Salt or sugar: which is worse?

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  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Just a general question to prove that there is no link between fiber and fructose absorption. How do you explain honey? Honey has no fiber, it's mostly fructose, and it's healthy? If fiber is the sole thing that makes fructose healthy, how do you explain honey? Fiber does have a small effect on the digestive absorption rate of sugar overall, but that's actually glucose more than fructose. The only thing studies have proven about fructose absorption is that overall absorption levels are dependent on the amount of glucose in your digestive system at the time.

    This is why HFCS has been proven in study after study to behave identically to sucrose in the body, the amount of fructose absorbed is equal to the amount of glucose, the rest is eliminated. This also explains honey, as the human body only absorbs a relatively small amount of fructose when there isn't glucose present.

    The only thing scientists don't understand is why the glucose level effects the fructose absorption.
  • jtbaddison
    jtbaddison Posts: 134 Member
    Just a general question to prove that there is no link between fiber and fructose absorption. How do you explain honey? Honey has no fiber, it's mostly fructose, and it's healthy? If fiber is the sole thing that makes fructose healthy, how do you explain honey? Fiber does have a small effect on the digestive absorption rate of sugar overall, but that's actually glucose more than fructose. The only thing studies have proven about fructose absorption is that overall absorption levels are dependent on the amount of glucose in your digestive system at the time.

    This is why HFCS has been proven in study after study to behave identically to sucrose in the body, the amount of fructose absorbed is equal to the amount of glucose, the rest is eliminated. This also explains honey, as the human body only absorbs a relatively small amount of fructose when there isn't glucose present.

    The only thing scientists don't understand is why the glucose level effects the fructose absorption.
    I'm not aware of honey being healthful. I've heard of benefits for allergies, but that is not the honey, but rather the pollen and beeswax in unfiltered honey. Please give me a core benefit that could not be better performed by another food and I might be persuaded that honey is healthy.

    You would also need to provide the studies to me that fiber attenuates glucose absorpiton and not fructose absorption. My understanding is that dietary fiber aids in ALL sugar absorption. If I am in error, please show me. I have no knowledge regarding glucose levels and fructose absorption, so I won't pretend as if I do.
  • taem
    taem Posts: 495 Member
    Just a general question to prove that there is no link between fiber and fructose absorption. How do you explain honey? Honey has no fiber, it's mostly fructose, and it's healthy? If fiber is the sole thing that makes fructose healthy, how do you explain honey?

    Dr. Lustig replies to that by saying honey has bees. We were never meant to eat a lot of it because of its protectors. The other fruit is grapes to which he doesn't know.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    He doesn't know because there's no scientific basis for his theory.

    And honey has bees? We were never supposed to eat it? How does that explain it's health benefits? That doesn't explain anything. People have been eating honey for thousands of years. Thousands as in archaeologists have found sealed jars of honey in Egyptian Pharaohs' tombs. Before sugar was less expensive, honey was the main sweetener human beings used, along with sugar beets.
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