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ChubbyBunny

Oh, so you change yours so for the day it says what you need it to.

It does sound complicated, but it's working for you! I just need to find the right groove that works for me.
So, I need to be eating at least my BMR (scary!!!!)?

I will look for those brands next time I run into one of those stores.

My ratios are 50 (carbs)-30 (protein...which is still high for me)-20 (fats)
I need stuff to keep my energy up, I noticed when my proteins were so high I was soooo tired.

Where do you get your numbers to subtract? I was going to just start working with a zig-zag pattern Princess Laundry gave me (well she gave me the site to figure out my zigging)

songbyrdsweet

Oh, so you change yours so for the day it says what you need it to.

It does sound complicated, but it's working for you! I just need to find the right groove that works for me.
So, I need to be eating at least my BMR (scary!!!!)?

I will look for those brands next time I run into one of those stores.

My ratios are 50 (carbs)-30 (protein...which is still high for me)-20 (fats)
I need stuff to keep my energy up, I noticed when my proteins were so high I was soooo tired.

Where do you get your numbers to subtract? I was going to just start working with a zig-zag pattern Princess Laundry gave me (well she gave me the site to figure out my zigging)

Yup...I know what I should be eating, and I was doing this for a year before I found MFP, but it's SO much easier to do it here than doing all the math in a notebook lol!

Really I don't think it's necessary to eat less than your BMR. If you're not doing any exercise, and you want a 500 calorie deficit, you may need to eat less than your BMR. But is that really necessary? You could just as easily add exercise and live with a 300 calorie deficit. In the long term, that would produce better results for a longer period of time. I have never had good results eat 1200-1400 cals per day...I got stuck at 139 for the longest time, and I was sooooo tired and grouchy.

A high-protein, low-carb, low-fat diet is probably the worst thing we can do in terms of energy production. Our bodies have to go through the process of converting the amino acids to glucose, and there's not a lot of fat available for ketone production, so everything is inefficient and time-consuming and generally results in more muscle-loss than any other way of eating. Low-carbs have to be replaced with high-fat.

I just sort of fudge my subtraction numbers. If I subtract 500 calories, it's because I'm assuming that I won't be burning anything else through extraneous activity because I'm taking school, work, and exercise into consideration. If I subtract 250-300 calories, it's because I'm assuming that I'll probably burn the other 250 either by walking around or sleeping at night or driving. On my off day, I don't really subtract anything. I may be in a deficit, maybe not. It's a day for recovery, so I need nutrients.

ChubbyBunny

Huh, hadn't thought of it like that.

I have never been able to lose a significant amount of weight with extreme low calorie/carb intake. Max 10lbs and that was with a 1200 calorie diet and 45 minute cardio/toning workouts everyday. I would tone up awesome but very little actual fat loss.

I will go make my adjustments to see how it goes this week. I gained 1lb this week, that I busted my butt to lose the week before. :explode:

songbyrdsweet

Huh, hadn't thought of it like that.

I have never been able to lose a significant amount of weight with extreme low calorie/carb intake. Max 10lbs and that was with a 1200 calorie diet and 45 minute cardio/toning workouts everyday. I would tone up awesome but very little actual fat loss.

I will go make my adjustments to see how it goes this week. I gained 1lb this week, that I busted my butt to lose the week before. :explode:

That 1lb gain could be ANYTHING. Don't attribute every change in the scale to fat gain or loss, and don't attribute a non-change in the scale to a plateau. I only record my weight when I see it go down, which happens about every 2 weeks. I'll be at one weight for a while, and then I'll catch myself on a good day when I'm not retaining water and my bowels are empty and I'll be down 1-1.5 pounds. That's really good progress for me because I'm down around 20% body fat and aiming for something in the teens. When I see the scale is up 2 lbs in one day, I know it's not fat, it's just that I haven't been regular or I'm retaining water or just had a refeed. You should buy a tape measure made for sewing, the floppy kind, and take measurements. Those mean a lot more than the scale.

ChubbyBunny

ok....you are lookin awesome.

Fitness_Chick

bumpin for a later more detailed read:drinker:

songbyrdsweet

ok....you are lookin awesome.

Awe thanks :blushing: I need to get some new pics up, but my camera is broken It's interesting to track measurements though, you can watch how fat distribution changes and how you're shrinking. I measure my bicep (flexed), waist (around the belly button), abdomen (the poojie part under the belly button), butt (at the widest part), hips (right under the butt), thigh (widest section of my right thigh), and calf (widest part of calf). If you can get a body fat % measurement from someone in a gym with calipers, that's a great tool too. Just make sure they're trained and try to get the same person each time, because everyone will have a slightly different 'style'.

AJCM

Thanks you guys.
I did have some left over calories.

PB is good, but I don't eat tons of it. I need to find a....healthier option....to my families Jif supply.
It's filling because of the fat, so....it helped.

I am trying to figure out an easy way to do a zig-zag method.
To be honest the weight isn't comin off, no matter how much I exercise (which I've had to cut back on cause I can't eat all the calories) and eating healthier (not 100% but way better then before).

Anyway, thanks for everyones suggestions. It helped a lot and improved my mental state. :flowerforyou:

Oh girl - you might like the zig zag! Is it just too much planning and counting? I know some of the sites that explain the method make it VERY arduous!

Good luck!
:flowerforyou:

ChubbyBunny

It's not so much planning.
I am pretty prepared.

I found one site that keeps it pretty basic. Alternating between two different calorie intakes a week.

I just need to figure out my niche so I can get some weight loss results. Toning is great, but I still have to get the fat off somehow.

AJCM

It's not so much planning.
I am pretty prepared.

I found one site that keeps it pretty basic. Alternating between two different calorie intakes a week.

I just need to figure out my niche so I can get some weight loss results. Toning is great, but I still have to get the fat off somehow.

Are you really close to your goal, so the weight loss has slowed? Once I got to a BMI of around 24, the weight just stopped coming off. I got it started up again by upping my calories and exericse (I rarely ate less than 1700 and rarely worked out less than a hard hour) and, the weight started to come off again. I took the summer off, and am now getting back to things with low cals, and when the weight loss slows down, I will up it again. I do a modified zig zag of one day of high cals per week (like Bill Phillips recommends) - so around 1400 total most days (with 500+ cals burned through exercise) and then 2000 one day a week (which is what I burn with BMR and exercise).

Good luck and let us know when the scale starts moving again and what did the trick!
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