Ladies who do pullups...
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What is kipping?
Kipping is where you kind of kick your body to get some momentum, taking the weight off your arms sort of, allowing you to lift slightly easier. Imagine if you were trying to climb up onto the bar like a fence...the motion you'd use is kipping.
Bet you could youtube it lol.0 -
What is kipping?
It's using your legs in a kick motion to give you momentum upward. Kinda like a vertical breakdancing inchworm.0 -
I do the assisted pull up machine....but a friend of mine dared each other to try pull ups on our own. I did 4 on the first set, 3 on second set and 2-3 on third set..... I was satisfied! Lol0
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I do the assisted pull up machine....but a friend of mine dared each other to try pull ups on our own. I did 4 on the first set, 3 on second set and 2-3 on third set..... I was satisfied! Lol
That's pretty good work!!0 -
I can do 2-3 of the chin up style ones on my door frame pull up bar. Took me a long time to get there. I still practice a few times a week to get my form better and better.
I was so happy the first time I did one all by myself!!0 -
Wow! I leave for a little bit and the ovaries show up in force... YAY! Sounds like I'm right on track
Foodfight247: Don't ever ever be self-conscious of strength training questions. Most guys assume we know nothing, so the fact you know enough to ask a question impresses the hell outta them. When you do ever get around to joining a gym, you'll get mad respect just for even venturing over to the weights section (aka The Dark Side for chicks). But Cris is right, bodyweight exercises will do just fine! I had my weights regimen for several months and couldn't do a pullup before I started into pushups and I would have NEVER gotten to pullups without pushups. No fancy schmancy gym required. He's also right about the number of reps (he explained quite well earlier). I do as much weight as I can handle for 6-10 reps. In fact, when I can do 3 sets of 10 fairly easily, it's time to increase the weight. I like my post-workout glass of water to shake as I lift it to my lips, lol.0 -
I like my post-workout glass of water to shake as I lift it to my lips, lol.
Amen lol...if this doesn't happen, you did it wrong =D.0 -
Cool! Got every bit of all that advice... Brilliant!
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I haven't read the entire thread yet but I wanted to thank everyone for the tips so far. Perfect timing on the post. We've got 10 pullups in our weekly challenge and I haven't done them since high school. I tried one at the local playground and pretty much just hung there for about 10 seconds. No audience, thankfully. I found a cheap pullup bar-it has the horizontal bar and grips that come toward you. I'm going to follow the articles at TNation (thanks for those!) but what grip position would it be easiest/best for me to start out with?
It'll probably be months before I can even do one real pullup but I will get there.0 -
I haven't read the entire thread yet but I wanted to thank everyone for the tips so far. Perfect timing on the post. We've got 10 pullups in our weekly challenge and I haven't done them since high school. I tried one at the local playground and pretty much just hung there for about 10 seconds. No audience, thankfully. I found a cheap pullup bar-it has the horizontal bar and grips that come toward you. I'm going to follow the articles at TNation (thanks for those!) but what grip position would it be easiest/best for me to start out with?
It'll probably be months before I can even do one real pullup but I will get there.
Probably a parallel grip with your thumbs pointed towards you. But I will say this, don't be discouraged..!!...you will likely be better off doing the negatives like we discussed above. I am strong, and even when I was overweight, I was still strong...and I could only do two to three pullups then...with crappy form. The negatives will build your strength and help you when you're ready to step up to the full version.0 -
Thanks! I won't be discouraged. 2 months ago I could barely manage 10 girly pushups in a row. Now I can do 30 full pushups with good form. Maybe not a lot for fit folks but huge for me. It just takes putting in the time and practice to make it happen.Probably a parallel grip with your thumbs pointed towards you. But I will say this, don't be discouraged..!!...you will likely be better off doing the negatives like we discussed above. I am strong, and even when I was overweight, I was still strong...and I could only do two to three pullups then...with crappy form. The negatives will build your strength and help you when you're ready to step up to the full version.0 -
This is the honest truth.. one thing that helped me is I bought a chin-up bar for home, one that hangs in the door way, and whenever I went into the other room I did a couple chin-ups or pull-ups as a cost of entry type thing. Never did any to total failure but would do reps all throughout the day everyday.0
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I put mine over the bathroom door. ....I might get a lot of practice if I follow that routine. 0
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I'm up to 20 chin ups and 10 pull ups. I can do three sets of each. My trainer had me start with a chair under one of my feet slightly in front of me. He'd make me do as many as I could without the chair then would pull it away just so my toe was on it for a little assistance until I didn't need it. It definitely took me a few months to do it on my own so don't get discouraged0
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Another way to help yourself complete reps is to use resistance bands. Hook the handles up on the bar, and put your feet in the middle of the band. The nice part is the bands represent a specific assisted-poundage, so if you need to double them up in the beginning, you know exactly how much help you are getting, and can systematically reduce the assisted poundage as well.0
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I put mine over the bathroom door. ....I might get a lot of practice if I follow that routine.
In all seriousness, yup it is a good idea.0 -
OK, I have ovaries, so I'm going to pipe in too! LOL ...
I use the counter balance pull up/dip machine at the gym (what's being called 'assisted pull up' - I called it that at the gym and was quickly corrected ...). I use all three grip variations and do a set of full hanging X 15 and then do them again stopping myself half way down mid-momentum (I have no door jams that will work with an at home version). My goal is to eventually get to where I can do at least 10 full hanging using each grip. When I am done however, my water bottle does indeed shake ... and my arms feel like jello
I also have moved from modified push ups to regular and then to walking push ups. I noticed as I got better doing those, my pull ups increased as well!0 -
I installed a door frame pull up bar awhile ago, but after a few weeks it wasn't really doing it for me anymore, so I got a wall mounted system that I love. Right now I can do 4-5 unassisted pull-ups, but I'm working really hard to increase that number. I'm also working on my push-ups and weights as well. I don't go to a gym so I'm only doing this stuff at home, I use just dumbbells, resistance bands and my pull-up bar and so far it's been enough. Pull-ups are amazing though, the feeling I had when I did my first unassisted one was pure joy. I think I'm the only girl I know with a pull-up bar installed her in bedroom and had to get rid of closets to install it.0
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Pull ups are the one thing I have never been able to succeed at and I am still trying to figure out why. Push-ups are successful for myself as well as other strength training. I have even flipped a 450lb. tire yet trying to do one pull up...forget about it. I have wrist issues which I have been told could be affecting my ability to do them but I don't buy it. I am switching to my boyfriend's gym once my current membership runs out. THey train for Ironman's and such so there is much more strength training challenges than at the current gym I am at. Hopefully once I have full access to that type of training everyday I will get better at them. But I do wonder...does anyone else on this thread think that weak wrists could be a culprit? I can only do so many push-ups before they hurt and then I have to switch to resting my hands on dumbbells or push up bars to keep my wrists neutral. Makes the push up tougher which I love, but I'm curious if pull ups don't keep my wrists fully neutral therefore affecting my performance? Any input would be appreciated!0
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I have ovaries!
I don't think I can do a pull up or a chin up. I haven't even tried since I was a kid.
However, I do have an awesome book. It's the "The Women's Health Big Book of Exercises". I highly recommend that you check it out from your local library. It has a whole chapter on lats. It suggests different modifications for pull ups. There is tons of strength training in there. It says it's written by some guy named Adam Campbell, but if you read through the credits, there is lots of estrogen that contributed to the book.
Personally, I don't have anything to do a pull up from, and I honestly am scared to try at this point, but I do plan on doing some pull overs this week and see how it goes.0 -
sufikitkat: your wrist issue sounds similar to my elbow issue. It's just a strength thing we gotta build up. MrBrown72 suggested earlier in the thread to rely on the assisted pullup machine to correct it over time But yeah, I get your meaning; when I was little and used to take gymnastics the instructors told my parents to wrap my wrists because they were "weak". 'Course, my genetics prohibited me from ever being a gymnast anyway :P 0
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The pull-up assist device can be a good thing but try doing without first.
a. Either do the jump up to the bar and pull as many times as you can and then finish off on the assist machine
b. Do as many as you can with and without a "kip" and then finish off with the assist machine.
The assist machine is good but it's still not exactly the same.0 -
LOL! Well, you DID title this "Ladies who do pullups". I'm only a wannabe. I've just been doing the assisted pullups with 85 pounds assistance. I'm hoping to work up to a real pullup by the time I reach goal weight. I haven't tried the band assist again yet, but I think I'm still too weak. I still feel a little shy about the negative pullups in the gym because my last attempt was so pathetic, but maybe I'll install a bar on my porch. Just trying to glean some tips and figure out exactly what kipping is.P.S. I'm seriously disappointed by the lack of ovaries on this thread.
ETA - sorry, I completely missed the second and third pages of this thread!0 -
Can I totally hijack this thread...I SO want to build up to a pull up...as I've never ever ever ever even been able to do a pushup let alone a pull up...so I'm still working on the small stuff!
(NB I broke my right wrist and a bone in that hand when I was about 15 (and they didn't realise for almost 4 weeks, they just thought it was sprained, and it took over 6 months of physio following this to get any kind of motion back in it etc etc.... so it's still a little weak when opening jars and pouring heavy saucepans and stuff...it's the bizarre movements and angles that do it...the wrist is fine when it's locked, but turning over tends to make it weak)
BUT ANYWAY, I am proud to say that I have progressed from hardly being able to do "lady" pressups (knees), to being able to do proper pressups with my feet together.
My brother challenged me to do pressups with my thumb and first finger of each hand making a diamond...and I couldn't do this...(it felt like my arms were at such a bizarre angle and I had no strength).....would you guys say this was the next logical step...and how do I strengthen whatever muscle it is to be able to do this...OR what else would you say was next....?
Thank you!!!0 -
Can I totally hijack this thread...I SO want to build up to a pull up...as I've never ever ever ever even been able to do a pushup let alone a pull up...so I'm still working on the small stuff!
(NB I broke my right wrist and a bone in that hand when I was about 15 (and they didn't realise for almost 4 weeks, they just thought it was sprained, and it took over 6 months of physio following this to get any kind of motion back in it etc etc.... so it's still a little weak when opening jars and pouring heavy saucepans and stuff...it's the bizarre movements and angles that do it...the wrist is fine when it's locked, but turning over tends to make it weak)
BUT ANYWAY, I am proud to say that I have progressed from hardly being able to do "lady" pressups (knees), to being able to do proper pressups with my feet together.
My brother challenged me to do pressups with my thumb and first finger of each hand making a diamond...and I couldn't do this...(it felt like my arms were at such a bizarre angle and I had no strength).....would you guys say this was the next logical step...and how do I strengthen whatever muscle it is to be able to do this...OR what else would you say was next....?
Thank you!!!
Heya!
On the diamond pushups...just start as wide as it takes to complete one...then slowly work towards bringing them in each workout. Improvements should come quickly =D. I hate them too, because my chest and biceps get in the way, shortening the range of motion drastically =p.0 -
I hate them too, because my chest and biceps get in the way, shortening the range of motion drastically =p.
*gives sad puppy face, pulls your head to her chest an begins stroking your hair*
Oh you poor, POOR thing! Bless your heart.
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I hate them too, because my chest and biceps get in the way, shortening the range of motion drastically =p.
*gives sad puppy face, pulls your head to her chest an begins stroking your hair*
Oh you poor, POOR thing! Bless your heart.
(LMFAO)
LOL, nice one.0 -
I hate them too, because my chest and biceps get in the way, shortening the range of motion drastically =p.
*gives sad puppy face, pulls your head to her chest an begins stroking your hair*
Oh you poor, POOR thing! Bless your heart.
(LMFAO)
LOL I knew there was a reason I loved ya =D.0 -
sufikitkat: your wrist issue sounds similar to my elbow issue. It's just a strength thing we gotta build up. MrBrown72 suggested earlier in the thread to rely on the assisted pullup machine to correct it over time But yeah, I get your meaning; when I was little and used to take gymnastics the instructors told my parents to wrap my wrists because they were "weak". 'Course, my genetics prohibited me from ever being a gymnast anyway :P
I actually was a cheerleader and injured my wrists several times from basing stunts. My ortho informed me I have fluid build up permanently in my right wrist (the one I hurt the most of course and use the most since I am righty) and if I feel pain to stop. He does not want me to have to have surgery, which happened to a couple girls I cheered with over time from not paying attention to the pain. So I don't necessarily think its weak wrists as much as it's that they have been through too much wear and tear and now I have to be careful. It's never an issue of strength when I stop push ups, its an issue of actual pain. That's why I wonder about keeping them neutral during pull ups, what's the best way to ensure that and if there's not a way to I guess I won't do them.0 -
sufikitkat: your wrist issue sounds similar to my elbow issue. It's just a strength thing we gotta build up. MrBrown72 suggested earlier in the thread to rely on the assisted pullup machine to correct it over time But yeah, I get your meaning; when I was little and used to take gymnastics the instructors told my parents to wrap my wrists because they were "weak". 'Course, my genetics prohibited me from ever being a gymnast anyway :P
I actually was a cheerleader and injured my wrists several times from basing stunts. My ortho informed me I have fluid build up permanently in my right wrist (the one I hurt the most of course and use the most since I am righty) and if I feel pain to stop. He does not want me to have to have surgery, which happened to a couple girls I cheered with over time from not paying attention to the pain. So I don't necessarily think its weak wrists as much as it's that they have been through too much wear and tear and now I have to be careful. It's never an issue of strength when I stop push ups, its an issue of actual pain. That's why I wonder about keeping them neutral during pull ups, what's the best way to ensure that and if there's not a way to I guess I won't do them.
Wrap them, honestly. I can't think of a time during pull ups where my wrists aren't neutral though...so I can't imagine it being an issue?0
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