Ketosis diet

kassandra1717

Has anyone hit a plateau and tried the ketosis diet? If you know anything about it please share.

EuroDriver

Lol

horseryder77

um.. you know ketosis is the state in which your body is basically starving and starts using muscles for nourishment, right?
(I know there's more scientificy stuff to it.. that's just what I remember from my nutrition class)

crisanderson27

um.. you know ketosis is the state in which your body is basically starving and starts using muscles for nourishment, right?
(I know there's more scientificy stuff to it.. that's just what I remember from my nutrition class)

There are two forms. Ketosis is the 'safe' one...the other is ketosis acidosis. They are not the same.

FairyMiss

um.. you know ketosis is the state in which your body is basically starving and starts using muscles for nourishment, right?
(I know there's more scientificy stuff to it.. that's just what I remember from my nutrition class)

actually in ketosis your body burns fat



By restricting carbohydrates drastically to a mere fraction of that found in the typical American diet, the body goes into a different metabolic state called ketosis, whereby it burns its own fat for fuel.

kassandra1717

um.. you know ketosis is the state in which your body is basically starving and starts using muscles for nourishment, right?
(I know there's more scientificy stuff to it.. that's just what I remember from my nutrition class)

There are two forms. Ketosis is the 'safe' one...the other is ketosis acidosis. They are not the same.

YES you are right.. I've read that many times. People get it wrong all the time.

elds2000

You have to drop your Carbohydrate levels low enough to go into ketosis. Then your body has stopped using glucose for fuel and uses your body fat instead. It usually takes a few days to use up your glucose and begin this process, The ketones are a side effect (a state of ketosis). If you want to know you are in ketosis, you can buy Keto-sticks in your pharmacy and check your first morning urine for ketone levels. The darker the color, the more ketones your body is releasing, which means it is using fat stores for fuel. Most ppl have to stay at 10-20 carbs per day to do this but it varies. Some can go up as high as 30-50 carbs per day and maintain a state of ketosis. I have to stay around 20 or less and my husband can stay around 30 or less.

In diabetics, ketosis acidosis is an unhealthy state which happens due to the nature of the disease if not monitored properly (that's the short story in plain English).

AZTrailRunner

Sure to affect your mood too. My buddy is a pro bodybuilder (natural) and he does something similar to this... and can get fairly cranky until he gets some carbs in him.

kassandra1717

Sure to affect your mood too. My buddy is a pro bodybuilder (natural) and he does something similar to this... and can get fairly cranky until he gets some carbs in him.

Oh well it will only be for a month max..

LaJauna

Sure to affect your mood too. My buddy is a pro bodybuilder (natural) and he does something similar to this... and can get fairly cranky until he gets some carbs in him.

Oh well it will only be for a month max..

The problem with using low carbing as a short term weight loss method is you will gain back what you lost plus a few extra pounds. It can't be a quick fix plan it is either a life style change or not.

crisanderson27

Sure to affect your mood too. My buddy is a pro bodybuilder (natural) and he does something similar to this... and can get fairly cranky until he gets some carbs in him.

Oh well it will only be for a month max..

The problem with using low carbing as a short term weight loss method is you will gain back what you lost plus a few extra pounds. It can't be a quick fix plan it is either a life style change or not.

No, not necessarily. If you use ketosis to burn body fat, then maintain a healthy diet after (that could maintain that bodyfat anyhow), you won't gain anything back, or at most you'll gain a slight amount of bodyfat to the level of your current diet's maintenance. It's people that use low carb to lose...then go back to their previous diet that got them fat in the first place...or even one similar. You bet they'll gain it all back then.

BR1986FB

I try to keep my carbs <100g's (all veggies & fruits) on heavy weight training days and on light days I'm in ketosis. This is typically 4x's a week. Has worked well for fat shedding.

EuroDriver

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The problem with using low carbing as a short term weight loss method is you will gain back what you lost plus a few extra pounds. It can't be a quick fix plan it is either a life style change or not.
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Bullllllcraaap! Have u ever done the diet?? Didnt think so... Ive done it as a cut... Lost 25lbs in 1 month(was a fail cuz i lost lot o muscle..) but when i stopped and got back to eating healthy/eatin my maintance i gained only 6-7lbs back n then dropped them again.

Thnx for the bro sience thoUgh

sunkisses

makes your breath stink! :laugh:

TK421NotAtPost

Has anyone hit a plateau and tried the ketosis diet? If you know anything about it please share.

Unless you feel you are very sensitive to carbs, there really is no true metabolic advantage to being in a state of ketosis as long as you are consuming sufficient protein.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/83/5/1055.abstract

If you feel as if your weight loss has stalled, I would try upping your protein. :glasses:

4KidFather

I've hit ketosis (not ketoacidosis -grins-) and it is very therapeutic for losing excess bodyfat. If you're high carb it might feel crappy initially but once your metabolism makes the change it's great. Just do it till you get your fat where you want then start adding fruits and veggies for energy. I've went for months getting most energy from fat with no decrease in performance or fat gain. tasted great too:)
sugar shouldn't be considered a carb btw
ketosis - works every time it;s tried -but you can't hit the soda afterwards
Enjoy

Sure to affect your mood too. My buddy is a pro bodybuilder (natural) and he does something similar to this... and can get fairly cranky until he gets some carbs in him.

Oh well it will only be for a month max..

LaJauna

The problem with using low carbing as a short term weight loss method is you will gain back what you lost plus a few extra pounds. It can't be a quick fix plan it is either a life style change or not.
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Bullllllcraaap! Have u ever done the diet?? Didnt think so... Ive done it as a cut... Lost 25lbs in 1 month(was a fail cuz i lost lot o muscle..) but when i stopped and got back to eating healthy/eatin my maintance i gained only 6-7lbs back n then dropped them again.

Thnx for the bro sience thoUgh
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Why, yes I have tried it. I am a seasoned low carber. I have lost and gained 1000 lbs over the last 30 yrs. I speak from experience. If you want to use it to lose and maintain with another dietary method, blessings to you. I have found it extremely difficult to jump off and on the low carb wagon. I am too much of an additive personality, I suppose. If I eat any "carbage" I gain and I crave and I eat. I have to abstain from high carb foods of all sorts because of that.

EuroDriver

makes your breath stink! :laugh:

Now that is a fact!! Ur breath will stink, ull taste *kitten* in mornings, ur urine will smell strooong and will be so dark that ull have the doc on speed dial! I was in high ketosis at half way cut lol Dont remeber the MLs too lazy to check on the ketostix right now,

martinah4

Has anyone hit a plateau and tried the ketosis diet? If you know anything about it please share.

You know you've struck a raw chord here? It always happens...the To Carb or Not To Carb debate. Anyway, if by "ketosis diet", you mean low-carb or Atkins, then I can tell you my experience. I've been doing Atkins since February of this year. Down 45 lbs. Ketosis, like earlier posters have said, is a state in which your body is burning your body fat for fuel, instead of carbs. I keep mine at 20 net carbs a day, mostly from vegetables. It is completely healthy. It is a lifestyle change. And, as with any diet, you will gain weight back if you go back to your old way of eating. If you decided to commit to low-carb, the first 2-3 days you will get the "carb-flu". You will feel fatigued, have headaches, etc. It goes away, and you'll come out on the other side with a ton of energy, feeling really good. For me, after about 2 weeks, my cravings for carbs went away completely. I like to say that I've been through mine and 4 birthdays in my family without even a craving for cake or cupcakes. If you do decide to eat refined or starchy carbs (bread, pasta, stuff made with flour, etc) it's not the end of the world, you can hop back into ketosis again. For me, though, I've felt so good, I didn't want to try my luck, and risk more cravings, thus blowing my diet. I would strongly suggest that you either read the Atkins books that detail the plan, and be prepared to do it the right way, no cheating. If you're only trying to do it as a lose-weight-quick thing, it will fail you, you will gain your weight back, and then become Anti-Low Carb, and start spouting info on here about how it didn't work for you....we low-carbers don't need any more of that! So good luck, and if you're serious, you can friend me for help or advice!

coffeemisto

The Dukan Diet has a 5-10 day state of Ketosis that works well.

Leanne1795

I am a low carber and I am also diabetic. I am full of energy and love this lifestyle. It's a bit of a "cave man" diet really. Protein, fat and carbs in the form of veg. My protein choice is meat/ fish etc. But even vegetarians can follow this lifestyle. It is easy and natural if done right. I am never hungry and I am full of energy. My diabetes loves it and I take less insulin now than I ever have. :happy:

candistyx

I experimented with ketosis recently. It was interesting, I lost a lot of weight pretty quickly (maybe too quickly) which I put down to almost non-existent hunger levels during the experiment, and now I am having a bit more carbs I gained a small amount (about a pound) compared to the greater amount I lost. I think I might try another bout of it as soon as I've had my baking day (baking for my boyfriend but you know I am gonna lick the spoon/bowl :P).

Barneystinson

There IS an advantage to ketosis for those with metabolic disorders or those who are having a very difficult time losing. You can also use periods of ketosis and carb-ups for cutting without losing performance.

When you get out of ketosis and up your carbs, you'll see a slight gain, mostly water retention associated with higher carb levels. As long as you're staying within your caloric goals, these will subside in a few days.

kassandra1717

Thank you everyone for your info. I already have a lower carb diet and I'm not one who craves stuff or eats un heathy. I've just reached a plataue and would like to try something else. If I lose weight doing this I can't picture myself gaining the weight back ecause my diet already is very clean and I'm not a fan of breads an pastas anyways.

SueInAz

A lot of people will cut carbs to break a plateau, there's nothing wrong with it. I've spent perhaps a year total on Atkins (not currently, however) and I can honestly say that I never had any problems with my breath or a bad taste in my mouth while I was eating low carb and in ketosis. What I did experience (and this might sound strange!) is that when I'm in ketosis the smell when I urinate changes. It's not a bad smell, just different, and it's how I know I'm in ketosis without the need for strips.

FairyMiss

Sure to affect your mood too. My buddy is a pro bodybuilder (natural) and he does something similar to this... and can get fairly cranky until he gets some carbs in him.

when i do it i never get cranky, i tend to feel much better the less carbs.

FairyMiss

The problem with using low carbing as a short term weight loss method is you will gain back what you lost plus a few extra pounds. It can't be a quick fix plan it is either a life style change or not.
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Bullllllcraaap! Have u ever done the diet?? Didnt think so... Ive done it as a cut... Lost 25lbs in 1 month(was a fail cuz i lost lot o muscle..) but when i stopped and got back to eating healthy/eatin my maintance i gained only 6-7lbs back n then dropped them again.

Thnx for the bro sience thoUgh
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actually i know her, and dont know if i would say she done the diet, but she lives a low carb lifestyle, so watch your judgements

bellinachuchina

The problem with using low carbing as a short term weight loss method is you will gain back what you lost plus a few extra pounds. It can't be a quick fix plan it is either a life style change or not.

No, not necessarily. If you use ketosis to burn body fat, then maintain a healthy diet after (that could maintain that bodyfat anyhow), you won't gain anything back, or at most you'll gain a slight amount of bodyfat to the level of your current diet's maintenance. It's people that use low carb to lose...then go back to their previous diet that got them fat in the first place...or even one similar. You bet they'll gain it all back then.

Thank you for this. I'm beyond tired of seeing "once you get off that diet (or) if you lose weight fast you'll gain it all back & then some!". The only way you gain anything back is by resuming you *kitten* eating habits. Statements like that are the rationalizations of those who are disappointed w/ their current progress or lack of discipline, imo and experience. Preaching that is simply hindering potential. I'm proof that you can lose weight quickly and maintain a loss/continue losing. I've been maintaining my goal weight for over a year now.

I've had success w/ low carb, give it a try!

SHBoss1673

there's a lot of really bad information on this thread. Rather than add to the mayhem, I would suggest you seek out a registered dietitian (NOT a nutritionist or doctor unless that doctor has post-graduate nutritional training) and have a long conversation with them. Ketosis isn't something you do to "shed fat", that's all I'll say about that, it's serious stuff and deserves it's due research before you attempt it.

crisanderson27

there's a lot of really bad information on this thread. Rather than add to the mayhem, I would suggest you seek out a registered dietitian (NOT a nutritionist or doctor unless that doctor has post-graduate nutritional training) and have a long conversation with them. Ketosis isn't something you do to "shed fat", that's all I'll say about that, it's serious stuff and deserves it's due research before you attempt it.

That's too bad...I respect your opinion and would love to hear it.

I can understand why you wouldn't put it out there though...rough subject.

SHBoss1673

there's a lot of really bad information on this thread. Rather than add to the mayhem, I would suggest you seek out a registered dietitian (NOT a nutritionist or doctor unless that doctor has post-graduate nutritional training) and have a long conversation with them. Ketosis isn't something you do to "shed fat", that's all I'll say about that, it's serious stuff and deserves it's due research before you attempt it.

That's too bad...I respect your opinion and would love to hear it.

I can understand why you wouldn't put it out there though...rough subject.

yep, lots of zealots, and I'm too tired today to have a full on science discussion (ahem) with someone. The information's out there though, I'll say this, ketosis is not something to be taken lightly, it does a number on human biochemistry. If I had to equate it to something, it's similar to changing the fuel type a car engine runs on, it may work, but that doesn't mean it's right (or wrong), it depends on the situation really. But there are definitely both drawbacks and benefits from it. For some it's the right way to go, for others, it's a dangerous and unnecessary change.