Calories burned while grocery shopping

davert123

I don't think so, regular activity like that is already part of your TDEE.

I am inclined to believe your answer as it seems like you know your stuff and that you know what you are talking about simply because of the skill with which you wear your swimwear.

Agree, we have finally encountered a true expert. Masterful use of spot color, too. I'm sold.

your actual TDEE is how many calories you really burn so everything you do from shopping to sleeping forms part of it.
The value set in MFP used to calculate your daily requirements is based on a guess of how many calories you will burn in a day . This is derived from a formula which gives a population average resting calorie burn + a population average burn based on the guess of lifestyle you put in. For me I put sedentary and the MFP value is only a couple hundred over the value I would use if I was in bed. When I do this almost any activity is addition to this. I could book a more energy consuming lifestyle but that doesn't seem as accurate as putting the lowest and then adding everything. These numbers are only ever guesses though. I check mine by plotting my weight and ensuring that over time (monthly) the drop is what MFP predicts. I can then tweak what I add or not to the daily usage to fine tune it. This works. I've kept a constant 2lb a week loss for nearly 4 months :-)

Cheeky_and_Geeky

Ok so this what I think about not logging daily activities. I was doing Zumba 60min 3X week, strength training sessions 2X week, Tabata once a week, etc etc & still fat. Why? Because I was eating fast food twice a day & eating too many sweets. So those activities don't count?

Now I eat less & count most daily activities that I do. Under cardio in the diary, there's one that says Pushing Stroller & I use that one for pushing the shopping cart. I think it's the same as 2 mph walk. But it all depends on how many calories your eating now. I set mine as sedetary, count everything that I do (housework, etc) and eat all my calories back. I don't have a normal day to day schedule & this works for me. Good luck

teamAmelia

No. How much walking are you really doing? Most of the time, I walk down the aisle and stand there for a few seconds to find what I'm looking for, walk a few more feet, repeat. Not worth the time to calculate it.

Katsumii

I don't think so, regular activity like that is already part of your TDEE.

I am inclined to believe your answer as it seems like you know your stuff and that you know what you are talking about simply because of the skill with which you wear your swimwear.

Agree, we have finally encountered a true expert. Masterful use of spot color, too. I'm sold.

Nope, never claimed to be an expert, just giving my opinion like everyone else.

Mokey41

One of us doesn't understand what is included in the "sedentary" setting.

(...and it may be me.)

The basics of a sedentary setting:

Sleeping - 8 hours
Personal care (dressing, showering) - 1 hour
Eating - 1 hour
Cooking - 1 hour
Sitting (office work, selling produce, tending shop) - 8 hours
Driving car to/from work - 1 hour
General household work - 1 hour
Light leisure activities (watching TV, chatting) - 3 hours

Oh then is there a negative sedentary mode? B/c I don't work, and sometimes my husband cooks, and sometimes I don't even have to do the "light housework" it gets done by someone who is not me. Is there like a Negentary mode (negative sedentary)? Or a spa mode or something?

You're probably one of the people who can get away with eating at 100 calories over BMR then and does your husband have an unmarried brother hanging around?

Sabine_Stroehm

Ive worn my HRM while grocery shopping. Nothing wrong with that. A calorie burned is a calorie burned.
11/05 am (grocery shopping)
Total Time - 40 min
In Zone - 0 min
Avg HR - 97 bpm
Peak HR - 110 bpm
Calories Burned - 425

Im going to wear my HRM for a whole day just to se what amounts of calories I burn on a normal non workout day.

425 calories for 40 minutes shopping? That's what I burn running 5k.

LiftAllThePizzas

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

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Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

LiftAllThePizzas

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

Yessir. I used MFP's "swimming, moderate effort" for this one.

Although I have considered stuffing it in a ziploc bag. :laugh:

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I usually pop a Gu before roaming the aisles, and I bring a protein shake to chug after I put stuff like gallons of milk and potatoes in the cart. Every lil bit counts when you wanna lose weight and get totally jacked! Also, don't forget to hydrate.

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Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

Yessir. I used MFP's "swimming, moderate effort" for this one.

Although I have considered stuffing it in a ziploc bag. :laugh:

I logged my 5k race last week manually in runkeeper (as I didn't carry my phone in the race) which then synced w/ fitbit. When I reviewed the data, I initially thought that I had some remarkably consistent splits based on the fitbit data alone...until I realized that it was essentially a manual entry from runkeeper. Once I cleared the record, I could see that I was still really consistent, just not *as* consistent as I originally thought.

And yeah, I'd consider the waterproof bag too...except that the "step" count would be entirely irrelevant (at least until they add a swimming stroke setting).

LiftAllThePizzas

And yeah, I'd consider the waterproof bag too...except that the "step" count would be entirely irrelevant (at least until they add a swimming stroke setting).

I use the fitbit data to log my bike rides (I just let it calculate whatever it's going to calculate as if it thinks I'm running) and it has been reliable for that. I suspect that putting it on an ankle or wrist would produce a decent estimate. (Especially since when I swim I don't just do laps. I screw around the whole time with bursts of high activity here and there.)

loriq41

I do that too, but I never count that. Main reason for me is regardless how long the shopping is, it doesn't raise my heart rate enough to be consider counting. Just eat your other exercise calories (including gardening, cause I found out, with HRM, it does raise my heart rate when I'm digging around, etc)

Very wise! I often think people are looking for a way to eat more and not feel bad about it...ha ha...if you run a marathon once a year..count it...but walking to your car everyday for work for example..ummmmm no.

lilyplay

I work in cardiac rehab. Every activity has a MET level (a standardized level of stress that every activity has on the heart). Using the same logic, one can extrapolate that any activity burns calories regardless of whether you consider it an "exercise" or not. My understanding of this program (MFP) is that you need to most accurately log "calories in" vs "calories out". If you list yourself as sedentary where you are predominantly sitting for the majority of your day for work and leisure, and then get your 8hrs of sleep, you have correctly listed yourself on the lowest rung of the activity scale (except bed rest which they do not, to my knowledge, have as an option-but would be the most accurate level for many of my patients be it short or long term).
ANYTHING you do above and beyond that should be counted just like every single calorie- no matter how small the portion- even if it was "just a bite".
Giving yourself credit for those activities not only more accurately predicts your weight loss outcome, it encourages you to to do more of those "light activities" which can really add up encouraging you to "do" more. Harley Pasternak (a very pragmatic personal trainer) has written a great blog entry about this very subject for People Magazine Online. It details that the French maintain their comparatively lower BMI's because they do a whole lot more of these "little" activities than US citizens, and they burn as much as 1100 calories/day more by doing so (do read it yourself to check my facts-I'm paraphrasing from memory here).
Therefor, in my opinion, the only way to keep your input/output accurate is to count it ALL- regardless of whether or not your heart rate increase noticeably, you just started doing doing the shopping or have done it all your life or your whether your PLE (perceived level of exertion) hits the roof or barely registers- COUNT IT!.

Mirahs

I vote for counting it! I, too, have a sedentary job and shop once a month. I just logged less than the actual time spent. I log housework when I do it consistently, as well. I figure any movement is more than I usually do so what the heck! I found this and hope it helps!
http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/diet-fitness/information/20-everyday-activities-and-the-calories-they-burn.htm

2014FitnessJourney

I wouldn't count it. I try not to count anything unless it's actually a workout. I stay strict on myself.

margauxmilchen

https://www.fitday.com/webfit/burned/calories_burned_Food_shopping_with_grocery_cart.html

I shop about 3 hours every other Sunday...it certainly is a work out. if you go to fitday and enter your weight age and height it will give you caloric burn. I am always exhausted when I get home.

rmdlcook

weight watchers counts shopping an activity, because it is outside of your normal routine. They gave extra points for shopping, not as many as if you were walking for working out but some extra. So I think count it. The #1 plan in America can't be all wrong.

BrianSharpe

weight watchers counts shopping an activity, because it is outside of your normal routine. They gave extra points for shopping, not as many as if you were walking for working out but some extra. So I think count it. The #1 plan in America can't be all wrong.

Weight Watchers also doesn't count fruit.....considering that most people over-estimate caloric expenditure exercising and under-estimate intake this is almost guaranteed to end up as one of the zillion "Why am I not losing?" threads........

shellywilson752

I was woundering same thing!! I have 28 steps that lead down to my house an back up to my car. I made 10 -13 trips back and 4th I was sweating massive. i'm really wanting to know this too I t it should burn a great deal grocery shopping

nicsflyingcircus

Here's my fitbit data from today so far. I spent the morning mostly at the computer, an hour swimming (moderate effort but not constant or intense) and then went grocery shopping, drove home and made dinner.

Notice that I am burning about three times as any calories by simply being upright and standing/walking than I am when sitting around or driving. (I've been using the fitbit since January and it has been within a few percent of my TDEE.)

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So I burn about 100 extra calories in the process of grocery shopping or cooking a dinner, compared to what I would have by just sitting down the whole time. Whether you count your baseline as "sedentary" and add on those activities, or just adjust your TDEE upward assuming those activities are predictably a part of your routine, is totally up to you. But the important part is yes grocery shopping burns more calories than sitting around.

For clarity, your swimming burn is an estimate provided by fitbit for the manual entry...(unless you've figured out a way to wear it while swimming).

Yessir. I used MFP's "swimming, moderate effort" for this one.

Although I have considered stuffing it in a ziploc bag. :laugh:

I shove my fitbit in little 2*3 zip top baggies (2 of them!) when I go in the pool. Not to count swimming, but I want the steps I get, which can often be a fair bit as I play with the kids, chase or be chased, climb out, jump in, etc!

ETA: Also, I will often walk laps around the shallow end of our L-shaped pool. 30 steps a lap times 30-40 laps at a moderately brisk pace. It's an extra 900-1200 steps and with resistance too (the water is belly-button deep on me!) The kids think this is funny and the younger three (ie, all but the teenager) will often walk all or part of it with me.

martinel2099

I honestly don't record anything that I do unless I'm putting on my gym shorts to do it. If I do burn extra calories I chalk it up as an extra deficit. My personal preference.

If you wear a good pedometer that could be a good thing to do.

shellywilson752

whats MFP'S?? I see a lot of people writing that

nicsflyingcircus

whats MFP'S?? I see a lot of people writing that

My Fitness Pal's

dbmata

Calories burned while shopping? lulz.

Well, if you go to URM and start slinging 50# bags and boxes of produce for your restaurant? Sure.

magerum

I get up to go pee a lot during the work day. (I drink a lot of fluid, think a gallon+ of water plus 6 cups of coffee, 2-4 sodas and 2 montsters). So maybe 10 trips to the bathroom. Anyone got a cal count on that?

ETA: It's about 150 feet to the bathroom so that's 300 feet round trip.

DavPul

I get up to go pee a lot during the work day. (I drink a lot of fluid, think a gallon+ of water plus 6 cups of coffee, 2-4 sodas and 2 montsters). So maybe 10 trips to the bathroom. Anyone got a cal count on that?

ETA: It's about 150 feet to the bathroom so that's 300 feet round trip.

Unless you work at a grocery store this post is OFF TOPIC and I just reported you for hijacking. Please go start your own bathroom trip calories thread.

dbmata

Salty. AISLE 3.

tulips_and_tea

I was woundering same thing!! I have 28 steps that lead down to my house an back up to my car. I made 10 -13 trips back and 4th I was sweating massive. i'm really wanting to know this too I t it should burn a great deal grocery shopping

I admit I haven't read this whole thread because I find counting grocery shopping calories as laughable EXCEPT in your case! Yeah, that many stairs, that many trips, and that many bags?! That should count as something, IMHO.

dbmata

280 steps.

That's it? I'd be surprised if 200 calories.