I need to sleep LESS !
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Would melatonin work for you? Do you ever drink any alcohol? I know that if I have even half a glass of wine at dinner then my sleep is off for the whole night. It will take me hours to fall asleep and then I am up at random times during the night. Same with caffeine. If I have caffeine after 9:00, then it is impossible for me to sleep before midnight, and I'm only talking about one small cup of coffee a day.
If you are truly having problems, go see a doc. If you don't like what they have to say, get a second opinion.
I have two littles at home. Sleeping in isn't an option for me at this point in time in my life. I just get up even though I feel like I've been hit by a truck some ams. About 20 minutes later I ususally feel good. But those first twenty minutes are tough. It helps if I get up and exercise first thing in the am.
On a different note, I am sorry that you feel some people are rude or attacking you. I think they are responding to your wording in your initial post. If you use the word lazy, then they will focus on that. Please don't get upset with people for going off of the information you have provided. They are just trying to motivate you.0 -
I'd try taking a sleeping pill at night.0
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some people are so rude on here!!! Theres no need she is just looking for some advice and would be better off without that!!!0
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I have always needed more sleep than most people. I would be thrilled to get 9 hours a night. Anything less, and it's so hard to get up. I've found if I at least get 7-8, then even though waking up is super hard, after about an hour, I'm alert. Anything less, and I'm just impossible. But more than 9 hours, and I am a bit more sluggish throughout the day. I have a friend who's happy with 5-6 hours a night. I wish. I could get a lot more done if I didn't need so much sleep.0
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Speaking as one who suffered from sleep apnea all my life until diagnosed 4 years ago, it is NOT just "lazy *kitten*" syndrome. When I had my sleep study done, they found that I stopped breathing 30 to 50 times per hour, each one lasting 15 to 40 secs. My blood oxygen levels dropped into the low 70's which is dangerous, to say the least. In other words, if I slept for 8 hours I was only breathing for about 4 to 5 of those hours....you figure it up. Not a good nights sleep. I rarely if ever dropped into REM sleep, which is where you get your rest.
After being diagnosed, and starting to use CPAP machine I now sleep for 6 to 7 hours a night and am RESTED....completely!!
GO SEE YOUR DOCTOR!!0 -
I think if depression had been mentioned in the first place, people would have been a lot more sensitive. The original post just kind of sounded like a teenager who was staying up late and oversleeping.0
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If that is the case, I would definitely agree with the other posters saying you need to see a specialist.
That detail would have helped stem back some of the negative comments....
LOL Uhhh no. Not being an a_sshole would've stemmed back the negative comments. She came on here asking for help. If she was happy in her "laziness" then she wouldn't have asked for help. The negative comments wouldn't have happened if negative people wouldn't have posted. It's that simple. Nothing she said or did warranted it. The nerve of you to insinuate so.0 -
If you have a iPhone, there's an app called 'sleep cycle alarm clock'
The Sleep Cycle alarm clock is a bio-alarm clock that analyzes your sleep patterns and wakes you when you are in the lightest sleep phase. Waking up in the lightest sleep phase feels like waking without an alarm clock - it is a natural way to wake up where you feel rested and relaxed.
Also a colleague of mine has M.E. or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and oversleeping was one aspect of it. I'm no doctor though but it might b worth a read up0 -
And Ellie, don't pay attention to some of the people on this site. I have found that a lot of people are thread junkies...they spend more time on the threads putting people down instead of actually helping solve a problem and give good information. I don't know if it's a lack of self esteem that makes them feel that they need to put someone down or if they are just straight up cocky. Either way, don't feed into it. I would just call them all *kitten* and be on my merry way. You wouldn't be asking for insight if you thought it was just a laziness problem.
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I think if depression had been mentioned in the first place, people would have been a lot more sensitive. The original post just kind of sounded like a teenager who was staying up late and oversleeping.
It didn't to me. If you read her OP and then looked at her profile to find out her age and then judged her accordingly, that's your issue. Most normal people take the OP at face value; she needed help sleeping less and asked for advice. Nothing more, nothing less.0 -
I think if depression had been mentioned in the first place, people would have been a lot more sensitive. The original post just kind of sounded like a teenager who was staying up late and oversleeping.
Yeh, sorry but it soundedl ike you just didn't want to get outta bed, so everyone who is getting angry and rude at the people answering it in that context is no better..... this is a friendly site no one means any harm, word ur posts a bit better and u wont feel attacked unnecessarily0 -
I've suffered with depression and insomnia most of my life, since high school. It would take me 2-3 hours to fall asleep, so instead of going to bed at midnight, knowing it would take so long, I'd go to bed at 9. Consistently. Because I knew I was a grouch if I didn't get enough sleep.
In the past, I've been on anti-depressants. One thing that docs sometimes prescribe with those for help sleeping is Trazodone. It's a mild anti-depressant that has a bad side effect - it makes you very sleepy. But it's great when taken before bed. Just don't take it unless you can devote a full 8 hours. (I learned this the hard way.)
My older brother has sleep apnea. They did a sleep study on him, and just like a previous poster, found he stopped breathing many times during the night, which woke him up. Not consciously but woke his body up so that he was not getting enough REM sleep. Your body needs that REM sleep to feel rested. He now sleeps with that CPAP machine and notices a world of difference.
So my advice is definitely get checked out by your doctor. But also go to bed earlier. Staying up until midnight when you know you have trouble sleeping is not a good idea. Other thing is watch your caffeine intake after 3pm. Perhaps avoiding exercise 2-3 hours before bedtime. These were some of the suggestions my own doctor made for my insomnia.0 -
Wow, I'm reading some of these threads and some of them are a little rude. There's no reason for that.
Sweetie, you really need to see a doctor and ask him to check your thyroid. If you are suffering from depression and are on meds, it might be your current meds that are stealing your energy away. They can probably switch you to a less potent and more stable medication to not only help you with your depression but give you energy.
It might also be your choice in meals before bedtime. Maybe you are eating too much or not enough. Maybe your sugar intake at dinner is too high. This is all something a doctor and dietician can help you figure out. I can relate to your post. I had the same issue and I started eating a light meal at night, drinking less water at night and taking a melatonin about 1 hour before I am ready for bed and it works. I hope this helps. Keep your chin up...but you really should see a doctor.0 -
I don't know very many people who consistently take 2-3 hours to fall asleep and then easily sleep for so many hours without refreshment who DO NOT have kind of medical issue. This is NOT the definition of laziness and her initial post DID sound like a cry for help out of frustration!
I didn't see your age, but I thing someone said you are 19? There are quite a few young people not long out of high school who come down with mononucleosis, which can affect your ability to wake up, though there are usually other symptoms. I have the EXACT same problem as you and have had it for years. We're working on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (which is associated with a virus and doesn't "cure"), depression (don't fee like facing stress), Epstein -Barre virus (from mono) and it messes up the adrenal glands which also makes me want to sleep through stressful events, anxiety (can't sleep at night because of worrying).....so, I have a lot of medication and a team of great doctors, so the past year, I have become a professional patient, working on all of these issues to get back to being me. I ignored it too many years and it got way out of hand.
So, sweetie, get help now! Find out what it is and don't let these sleep patterns ruin more of your health. Ignore the people who have no experience with this type of situation. Best to rule out the possible problems before creating more stress by chasing an alarm clock all over the house, or forcing yourself to get up and then feeling lousy all day. Let's hope you can get this all cleared up witih some medical help!!!
Let us know how it goes.0 -
For what it's worth, I never took your post as some lazy @$$ who wanted advice (or justification) for sleeping in all the time.
You need to go to your regular doctor and tell them what's going on. I agree with a previous post that you should keep a log so you can take the dr specific times you fall asleep and wake up, etc. They can give you an idea of what's going on. Most likely, they will give you a referal to a specialist who will run some tests and take care of you.
Good luck. Don't let douchebaggy people get you down. ((They're just trolling...))0 -
, although I get too lazy to get out of bed most of the time and will hear my alarm, wake up and reset the alarm for an hours time and just keep doing this.
Any advice?
She called herself lazy in the OP and not once mentioned deppression till later,so people are rude for saying dont be lazy:huh:0 -
It seems that almost every night I go to bed around the same time of midnight and get up at around 10-11. I know that this is not good for me, I always feel fatigued, very out-of-it and worn out. Although I know the amount of sleep I should be getting is only 7-7.5 hours for me to really be awake and alert, although I get too lazy to get out of bed most of the time and will hear my alarm, wake up and reset the alarm for an hours time and just keep doing this.
Any advice?
Are you actually able to fall asleep at midnight? Or do you tend to toss and turn a lot before falling asleep.
There are many sleeping disorders that can account for being unable to wake at a socially acceptable hour so its not necessarily laziness.
I would recommend seeing a sleep doctor and look into both Restless legs syndrome, Sleep apnea and circadian disorders like delayed sleep phase syndrome.
Good luck! I have delayed sleep phase syndrome myself and I spent years doing exactly what you described and thinking I was just socially inept and unable to conform. Come to find out I have a three hour delay to my natural body clock. Its definitely worth seeing a doctor for. Because if you actually have a sleeping disorder no amount of sleep hygiene will help, or if it does it'll work for a short while then resurface again.
Yes it usually takes me at least an hour or 2, or 3 to fall asleep, but other than this I also randomly wake up every few hours.
Try Melatonin.... It is an over the counter supplement that aids in the ability to fall asleep. Works wonders for me. Otherwise I lay in bed for hours on end thinking about everything I need to get done.0 -
Easy solution my dear no worries..
Step 1...
set alarm clock
Step 2
Go to sleep
Step 3
Hear alarm clock
Step 4
Get your lazy *kitten* out the bed..
There.....
Would it have been possible for you to be more *****y? Probably not. Get the stick out of your *kitten* honey.
Yeah its possible for me to be more ****ty totally!!! My whole thing is its up to said person to get up and get moving....If we continue to make excuses where the hell is that going to lead you....
Tough love baby ...... you or whomever doesn't like my tactics or opinions don't use them....0 -
I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.
To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!0 -
Obviously you're on here because you are dieting. Do you exercise regularly, take mutli vitamins? If your daily schedule has flexibility to sleep most of the morning, maybe try changing your routine to a morning workout? This might help level out your endorphins which should help your sleep patterns. Then again, working out at night might help you get to sleep easier (you need to find what works for you). Since your food diary isn’t public its hard to make suggestions, but maybe you’re not eating the right things to give you the energy that you need as well. Start with analyzing your food and exercise patterns to see if maybe you're doing something that's causing you to be so fatigued.
Maybe its something you can fix by making a few changes in your daily habits. If that doesn't help, see a doctor...perhaps its something as simple as a vitamin deficiency that can be adjusted easily.0 -
probably wise to have a check up with your gp, rule out thyroid problems perhaps....
Possibly it's the lazy gland.
Make plans, set an alarm and get up.
ew. maybe you have a problem with your miserable witch gland.
and honestly, if youre so damn good at everything, why did you gain weight in the first place? i mean, you shouldve just set an alarm to go to the gym and stopped stuffing your face.
youre flawed too, honey. get right.
Yes I am flawed, and I have no problem admitting it.
And yes I gained weight but you know what, I am losing it- that is why I am here is it not? Did you not gain weight as well, or why else are you here?
And why I gained weight was actually due to quite a few medical reason "as well as stuffing my face" but I have always exercised, my eating habits/tablets/back injury just did not help.0 -
Im quite surprised by how rude some people are being on here. Ok, the original post doesn't make it clear, but the op has stated, a couple of replies along that she suffers from depression and other issues. Sleep problems are a major part of depression, it doesn't make a difference if people tell you to stop being lazy and get up.
I suffer from depression - which is thankfully under control right now - and when it was really bad and i was signed off work, i would get woken up in the morning, get up and go downstairs and do a couple of bits, then i'd sleep maybe 5 or 6 hours in the day. Its a symptom, and it can't be helped by people calling you lazy, or telling you you lack motivation.
These posts are the opposite of helpful.
Ellie, i understand where you're coming from, i had issues similar to yours. You should definately consider seeing a sleep therapist and possibly asking your GP to refer you for some counselling. Are you on anti depressants? Some times they can be pretty helpful. I hope that the minority of people being rude doesn't put you off asking for help in the future. Thats a big and important step for people suffering depression. Keep doing what you're doing 0 -
It seems that almost every night I go to bed around the same time of midnight and get up at around 10-11. I know that this is not good for me, I always feel fatigued, very out-of-it and worn out. Although I know the amount of sleep I should be getting is only 7-7.5 hours for me to really be awake and alert, although I get too lazy to get out of bed most of the time and will hear my alarm, wake up and reset the alarm for an hours time and just keep doing this.
Any advice?
Are you actually able to fall asleep at midnight? Or do you tend to toss and turn a lot before falling asleep.
There are many sleeping disorders that can account for being unable to wake at a socially acceptable hour so its not necessarily laziness.
I would recommend seeing a sleep doctor and look into both Restless legs syndrome, Sleep apnea and circadian disorders like delayed sleep phase syndrome.
Good luck! I have delayed sleep phase syndrome myself and I spent years doing exactly what you described and thinking I was just socially inept and unable to conform. Come to find out I have a three hour delay to my natural body clock. Its definitely worth seeing a doctor for. Because if you actually have a sleeping disorder no amount of sleep hygiene will help, or if it does it'll work for a short while then resurface again.
Yes it usually takes me at least an hour or 2, or 3 to fall asleep, but other than this I also randomly wake up every few hours.
Try Melatonin.... It is an over the counter supplement that aids in the ability to fall asleep. Works wonders for me. Otherwise I lay in bed for hours on end thinking about everything I need to get done.
As helpful as melatonin can be for some people, at the proper dosage, which mind you is usually 10 times less then most OTC melatonin, please see a doctor first.
I would recommend first seeing your GP, keep a sleep log of your times you go to bed, and log in the morning how long it took you to get to sleep along with how you feel physically and emotionally.
Your GP should at that point refer you to a sleep specialist, they'll go over your log and more then likely have you stay over for a sleep study. Be honest with your GP and the Sleep Specialist but be firm with them that you want to explore the possibilities.
While depression could be the cause of the sleeping issues, it often makes it hard for people to fall asleep and feel rested, it could also be a symptom of having a sleep disorder. As even the person who had sleep apnea mentioned its pretty horrible feeling stigmatized for something you can't control never mind what sleep deficiency does to your mind.0 -
I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.
To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!
Honestly, if you had mentioned depression at all and not just laziness my comment would have been to discuss this with the doctor who has already been working with you and meds.
This is the "motivation" section and people do come here for a kick in the pants when they need it.
I find it hilarious all the people name calling us who were offering exactly that when the only information we had to go on is what was in your original post - which is that you were lazy and kept hitting snooze.
So, yes, talk to the doctor who's care you are already under..0 -
I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.
To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!
How is telling you to not be lazy when YOU said I dont get up because im lazy rude?
It seems a pretty reasonable answer to what you yourself said.You do not need a degree in english to know the diffrence between the word lazy and deppression.You seem a wee bit on the sensitive side0 -
Ok, I really don't mean for this to sound mean, at all! I have noticed for myself that when I go to bed that late that I just want to sleep all day! So my fix for me was to go to bed at a reasonable hour and then I actually felt like getting up the next day. I am one of those people who actually NEEDS 9-10 hours a night or I eventually can't function. So I go to bed around 9:30 or so and then I am able to get up earlier.
Now, my twin sister has found the same thing. Only instead of trying what I did she continually goes to bed at midnight and wakes up a million times a night and then sleeps till noon. She won't listen to me and doesn't get why she always feels like crap. Well, she needs to go to bed at a reasonable hour. She then tells me "well I'm not tired". Ok, what does she do all day? She sits and works on her computer and doesn't get more than 30 minutes of excercise. There's her problem. She also eats and drinks right up untill bedtime while she watches tv. If she was more active durring the day she'd actually be tired. There however is NO convincing her that it's such and easy solution. Nope, she thinks she needs a sleeping pill, or there is something actually wrong with her.
This is my personal experience, just because it works for me doesn't mean it will for you, but maybe it can help you.0 -
Easy solution my dear no worries..
Step 1...
set alarm clock
Step 2
Go to sleep
Step 3
Hear alarm clock
Step 4
Get your lazy *kitten* out the bed..
There.....
i'd get out of bed at any time for a piece of that hot *kitten*. *muah*0 -
Have your doctor check your vitamin D levels. I started taking a D supplement and it has made a World of difference in my energy levels! (simple blood test)
PM me if you want to know the specific brand, cos I wholeheartedly believe in the product
good luck.0 -
probably wise to have a check up with your gp, rule out thyroid problems perhaps....
Possibly it's the lazy gland.
Make plans, set an alarm and get up.
ew. maybe you have a problem with your miserable witch gland.
and honestly, if youre so damn good at everything, why did you gain weight in the first place? i mean, you shouldve just set an alarm to go to the gym and stopped stuffing your face.
youre flawed too, honey. get right.
Yes I am flawed, and I have no problem admitting it.
And yes I gained weight but you know what, I am losing it- that is why I am here is it not? Did you not gain weight as well, or why else are you here?
And why I gained weight was actually due to quite a few medical reason "as well as stuffing my face" but I have always exercised, my eating habits/tablets/back injury just did not help.
I don't think that quote was directed at you, actually.0 -
I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.
To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!
How is telling you to not be lazy when YOU said I dont get up because im lazy rude?
It seems a pretty reasonable answer to what you yourself said.You do not need a degree in english to know the diffrence between the word lazy and deppression.You seem a wee bit on the sensitive side
This. Exactly.
And those complaining about being rude, does being rude back make you any better? Didn't think so. If you're so much better then that, rise above it and don't respond. Common sense.0
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