I need to sleep LESS !

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  • lind3400
    lind3400 Posts: 557 Member
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    I think if depression had been mentioned in the first place, people would have been a lot more sensitive. The original post just kind of sounded like a teenager who was staying up late and oversleeping.

    Yeh, sorry but it soundedl ike you just didn't want to get outta bed, so everyone who is getting angry and rude at the people answering it in that context is no better..... this is a friendly site no one means any harm, word ur posts a bit better and u wont feel attacked unnecessarily
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
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    I've suffered with depression and insomnia most of my life, since high school. It would take me 2-3 hours to fall asleep, so instead of going to bed at midnight, knowing it would take so long, I'd go to bed at 9. Consistently. Because I knew I was a grouch if I didn't get enough sleep.

    In the past, I've been on anti-depressants. One thing that docs sometimes prescribe with those for help sleeping is Trazodone. It's a mild anti-depressant that has a bad side effect - it makes you very sleepy. But it's great when taken before bed. Just don't take it unless you can devote a full 8 hours. (I learned this the hard way.)

    My older brother has sleep apnea. They did a sleep study on him, and just like a previous poster, found he stopped breathing many times during the night, which woke him up. Not consciously but woke his body up so that he was not getting enough REM sleep. Your body needs that REM sleep to feel rested. He now sleeps with that CPAP machine and notices a world of difference.

    So my advice is definitely get checked out by your doctor. But also go to bed earlier. Staying up until midnight when you know you have trouble sleeping is not a good idea. Other thing is watch your caffeine intake after 3pm. Perhaps avoiding exercise 2-3 hours before bedtime. These were some of the suggestions my own doctor made for my insomnia.
  • audreanna76
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    Wow, I'm reading some of these threads and some of them are a little rude. There's no reason for that.
    Sweetie, you really need to see a doctor and ask him to check your thyroid. If you are suffering from depression and are on meds, it might be your current meds that are stealing your energy away. They can probably switch you to a less potent and more stable medication to not only help you with your depression but give you energy.
    It might also be your choice in meals before bedtime. Maybe you are eating too much or not enough. Maybe your sugar intake at dinner is too high. This is all something a doctor and dietician can help you figure out. I can relate to your post. I had the same issue and I started eating a light meal at night, drinking less water at night and taking a melatonin about 1 hour before I am ready for bed and it works. I hope this helps. Keep your chin up...but you really should see a doctor.
  • cownancy
    cownancy Posts: 291
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    I don't know very many people who consistently take 2-3 hours to fall asleep and then easily sleep for so many hours without refreshment who DO NOT have kind of medical issue. This is NOT the definition of laziness and her initial post DID sound like a cry for help out of frustration!

    I didn't see your age, but I thing someone said you are 19? There are quite a few young people not long out of high school who come down with mononucleosis, which can affect your ability to wake up, though there are usually other symptoms. I have the EXACT same problem as you and have had it for years. We're working on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (which is associated with a virus and doesn't "cure"), depression (don't fee like facing stress), Epstein -Barre virus (from mono) and it messes up the adrenal glands which also makes me want to sleep through stressful events, anxiety (can't sleep at night because of worrying).....so, I have a lot of medication and a team of great doctors, so the past year, I have become a professional patient, working on all of these issues to get back to being me. I ignored it too many years and it got way out of hand.

    So, sweetie, get help now! Find out what it is and don't let these sleep patterns ruin more of your health. Ignore the people who have no experience with this type of situation. Best to rule out the possible problems before creating more stress by chasing an alarm clock all over the house, or forcing yourself to get up and then feeling lousy all day. Let's hope you can get this all cleared up witih some medical help!!!

    Let us know how it goes.
  • peanut613
    peanut613 Posts: 438 Member
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    For what it's worth, I never took your post as some lazy @$$ who wanted advice (or justification) for sleeping in all the time.

    You need to go to your regular doctor and tell them what's going on. I agree with a previous post that you should keep a log so you can take the dr specific times you fall asleep and wake up, etc. They can give you an idea of what's going on. Most likely, they will give you a referal to a specialist who will run some tests and take care of you.

    Good luck. Don't let douchebaggy people get you down. ((They're just trolling...))
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    , although I get too lazy to get out of bed most of the time and will hear my alarm, wake up and reset the alarm for an hours time and just keep doing this.

    Any advice?

    She called herself lazy in the OP and not once mentioned deppression till later,so people are rude for saying dont be lazy:huh:
  • ShrinkingNinja
    ShrinkingNinja Posts: 460 Member
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    It seems that almost every night I go to bed around the same time of midnight and get up at around 10-11. I know that this is not good for me, I always feel fatigued, very out-of-it and worn out. Although I know the amount of sleep I should be getting is only 7-7.5 hours for me to really be awake and alert, although I get too lazy to get out of bed most of the time and will hear my alarm, wake up and reset the alarm for an hours time and just keep doing this.

    Any advice?

    Are you actually able to fall asleep at midnight? Or do you tend to toss and turn a lot before falling asleep.

    There are many sleeping disorders that can account for being unable to wake at a socially acceptable hour so its not necessarily laziness.

    I would recommend seeing a sleep doctor and look into both Restless legs syndrome, Sleep apnea and circadian disorders like delayed sleep phase syndrome.

    Good luck! I have delayed sleep phase syndrome myself and I spent years doing exactly what you described and thinking I was just socially inept and unable to conform. Come to find out I have a three hour delay to my natural body clock. Its definitely worth seeing a doctor for. Because if you actually have a sleeping disorder no amount of sleep hygiene will help, or if it does it'll work for a short while then resurface again.

    Yes it usually takes me at least an hour or 2, or 3 to fall asleep, but other than this I also randomly wake up every few hours.

    Try Melatonin.... It is an over the counter supplement that aids in the ability to fall asleep. Works wonders for me. Otherwise I lay in bed for hours on end thinking about everything I need to get done.
  • TheNewLK
    TheNewLK Posts: 933 Member
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    Easy solution my dear no worries..

    Step 1...

    set alarm clock

    Step 2

    Go to sleep

    Step 3

    Hear alarm clock

    Step 4

    Get your lazy *kitten* out the bed..


    There.....


    Would it have been possible for you to be more *****y? Probably not. Get the stick out of your *kitten* honey. :)

    Yeah its possible for me to be more ****ty totally!!! My whole thing is its up to said person to get up and get moving....If we continue to make excuses where the hell is that going to lead you....

    Tough love baby ...... you or whomever doesn't like my tactics or opinions don't use them....
  • BeautyFromPain
    BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
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    I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.

    To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
    P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
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    Obviously you're on here because you are dieting. Do you exercise regularly, take mutli vitamins? If your daily schedule has flexibility to sleep most of the morning, maybe try changing your routine to a morning workout? This might help level out your endorphins which should help your sleep patterns. Then again, working out at night might help you get to sleep easier (you need to find what works for you). Since your food diary isn’t public its hard to make suggestions, but maybe you’re not eating the right things to give you the energy that you need as well. Start with analyzing your food and exercise patterns to see if maybe you're doing something that's causing you to be so fatigued.

    Maybe its something you can fix by making a few changes in your daily habits. If that doesn't help, see a doctor...perhaps its something as simple as a vitamin deficiency that can be adjusted easily.
  • BeautyFromPain
    BeautyFromPain Posts: 4,952 Member
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    probably wise to have a check up with your gp, rule out thyroid problems perhaps....

    Possibly it's the lazy gland.

    Make plans, set an alarm and get up.

    ew. maybe you have a problem with your miserable witch gland.

    and honestly, if youre so damn good at everything, why did you gain weight in the first place? i mean, you shouldve just set an alarm to go to the gym and stopped stuffing your face.

    youre flawed too, honey. get right.

    Yes I am flawed, and I have no problem admitting it.
    And yes I gained weight but you know what, I am losing it- that is why I am here is it not? Did you not gain weight as well, or why else are you here?
    And why I gained weight was actually due to quite a few medical reason "as well as stuffing my face" but I have always exercised, my eating habits/tablets/back injury just did not help.
  • Charlottekd
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    Im quite surprised by how rude some people are being on here. Ok, the original post doesn't make it clear, but the op has stated, a couple of replies along that she suffers from depression and other issues. Sleep problems are a major part of depression, it doesn't make a difference if people tell you to stop being lazy and get up.
    I suffer from depression - which is thankfully under control right now - and when it was really bad and i was signed off work, i would get woken up in the morning, get up and go downstairs and do a couple of bits, then i'd sleep maybe 5 or 6 hours in the day. Its a symptom, and it can't be helped by people calling you lazy, or telling you you lack motivation.

    These posts are the opposite of helpful.

    Ellie, i understand where you're coming from, i had issues similar to yours. You should definately consider seeing a sleep therapist and possibly asking your GP to refer you for some counselling. Are you on anti depressants? Some times they can be pretty helpful. I hope that the minority of people being rude doesn't put you off asking for help in the future. Thats a big and important step for people suffering depression. Keep doing what you're doing :)
  • rankailie
    rankailie Posts: 144
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    It seems that almost every night I go to bed around the same time of midnight and get up at around 10-11. I know that this is not good for me, I always feel fatigued, very out-of-it and worn out. Although I know the amount of sleep I should be getting is only 7-7.5 hours for me to really be awake and alert, although I get too lazy to get out of bed most of the time and will hear my alarm, wake up and reset the alarm for an hours time and just keep doing this.

    Any advice?

    Are you actually able to fall asleep at midnight? Or do you tend to toss and turn a lot before falling asleep.

    There are many sleeping disorders that can account for being unable to wake at a socially acceptable hour so its not necessarily laziness.

    I would recommend seeing a sleep doctor and look into both Restless legs syndrome, Sleep apnea and circadian disorders like delayed sleep phase syndrome.

    Good luck! I have delayed sleep phase syndrome myself and I spent years doing exactly what you described and thinking I was just socially inept and unable to conform. Come to find out I have a three hour delay to my natural body clock. Its definitely worth seeing a doctor for. Because if you actually have a sleeping disorder no amount of sleep hygiene will help, or if it does it'll work for a short while then resurface again.

    Yes it usually takes me at least an hour or 2, or 3 to fall asleep, but other than this I also randomly wake up every few hours.

    Try Melatonin.... It is an over the counter supplement that aids in the ability to fall asleep. Works wonders for me. Otherwise I lay in bed for hours on end thinking about everything I need to get done.

    As helpful as melatonin can be for some people, at the proper dosage, which mind you is usually 10 times less then most OTC melatonin, please see a doctor first.

    I would recommend first seeing your GP, keep a sleep log of your times you go to bed, and log in the morning how long it took you to get to sleep along with how you feel physically and emotionally.

    Your GP should at that point refer you to a sleep specialist, they'll go over your log and more then likely have you stay over for a sleep study. Be honest with your GP and the Sleep Specialist but be firm with them that you want to explore the possibilities.

    While depression could be the cause of the sleeping issues, it often makes it hard for people to fall asleep and feel rested, it could also be a symptom of having a sleep disorder. As even the person who had sleep apnea mentioned its pretty horrible feeling stigmatized for something you can't control never mind what sleep deficiency does to your mind.
  • MrsCon40
    MrsCon40 Posts: 2,351 Member
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    I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.

    To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
    P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!

    Honestly, if you had mentioned depression at all and not just laziness my comment would have been to discuss this with the doctor who has already been working with you and meds.

    This is the "motivation" section and people do come here for a kick in the pants when they need it.

    I find it hilarious all the people name calling us who were offering exactly that when the only information we had to go on is what was in your original post - which is that you were lazy and kept hitting snooze.

    So, yes, talk to the doctor who's care you are already under..
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.

    To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
    P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!

    How is telling you to not be lazy when YOU said I dont get up because im lazy rude?
    It seems a pretty reasonable answer to what you yourself said.You do not need a degree in english to know the diffrence between the word lazy and deppression.You seem a wee bit on the sensitive side
  • ering
    ering Posts: 183 Member
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    Ok, I really don't mean for this to sound mean, at all! I have noticed for myself that when I go to bed that late that I just want to sleep all day! So my fix for me was to go to bed at a reasonable hour and then I actually felt like getting up the next day. I am one of those people who actually NEEDS 9-10 hours a night or I eventually can't function. So I go to bed around 9:30 or so and then I am able to get up earlier.

    Now, my twin sister has found the same thing. Only instead of trying what I did she continually goes to bed at midnight and wakes up a million times a night and then sleeps till noon. She won't listen to me and doesn't get why she always feels like crap. Well, she needs to go to bed at a reasonable hour. She then tells me "well I'm not tired". Ok, what does she do all day? She sits and works on her computer and doesn't get more than 30 minutes of excercise. There's her problem. She also eats and drinks right up untill bedtime while she watches tv. If she was more active durring the day she'd actually be tired. There however is NO convincing her that it's such and easy solution. Nope, she thinks she needs a sleeping pill, or there is something actually wrong with her.

    This is my personal experience, just because it works for me doesn't mean it will for you, but maybe it can help you.
  • yummy♥
    yummy♥ Posts: 612 Member
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    Easy solution my dear no worries..

    Step 1...

    set alarm clock

    Step 2

    Go to sleep

    Step 3

    Hear alarm clock

    Step 4

    Get your lazy *kitten* out the bed..


    There.....

    i'd get out of bed at any time for a piece of that hot *kitten*. *muah*
  • Lizzy_Sunflower
    Lizzy_Sunflower Posts: 1,510 Member
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    Have your doctor check your vitamin D levels. I started taking a D supplement and it has made a World of difference in my energy levels! (simple blood test)

    PM me if you want to know the specific brand, cos I wholeheartedly believe in the product

    good luck.
  • Heather75
    Heather75 Posts: 3,386 Member
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    probably wise to have a check up with your gp, rule out thyroid problems perhaps....

    Possibly it's the lazy gland.

    Make plans, set an alarm and get up.

    ew. maybe you have a problem with your miserable witch gland.

    and honestly, if youre so damn good at everything, why did you gain weight in the first place? i mean, you shouldve just set an alarm to go to the gym and stopped stuffing your face.

    youre flawed too, honey. get right.

    Yes I am flawed, and I have no problem admitting it.
    And yes I gained weight but you know what, I am losing it- that is why I am here is it not? Did you not gain weight as well, or why else are you here?
    And why I gained weight was actually due to quite a few medical reason "as well as stuffing my face" but I have always exercised, my eating habits/tablets/back injury just did not help.

    I don't think that quote was directed at you, actually.
  • Ashley_Panda
    Ashley_Panda Posts: 1,404 Member
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    I am sorry I did not word it any better - I do not have a degree in english. Sorry if I accidentally used the wrong word - although I do not see how that means that you people have to be so rude.

    To all the people who are being really sweet and giving actual answers - thankyou!
    P.S. I am not whining, I am trying to find a solution to this problem!

    How is telling you to not be lazy when YOU said I dont get up because im lazy rude?
    It seems a pretty reasonable answer to what you yourself said.You do not need a degree in english to know the diffrence between the word lazy and deppression.You seem a wee bit on the sensitive side

    This. Exactly.

    And those complaining about being rude, does being rude back make you any better? Didn't think so. If you're so much better then that, rise above it and don't respond. Common sense.
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