until the aware.

You should represent by changing your avi to your body with your face replaced with bertstare.jpg.

I try to legitimately help people here but it's like fighting the tide sometimes. I've completely stopped posting in high-reps to tone threads.

mynameisuntz

I try to legitimately help people here but it's like fighting the tide sometimes. I've completely stopped posting in high-reps to tone threads.

Surprising to see a misker trying to legitimately help people! I'm more from the nutrition section ;]

Teemo

I try to legitimately help people here but it's like fighting the tide sometimes. I've completely stopped posting in high-reps to tone threads.

Surprising to see a misker trying to legitimately help people! I'm more from the nutrition section ;]

From Nutrition? Then MFP must drive you crazy... I just started reading the Carbs - friend or foe? thread and lol. Also, I like it here, the food tracking is pretty easy to use and makes it easy to track macros (albeit a little loosely). And the people are pretty friendly and supportive -- sometimes too much so.

Ironically, I'm occasionally considered a troll here.

mynameisuntz

From Nutrition? Then MFP must drive you crazy... I just started reading the Carbs - friend or foe? thread and lol. Also, I like it here, the food tracking is pretty easy to use and makes it easy to track macros (albeit a little loosely). And the people are pretty friendly and supportive -- sometimes too much so.

Ironically, I'm occasionally considered a troll here.

It sure does. It's funny how the nutrition section is just this giant wealth of information where the majority of its users support science and have really turned against "traditional thought" in the nutrition/bodybuilding community; the minority still subscribes to broscience. Whereas here it's the opposite of that setup.

Stop reading. Just do yourself a favor and stop reading that thread. It will hurt your brain.

Haha, oh sweet irony. Do you troll the misk? I post pretty infrequently in that section, I more peruse it for the lolz.

Teemo

It sure does. It's funny how the nutrition section is just this giant wealth of information where the majority of its users support science and have really turned against "traditional thought" in the nutrition/bodybuilding community; the minority still subscribes to broscience. Whereas here it's the opposite of that setup.

Not surprising. The majority of people still, understandably, get their information from Men's Health or blogs. And the blogs don't exactly keep up to date on nutritional developments...

Stop reading. Just do yourself a favor and stop reading that thread. It will hurt your brain.

Too late -- just finished, and I literally busted out laughing every other post. I loved the part where basically:

Haha, oh sweet irony. Do you troll the misk? I post pretty infrequently in that section, I more peruse it for the lolz.

Sometimes, but I try to be a legitimate poster everywhere I go. When I troll I troll obviously although I somehow missed the mark in that paleo thread.

mynameisuntz

Not surprising. The majority of people still, understandably, get their information from Men's Health or blogs. And the blogs don't exactly keep up to date on nutritional developments...

Yeah, it's tough to convince people that mainstream magazines and books aren't proper sources of evidence when they have little concept of science and subsequently hold those sources of "information" on a pedestal

Stop reading. Just do yourself a favor and stop reading that thread. It will hurt your brain.

Too late -- just finished, and I literally busted out laughing every other post. I loved the part where basically:

Classic photo is classic.

Sometimes, but I try to be a legitimate poster everywhere I go. When I troll I troll obviously although I somehow missed the mark in that paleo thread.

The misc is just so bad for nutritional information. I've seen people talking about GI on there like it's necessary in a diet. I was taken aback by that, even for the misc that's pretty crazy.

Do you ever frequent the nutrition section or not so much?

Teemo

Do you ever frequent the nutrition section or not so much?

For information, but not to post very frequently. Especially when I have little to add to conversations -- I am unashamedly an Aragon/Berkhan follower, and while I independently research hotly/newly contested topics to develop my own opinion I'm happy to trust in their critiques.

mynameisuntz

For information, but not to post very frequently. Especially when I have little to add to conversations -- I am unashamedly an Aragon/Berkhan follower, and while I independently research hotly/newly contested topics to develop my own opinion I'm happy to trust in their critiques.

Haha, right. I know how that goes. Hence me seeking greener pastures. Aragon is active enough in those forums where it's pointless to give input since he's bound to show up in most of the good threads. If you're active enough to the point of being familiar and make him laugh, though, you'll get some mod reps ;]