oohhh new study!! too much water is bad for u

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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    In time gone past eggs and milk have been so totally bad for you... now they've found that eggs have less cholesterol than previously believed.

    Actually, what they've found is that commercial eggs now have less cholesterol than they used to due to changes in diet fed chickens. Though you are correct that some reports classified eggs as a food to be avoided or limited due to the high amount of cholesterol for their size despite any scientific evidence that eating eggs raised blood choleserol levels.
  • jaseym6
    jaseym6 Posts: 12 Member
    considering that a larger percentage of our body is made up of water, you would have to drink like 4-5 gallons an hour for 4-5 hours straight.........i can't do that.....is it possible...maybe but you would have want to drink that much.....
  • kathrynkatana
    kathrynkatana Posts: 90 Member
    I love the conversation this article sparked. To be sure, that wasn't a study, it doesn't link to a study and is an article. So I agree with those who are being skeptical. The one thing to realize is even in a correctly run human study, human study are hard to do and often have wrong conclusion. There are moral issue on how far you can go in them. Take the example of cancer studies. They can't have a control in those, you wouldn't tell someone with cancer, you might get a sugar pill! So they don't, they use the standard level of care instead, which can lead to inaccurate results, but doesn't put any one in unnecessary danger. And some studies can be run by interest groups or worse off, are legitimacy studies interrupted by interest groups. That makes good science go under the bus because of politics. Another thing to take in considerations with studies is if you are not in the majority, it may not reflect for you. Studies are structured to be the average person most the time and if you have a certain condition or lifestyle, it may not work for you at all. To be sure, medical studies are good for us, they strengthen our knowledge and understanding about our bodies and health, even if they are not perfect. But the generally rule is talk to your doctor about it! There input would be more personal to your situation and not generalized to the entire country. :)

    Sorry for the rant. Just had to get that off my chest.
  • tladame
    tladame Posts: 465 Member
    @ frostiegurl - yes, the one I was talking about happened here in Sacramento. Not only was the radio station held liable, all the DJ's were fired. So sad for that poor woman trying to win a WII for her 3 kids. She left with a terrible headache and later died at the hospital. :frown:

    Sorry to go off topic here. I guess it's really up to the individual as to how much water they feel they need, taking into account things like kidney disease & other factors that affect your daily water intake. A good friend of mine just had a kidney transplant, and he is finally able to start drinking water again after being on dialysis for about 7 years. He's so happy!
  • Huskeryogi
    Huskeryogi Posts: 578 Member
    Well, here's my opinion. The clincher for me is that this a "new study". In my mind, one new study does not negate years of study showing the benefits of drinking water. Water is one of the only natural liquids that doesn't have a bunch of junk added to it. Our bodies are mostly made up of water. We need it. And I find that as I drink water, I want more water.

    I suppose if you are a person who sits all day and drinks copious amounts of water just for the sake of drinking water, you will probably have some unpleasant sife affects.

    If they did a study on North America, they'd probably find that the majority of people are dehydrated.

    What's funny is that no one talking about the benefits of water links to studies to prove it. Try to find one - cause I have.

    My 2 cents - water is important, but I don't believe we are already dehydrated when we start to drink it. I was following the 1oz of water for every 2 lbs of body weight but I've backed off to 6-8, 8ounces glasses a day (I drink when I'm thirsty). All food already has some water content. Fruits can be 80-90% water, lean meat 70%, so the average person gets about a liter (4, 8oz glasses) of hydration from their food.

    Yes anything in excess can be bad for you and the average American should probably be drinking more water, but I do think water needs have been overstated by the media.

    Study that shows we stay just as hydrated when we drink when thirsty instead of forcing water
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6514825?dopt=Abstract

    Study showing that beverage besides water are hydrating (the only beverage that has a net water loss is alcohol)
    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.full
  • Mommawarrior
    Mommawarrior Posts: 897 Member
    Anyone who thinks dehydration is a myth has obviously never been truly dehydrated. It is not a myth and I know from personal experience.
    I drink a gallon of water a day everyday, haven't died from it yet. Never get kidney infections or urinary tract infections. We need water. And anyone who is seriously into losing weight will do better if they drink mostly water. And anyone who seriously exercises should be drinking A LOT of water.
  • Mommawarrior
    Mommawarrior Posts: 897 Member
    Too much water is bad for you and can be lethal

    and do you have proof? Just sayin

    water toxicity
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

    Just for the record, anyone can put anything they want to on wikipedia. Anyone can edit anything they want to. I wouldn't trust wikipedia for any medical information.
  • bunchesonothing
    bunchesonothing Posts: 1,015 Member
    Too much water is bad for you and can be lethal

    and do you have proof? Just sayin

    water toxicity
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

    Just for the record, anyone can put anything they want to on wikipedia. Anyone can edit anything they want to. I wouldn't trust wikipedia for any medical information.

    http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blwaterintox.htm
    http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/water-intoxication.htm

    How about one from a .gov?
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1770067/
  • fangedneko
    fangedneko Posts: 133 Member
    That's why you check the references in the wikipedia article. Also, blatant POV and unsourced material and such gets removed fairly quickly from medical related articles, because so many people with knowledge of the subject matter have those articles in their watchlists.
  • bennettsd
    bennettsd Posts: 3
    Too much water is bad for you and can be lethal

    and do you have proof? Just sayin


    Lol! Maybe they mean "lethal" as in drowning?
  • bobbybdoe
    bobbybdoe Posts: 472 Member
    Truth : Anything above 18 glasses of water daily is potentially deadly. Water poisoning is a real thing.

    Also @Mommawarrior -- that's a myth haha. Try editing any page on Wikipedia right now. See how long it takes for it to be approved.
  • fangedneko
    fangedneko Posts: 133 Member
    Truth : Anything above 18 glasses of water daily is potentially deadly. Water poisoning is a real thing.

    Also @Mommawarrior -- that's a myth haha. Try editing any page on Wikipedia right now. See how long it takes for it to be approved.

    There is no approval system. The edits are posted immediately, unless the articles are locked (only when there are high levels of vandalism or when there's an edit war).
  • Heather75
    Heather75 Posts: 3,386 Member
    5 pages, huh? Okay.
  • Well i think it's pretty obvious that too much or too little can be bad for you.

    A few years ago there was a news report about a 35 year old woman who was doing either the lighter life or cambridge diet, i can't remember, but the kind where you are on about 400 cals per day given to you through shakes and you are supposed to drink 3 litres of water a day. She drank over 10 litres per day and as a result she died.

    However, a client of mine is also in her thirties. She is very fit and active. About a year ago she was in hospital as she was very ill. She was more or less unconscious for 48 hours and soaked in sweat. They didn't really find a cause at the time. Two months ago she had a stroke. The doctors diagnosed her as being dehydrated and losing too much salt. Apparently the previous episode was a warning. She is now, thankfully, fully recovered.

    We all have to be sensible and listen to our bodies. If anything seems wrong then consult a doctor. Look after yourselves x
  • Mommawarrior
    Mommawarrior Posts: 897 Member
    Truth : Anything above 18 glasses of water daily is potentially deadly. Water poisoning is a real thing.

    Also @Mommawarrior -- that's a myth haha. Try editing any page on Wikipedia right now. See how long it takes for it to be approved.

    Fact: I drink at least a gallon of water a day, most the time I drink more than that. Once I reach my gallon I stop keeping track, but I still drink, so I am sure I drink more than 144 oz. which is 18 8oz glasses. Still not dead.

    Fact: Took me all of about 10 seconds to get my edit approved. Don't think it is a myth, when I just editing something.
  • Mindful_Trent
    Mindful_Trent Posts: 3,954 Member
    Truth : Anything above 18 glasses of water daily is potentially deadly.

    This is absolutely false. As other people have pointed out, the key is to spread water out over a longer period of time. Drinking 18 glasses in 2 hours - yeah, probably not a good idea. Drinking as much as you can for a stupid radio show contest? Bad idea. Drinking 1-2 cups an hour over a 16 hour period... not a big deal. Plenty of people drink upwards of 100, 120 or even 150 oz. or more a day and they're perfectly fine. Just don't drink it all at once! Do you NEED to drink that much? Definitely not. But is it harmful? Only if you drink too much too fast or if your kidneys don't work properly.
  • sevencallmemom
    sevencallmemom Posts: 505 Member
    Is this thread making anyone else thirsty? LOL I've reached for my water bottle at least 3 times since page 2.
  • bobbybdoe
    bobbybdoe Posts: 472 Member
    Truth : Anything above 18 glasses of water daily is potentially deadly.

    This is absolutely false. As other people have pointed out, the key is to spread water out over a longer period of time. Drinking 18 glasses in 2 hours - yeah, probably not a good idea. Drinking as much as you can for a stupid radio show contest? Bad idea. Drinking 1-2 cups an hour over a 16 hour period... not a big deal. Plenty of people drink upwards of 100, 120 or even 150 oz. or more a day and they're perfectly fine. Just don't drink it all at once! Do you NEED to drink that much? Definitely not. But is it harmful? Only if you drink too much too fast or if your kidneys don't work properly.

    Yeah sorry. Correction : In a short amount of time.
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    i guess the Grateful Dead were wrong when they said "too much of everything is just enough"
  • Twasney
    Twasney Posts: 186 Member
    I GOT IT
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    Hey Kappy...I think most people were just responding to the comment as they came across it (as I did as well) and didn't see you had apologized (not that this was warranted) when they did!

    I am sorry if you felt ganged up on. I know I didn't mean to make you feel that way!

    T
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    It's all good! It's been a horrible Monday at work (I"M STRESSING OUT) and I took it out on you guys. Sorry about that. :embarassed: :flowerforyou:
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    I hear ya! Monday's are always crazy around here too. I hope it gets better for you <HUGZ>
  • Twasney
    Twasney Posts: 186 Member
    I love the conversation this article sparked. To be sure, that wasn't a study, it doesn't link to a study and is an article. So I agree with those who are being skeptical. The one thing to realize is even in a correctly run human study, human study are hard to do and often have wrong conclusion. There are moral issue on how far you can go in them. Take the example of cancer studies. They can't have a control in those, you wouldn't tell someone with cancer, you might get a sugar pill! So they don't, they use the standard level of care instead, which can lead to inaccurate results, but doesn't put any one in unnecessary danger. And some studies can be run by interest groups or worse off, are legitimacy studies interrupted by interest groups. That makes good science go under the bus because of politics. Another thing to take in considerations with studies is if you are not in the majority, it may not reflect for you. Studies are structured to be the average person most the time and if you have a certain condition or lifestyle, it may not work for you at all. To be sure, medical studies are good for us, they strengthen our knowledge and understanding about our bodies and health, even if they are not perfect. But the generally rule is talk to your doctor about it! There input would be more personal to your situation and not generalized to the entire country. :)

    Sorry for the rant. Just had to get that off my chest.

    Excellent Point!
  • Twasney
    Twasney Posts: 186 Member
    Is this thread making anyone else thirsty? LOL I've reached for my water bottle at least 3 times since page 2.

    YUP!!
  • kklindsey
    kklindsey Posts: 382 Member
    I trust mother nature! When I'm thirsty, I drink. Wow. What a concept! I've never had a problem dehydrating.

    This. totally. No reason to force feed myself water. Lost plenty of weight without it.
  • greeneyed84
    greeneyed84 Posts: 427 Member
    Found this & thought of this post:

    http://www.ehow.com/about_6310167_drinking-seawater-kill-faster-non_seawater_.html




    Water Intoxication

    Fresh water is only dangerous in very large quantities.

    Fresh water can also disturb the balance of substances inside and outside the cells, but only in very large quantities. This condition is known as hypoatremia, or water intoxication. Though too much salt is deadly, the body does require some salt to survive. Large amounts of fresh water will flush too much salt outside the body.

    Hypoatremia Effects

    Symptoms include nausea, slurred speech, disorientation and muscle cramps. In extreme cases water intoxication causes seizures, coma, brain damage and death.

    Considerations

    Water intoxication is rare. It is important to provide your body with enough water each day---don't let fear of water intoxication cause you to dehydrate yourself. Water intoxication most commonly affects athletes who have lost salt through sweat. Drinking seawater is dangerous. Swallowing a little seawater at the beach will not kill you, but you should never deliberately drink salt water.
  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    This thread is TL;DR.

    However, this is the biggest load of BS i've ever read.

    Flush bacteria out of your kidney's?!?! HHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

    To the author of the article:
    what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    If you had bacteria in your kidneys you'd be in big trouble and have a massive kidney infection. Drinking water wouldn't help you.
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