The DEBUNKING thread.........myths that need to be trashed
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I see what you're saying about 2 miles walked vs 1 mile running... but in my experience I've found that I burn MORE calories when I run 1 mile than if I walk 2 miles.
I understand the theory behind it - but, in my experience running 1 mile is gonna burn a whole lot more calories than simply walking for 2 miles.0 -
If the distance it the goal, let's say 1 mile, whether you run it or walk it the calories burned is the SAME.
This definitely doesn't hold true for cycling: 10 miles at 15 mph burns less calories than cycling 10 miles at 18 mph. There is empirical proof of this in a number of places, not to mention my own experience with my heart rate monitor and numerous exercise calculators. Therefore, I don't see how it could hold true for walking or running.
He's referring to distance, not mph.
Cycle a mile at both and compare calories at the end.
I gave a distance: 10 miles. At two different paces. Same distance, different speed, which is what he was talking about.0 -
Heres one I liked...
"I don't want to bulk up, I just want to tone up!"
Uh, flex.
Say hello to your muscle.
Now, you can either leave it as it is and simply burn fat via cardio. Or you can do strength training, build the muscle up a bit, and burn off less fat to get it to show through.
There is so such thing as toning. You either build muscle and burn fat, or you simply burn fat. Be happy with what you have under there or go build more.0 -
Speed does play a factor in how many calories are burned. Think of a car. If moving the same amount of weight the same distance at any speed resulted in the same energy expended then you wouldn't get better gas mileage at different speeds. 60 or 120 mph and you'd burn exactly the same amount of gas in 100 miles? no, no you won't.
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I gave a distance: 10 miles. At two different paces. Same distance, different speed, which is what he was talking about.
Then you have to take into consideration that cycling on a stationary can include resistance- this can change the outcome.
Edited: plus, when you're cycling faster you're trying harder.
I think this goes off of the general assumption that the ratio to speed and effort is equal in both instances.0 -
wait did I read that right....you saying you burn as many calories walking the same distance as a run or did I confuse myself?
Is that based on the average that you burn about 100 calories a mile? I dont see where it make sense? I would think it would have to do with each individuals own body. I person who is heavier I could see them burning more calories or the same on a 1 mile walk vs a 1 mile run, they have more body and fat to move around. A person who is lighter I dont see them burning the same. The more fit you are any ways, the less you burn working out high intensity any way. I can run with my friend 3 miles and she is a very fit trainer and burns 200 calories vs my 400 burn so how does that factor into all this??0 -
An interesting paper on running efficiency vs walking efficiency
http://edulife.com.br/dados\Artigos\Educacao Fisica\Fisiologia do Exercicio%
5CEnergy%20expenditure%20of%20walking%20and%20running%20comparison%20with%
20prrediction%20equations.pdf
The physics of running vs walking is not as simple as weight * distance between the start and end point, you have to consider the efficiency of how you get between the two points which will include both the vertical distance travelled and (too a much smaller extent) such things as wind resistance.
Not everything in life is equivalent to a sphere in a vacuum0 -
saying running a mile and walking a mile burns the same number of calories is a very old school way of thinking an has been proven incorrect time and time again....0
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I entered walking 2.0 mph for 30min in the database and it said I would burn 91 calories, I entered in running a 6min mile for 6min (to equal the same 1 mile I entered for walking) and it said I would burn 116 calories. So really the difference isn't that huge (only 25 calories)! Thanks for the information, I learned something interesting today!
Err your math's a bit off. It would take 10 minutes of running at 6 mph to hit 1 mile traveled. at 6 minutes you'd be at .6 miles traveled. Which means that if you entered it as you said jogging at 6 mph would burn almost double the calories.
Speed does play a factor in how many calories are burned. Think of a car. If moving the same amount of weight the same distance at any speed resulted in the same energy expended then you wouldn't get better gas mileage at different speeds. 60 or 120 mph and you'd burn exactly the same amount of gas in 100 miles? no, no you won't.
I totally get the car thing!!
I walked 5 miles pushing my daughters stroller which is 15 lbs and then add her weight 32 took me an hour and a half and my HRM said I burned 980 calories......I can run the same 5 miles with out the stroller in 1 hour and burn 650 so I am totally sticking with it is not the same walk run burn the same! There are so many factors that it just doesnt make sense!! LOL0 -
saying running a mile and walking a mile burns the same number of calories is a very old school way of thinking an has been proven incorrect time and time again....
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saying running a mile and walking a mile burns the same number of calories is a very old school way of thinking an has been proven incorrect time and time again....
This.0 -
Love #1
When people justify not losing with "gaining muscle" :laugh:0 -
wait did I read that right....you saying you burn as many calories walking the same distance as a run or did I confuse myself?
What about net calories? I have read that, while its basically true that you will burn the same number of total calories regardless of whether you run or walk 1 mile, you will burn more net calories during the higher intensity workout. Aren't net calories more relevant to weight loss that total calories.0 -
Here is my problem with the post. You say that there are many giving advice that are based on myths. Please don't take this as personal but your statement that you have been a personal trainer and are certified means nothing on a forum. It is no different than the claim you started your thread with. So, why not provided some type of proof of your statements (some of which I agree with) from an outside source?
Sorry but there are many Americans that are obese. The point is that we need to do something...move.0 -
where do i start1. "YOU'RE BUILDING AND GAINING MUSCLE, THAT'S WHY THE SCALE IS MOVING"2. "YOU ARE BUILDING LONG LEAN MUSCLES"3. "I DON'T LIFT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET BULKY"4. "YOU CAN'T LOSE WEIGHT UNLESS YOU EXERCISE WITH AN ELEVATED HEART RATE"-
Does that make it effective? no
does that even make it a good idea? no
If you are going to commit to a weight loss program you have to understand it won't be comfortable if it is you are doing it wrong.
They use to talk about fat burning zone, your HR hits that point you are burning primarily fat, if you amp it up you burn more fat but you will also burn muscle. Its like this you burn more calories doing HIIT every other day opposite steady rate cardio every other day then you will doing steady cardio every day(3). You compare a 2 mile walk to a mile run. a mile run will not only burn more calories but will also increase your Resting Metabolic Rate... meaning you burn more during you exercise and will continue to burn more throughout your day.
Sources:
(1)http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/283/1/E154.short
(2)http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/endurance_and_hypertrophy_paradox
(3)http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/justin6.htm
(4) http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/0 -
Edited: plus, when you're cycling faster you're trying harder.
I think this goes off of the general assumption that the ratio to speed and effort is equal in both instances.
This is exactly my point: intensity is one of the variables in the equation, which the OP is suggesting should be left out entirely.0 -
I see what you're saying about 2 miles walked vs 1 mile running... but in my experience I've found that I burn MORE calories when I run 1 mile than if I walk 2 miles.
I understand the theory behind it - but, in my experience running 1 mile is gonna burn a whole lot more calories than simply walking for 2 miles.
Um. No I don't FEEL that way. I can read calories burned and it clearly shows if I go 1 mile running and 2 miles walking - I don't burn the same amount of calories. Not at all. I can run 1 mile and burn almost 200. If I walk 2 miles, I MIGHT burn 125. BIG difference.0 -
If the distance it the goal, let's say 1 mile, whether you run it or walk it the calories burned is the SAME.
This definitely doesn't hold true for cycling: 10 miles at 15 mph burns less calories than cycling 10 miles at 18 mph. There is empirical proof of this in a number of places, not to mention my own experience with my heart rate monitor and numerous exercise calculators. Therefore, I don't see how it could hold true for walking or running.0 -
Speed does play a factor in how many calories are burned. Think of a car. If moving the same amount of weight the same distance at any speed resulted in the same energy expended then you wouldn't get better gas mileage at different speeds. 60 or 120 mph and you'd burn exactly the same amount of gas in 100 miles? no, no you won't.
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So can several shorter walks be just as beneficial when it comes to overall health as one longer walk? Say, three 10-minute walks throughout the day vs. one 30-minute walk, or six 10-minute walks vs. an hour walk?0
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