Turkey Bacon is a LIE

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  • Myobi
    Myobi Posts: 129 Member
    Bacon for me is a treat. It's not something I eat every day, or even every week (or heck, I haven't had any bacon for well over a month). So if I eat bacon, it's the real bacon.
  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
    DK is correct.

    Jade, you must still be under the impression that high cholesterol is the cause of heart disease. Saturated fat is not the cause of clogged arteries. Please do your research before you try insulting someone.

    +1

    High cholesterol most certainly is a huge risk factor for getting heart disease. Consuming large amounts of processed meat also puts one at higher risk for heart disease and high cholesterol. And there are many things that can contribute to clogged arteries, a couple of those being cholesterol consumption and vitamin c deficiency.
  • Dkenny74
    Dkenny74 Posts: 26 Member
    I once read a report about how turkey bacon is most definitely NOT a better choice health-wise than the real thing. It specifically referred to the exhaustive list of additives and higher sodium content as the reason. So you are right. Turkey bacon IS a lie!!

    And real bacon is artery clogger. .. it takes the body 4 days to digest red meat and 2 for lean white meat such as chicken.

    Real Bacon does not clog arteries. It can be part of a healthy diet. Arteries in the us are clogged with manufactured fats from Vegetables.

    Hmm thanks for the enlightenment (insert severe sarcasm). . . . must come from the farmers association.com. . . Just like the gotta drink milk commercials by the beef association. . . what a joke. . . . .

    No not a joke. You have Sarcasm I have science. The lipid hypothesis was founded on junk science. Heart disease in our country is a result of Trans-fatty acids pushed by among others, the industry that brings us soy products.
  • Jade_Butterfly
    Jade_Butterfly Posts: 2,963 Member
    DK is correct.

    Jade, you must still be under the impression that high cholesterol is the cause of heart disease. Saturated fat is not the cause of clogged arteries. Please do your research before you try insulting someone.

    +1

    High cholesterol most certainly is a huge risk factor for getting heart disease. Consuming large amounts of processed meat also puts one at higher risk for heart disease and high cholesterol. And there are many things that can contribute to clogged arteries, a couple of those being cholesterol consumption and vitamin c deficiency.

    Yes. . .exactly why my dads MD told him to only eat lean meats. . . increase fiber etc. . . .I was not out to insult anyone. . . Just saying anything in moderation is fine, but beyond that. . you are looking at health problems down the road. .. Organic turkey bacon is much leaner and healthier to be putting in your body. .

    And is is a fact that it takes the body longer to process red meat than lean white meats. . .So what people choose to put in their bodies is up to them. ..
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    High cholesterol most certainly is a huge risk factor for getting heart disease. Consuming large amounts of processed meat also puts one at higher risk for heart disease and high cholesterol. And there are many things that can contribute to clogged arteries, a couple of those being cholesterol consumption and vitamin c deficiency.

    No... it's not. I will agree that processed meats are not good for you, but not because of cholesterol.

    Total cholesterol IS NOT a key indicator for heart disease. Even LDL isn't that strong of an indicator (there are more than one type of LDL). Your HDL and triglycerides are much stronger in predicting your risk.

    Your body needs cholesterol. When you have inflammation, your body uses cholesterol to repair where the inflammation occurs. If you have too much vLDL (and not enough HDL) in your body, these can get stuck and that's how you get "plaque" buildup.

    Edit: I'll stop trying to convince who ever doesn't believe. Not everything your doctor (or big pharma) says is 100% accurate. I just hope that this encourages you to do your own research and to question "common knowledge".
  • Dkenny74
    Dkenny74 Posts: 26 Member
    Of course the quality of bacon makes a difference. Un-cured vs cured, with or with out nitrates.
    I feel bad for bacon. It's kinda like the poor egg. Slandered by bad science.
  • Laurayinz
    Laurayinz Posts: 930 Member
    Yup, turkey bacon is processed floor scrapings basically. They tumble the bones, connective tissues, etc in a giant centrifuge thing that strips the bits and pieces off. It then gets mashed and ground together with some of the organs then washed in lye to disinfect it, then washed and rinsed again. Then formed into "bacon".
    OK, I think I just threw up a little. ack2.gif

    I've never bought turkey "bacon". I stick to either center cut or look for a very lean thick cut package. Also, a better way to cook it is to lay the strips on a broiler pan and bake it in the oven for about 20 minutes. Most of the grease will drip down through the slots. it also keeps it pretty flat. Then peel off each piece and lay it on a paper towel and blot off the excess.
  • crazynay96
    crazynay96 Posts: 99
    I only eat lois rich low sodium turkey bacon... I don't like regular bacon, never have - it upsets my stomach, greasy as heck and its nasty. must be your selection.
  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
    High cholesterol most certainly is a huge risk factor for getting heart disease. Consuming large amounts of processed meat also puts one at higher risk for heart disease and high cholesterol. And there are many things that can contribute to clogged arteries, a couple of those being cholesterol consumption and vitamin c deficiency.

    No... it's not. I will agree that processed meats are not good for you, but not because of cholesterol.

    Total cholesterol IS NOT a key indicator for heart disease. Even LDL isn't that strong of an indicator (there are more than one type of LDL). Your HDL and triglycerides are much stronger in predicting your risk.

    Your body needs cholesterol. When you have inflammation, your body uses cholesterol to repair where the inflammation occurs. If you have too much vLDL (and not enough HDL) in your body, these can get stuck and that's how you get "plaque" buildup.

    Edit: I'll stop trying to convince who ever doesn't believe. Not everything your doctor (or big pharma) says is 100% accurate. I just hope that this encourages you to do your own research and to question "common knowledge".

    Please give me links to research articles that show cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease, as well as some evidence that cholesterol from animal products is good for you.
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    Please give me links to research articles that show cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease, as well as some evidence that cholesterol from animal products is good for you.

    Here's a good start.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/08/10/making-sense-of-your-cholesterol-numbers.aspx
  • poisongirl6485
    poisongirl6485 Posts: 1,487 Member
    Oh geezus people, come on. If you're eating bacon once in a while as a treat, having the real thing isn't going to be harmful. if you're scarfing it down everyday, then yeah it's not going to be good for you. I personally think that refined sugars are much more harmful than animal fats but whatevs.

    Just eat what you want to eat, being nasty to others b/c of their choices isn't helpful at all.
  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
    Please give me links to research articles that show cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease, as well as some evidence that cholesterol from animal products is good for you.

    Here's a good start.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/08/10/making-sense-of-your-cholesterol-numbers.aspx

    1. Not a research article

    2. Can't really read it unless I have a subscription. I'd like to see the references. So maybe find me one in there you think is good evidence?
  • Jade_Butterfly
    Jade_Butterfly Posts: 2,963 Member
    I apologize if I came off as insulting. . . I truly only want to help others. . .I watched my father go through bypass surgery heart attack and a whole slew of health problems that were due largely to his diet.

    This is one of the reasons that I am training in health and nutrition as well as I am training to be a physical trainer. . In hopes that I can help to educate people before these problems become irreversable. . . Which with my dad there was a limited amount that we could do. .

    Here is a link that I think might explain it well. .

    http://women.webmd.com/guide/heart-healthy-diet
  • AlyRoseNYC
    AlyRoseNYC Posts: 1,075 Member
    Oh geezus people, come on. If you're eating bacon once in a while as a treat, having the real thing isn't going to be harmful. if you're scarfing it down everyday, then yeah it's not going to be good for you. I personally think that refined sugars are much more harmful than animal fats but whatevs.

    Just eat what you want to eat, being nasty to others b/c of their choices isn't helpful at all.
    This ^^^
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    Please give me links to research articles that show cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease, as well as some evidence that cholesterol from animal products is good for you.

    Here's a good start.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/08/10/making-sense-of-your-cholesterol-numbers.aspx

    1. Not a research article

    2. Can't really read it unless I have a subscription. I'd like to see the references. So maybe find me one in there you think is good evidence?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=evidence+of+high+cholesterol+causing+heart+disease
  • Snakey74
    Snakey74 Posts: 276 Member
    Greta, first it was the cake, and now the turkey bacon is a lie!
    (Sorry, I'm a nerd...)


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  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
    Please give me links to research articles that show cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease, as well as some evidence that cholesterol from animal products is good for you.

    Here's a good start.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/08/10/making-sense-of-your-cholesterol-numbers.aspx

    1. Not a research article

    2. Can't really read it unless I have a subscription. I'd like to see the references. So maybe find me one in there you think is good evidence?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=evidence+of+high+cholesterol+causing+heart+disease

    Yeah no ****, I could find all sorts of random web pages that claim it's a myth. I was looking for some sort of scholarly research articles, but perhaps because there aren't any out there, you don't really have any evidence.

    Everything that helps raise HDL cholesterol levels in the body can be found in plants. Meat is not a health food-- it provides nothing for us, nutritionally, that we can't get from plants. Frequent consumption of animal products (cholesterol) raises your risk of heart disease. Period.
  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
    Please give me links to research articles that show cholesterol is not a risk factor for heart disease, as well as some evidence that cholesterol from animal products is good for you.

    Here's a good start.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/08/10/making-sense-of-your-cholesterol-numbers.aspx

    1. Not a research article

    2. Can't really read it unless I have a subscription. I'd like to see the references. So maybe find me one in there you think is good evidence?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=evidence+of+high+cholesterol+causing+heart+disease

    Also,

    http://tinyurl.com/dz89tv

    The end.
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    Umad?! Do you still believe that the earth is the center of the universe? The moon is really a big block of cheese? Santa Claus?

    Agree to disagree. Enjoy taking your cholesterol reducing statins. =)
  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    But the turkey bacon is still there, existing and **** right? So the turkey bacon isn't a lie. You were just wrong.
  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
    Umad?! Do you still believe that the earth is the center of the universe? The moon is really a big block of cheese? Santa Claus?

    Agree to disagree. Enjoy taking your cholesterol reducing statins. =)

    If I ate as much animal protein as you do, I might be on those statins in another 40 years.
  • shannonkk
    shannonkk Posts: 192 Member
    Yup, turkey bacon is processed floor scrapings basically. They tumble the bones, connective tissues, etc in a giant centrifuge thing that strips the bits and pieces off. It then gets mashed and ground together with some of the organs then washed in lye to disinfect it, then washed and rinsed again. Then formed into "bacon".

    Actually it's much more involved but that's the Cliff notes of it. Nasty stuff. Stay away.
    bless your heart, you have cured me of my bacon fetish!!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Where I live I can get turkey bacon that has less fat and calories but I still think it is probably worse for me than regular bacon because there is no such thing as bacon on a turkey. Someone just took good healthy turkey meat and processed it beyond all recognition.
  • Jade_Butterfly
    Jade_Butterfly Posts: 2,963 Member
    Yup, turkey bacon is processed floor scrapings basically. They tumble the bones, connective tissues, etc in a giant centrifuge thing that strips the bits and pieces off. It then gets mashed and ground together with some of the organs then washed in lye to disinfect it, then washed and rinsed again. Then formed into "bacon".

    Actually it's much more involved but that's the Cliff notes of it. Nasty stuff. Stay away.
    bless your heart, you have cured me of my bacon fetish!!

    Well and if people read the book "Food Revolution" by John Robbins. .. who started Jamba juice because he refused to take over his fathers business because he saw the health problems that it caused his family growing up and that it was not promoting something healthy. . . You would probably rethink a lot of things when it comes to eating meat. . . .

    Fast Food Nation is also another eye opener. . Not saying that I have completely cut out meat yet. . . .but those books really give you cause to think about how our meat is provided. . to us. and how it is processed.
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
    I'm sorry, but citing to Mercola makes me go deaf.
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    Yup, turkey bacon is processed floor scrapings basically. They tumble the bones, connective tissues, etc in a giant centrifuge thing that strips the bits and pieces off. It then gets mashed and ground together with some of the organs then washed in lye to disinfect it, then washed and rinsed again. Then formed into "bacon".

    Actually it's much more involved but that's the Cliff notes of it. Nasty stuff. Stay away.
    bless your heart, you have cured me of my bacon fetish!!

    That processing is only done to turkey bacon, not real bacon so it shouldn't cure a fetish to real (and yummy) bacon! :)
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    DK is correct.

    Jade, you must still be under the impression that high cholesterol is the cause of heart disease. Saturated fat is not the cause of clogged arteries. Please do your research before you try insulting someone.

    +1

    +2
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
    I just like the taste of turkey bacon better! LOL I'm not so fond of pig bacon so even if turkey bacon is worse, I don't care...
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    Ok, how about this...

    hog bacon: delicious (for the people who like the taste)!
    turkey bacon: delicious (for the people who like the taste)!

    both can be found in reasonably clean versions, and both have nutritional merits.

    can we all shake hands and move on now? :flowerforyou:
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    I have come to the conclusion that turkey bacon is worse for you than pig bacon.

    Here's the thing. I live in a small town, with two small-ish grocery stores. Because of their size, they don't have much variety when it comes to labels, so MAYBE it's just the brand of turkey bacon available in this area that I find unhealthy. But according to the label, turkey bacon is the same amount of calories as regular bacon when you compare weight and serving size. In fact, in some brands it's actually 5-10 calories more. But it's not just about the calories. There are so many additional additives on the ingredient label for turkey bacon that it makes me highly suspicious. Furthermore, since I can never seem to keep my sodium level under my goal, I've been trying extra hard to find low sodium products. Much to my surprise, most regular bacon actually has a lower sodium count than turkey bacon. So, I've decided, unless someone has something brilliant to say about this, I'm going back to regular bacon.

    Just quit eating bacon period.

    Problem solved.
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