Sexism

Schwarzeaugen
Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
edited October 2024 in Chit-Chat
I love MFP, but there's something I love even more :D -- the wonderfully sexist gender divisions that people create on here [at times]. I don't care what pop psychological crap you've been reading or how little you understand population statistics: the differences between 'groups' are less than the differences within 'groups'. Men are not from Mars and women are not from Venus

SORRRYYYY FOR THE RAMBBBBLINNNNGGG
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  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.
  • thetorontokid2
    thetorontokid2 Posts: 231 Member
    WORD.
  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    You're writing your thesis, aren't you.
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    My annswer toi alll lifes problemms is to get drunk and watch....ummm...adult enterrtaiment videos
  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    My annswer toi alll lifes problemms is to get drunk and watch....ummm...adult enterrtaiment videos

    I'm inclined to agree with you.
  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    You're writing your thesis, aren't you.

    Yup.
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    This is why I like to give my 2 cents in every TOM thread that I can.
  • natskedat
    natskedat Posts: 570 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    Yikes! Talk about a sexist comment! Way to generalize, dude.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    This is why I like to give my 2 cents in every TOM thread that I can.

    *smoooooches*
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    You're writing your thesis, aren't you.

    Yup.

    I suddenly feel like a mouse in a maze...
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    Really? I find I have a lot more in common with the average woman than I do the average man. A woman understands hormonal rollercoasters (genetic), the woes of childbirth (genetic), the pressures of the media on self esteem (social), why finding the perfect bra matters, and the weight of decisions involving reproductive responsibility, such as abortion, birth control, and abstinence.

    These are not things I typically find men I am friends with to fully understand.
  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    Yikes! Talk about a sexist comment! Way to generalize, dude.

    What's sexist about it? I don't think you understand my point.
  • Becca_007
    Becca_007 Posts: 596 Member
    WORD.
    DR OW.
    I love MFP, but there's something I love even more :D -- the wonderfully sexist gender divisions that people create on here [at times]. I don't care what pop psychological crap you've been reading or how little you understand population statistics: the differences between 'groups' are less than the differences within 'groups'. Men are not from Mars and women are not from Venus

    SORRRYYYY FOR THE RAMBBBBLINNNNGGG
    Not knowing everyone one on here, I have no real way of knowing if some are from Mars and some are from Venus... I assume we have ppl from all over the Planets... this could hurt someone's feelings if any members are not Earthlings .....
  • Panda_Jack
    Panda_Jack Posts: 829 Member
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  • natskedat
    natskedat Posts: 570 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.

    Yikes! Talk about a sexist comment! Way to generalize, dude.

    What's sexist about it? I don't think you understand my point.

    I don't think you understand women.
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    The question remains... where the hell is my damn sammich?
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,307 Member
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  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    The question remains... where the hell is my damn sammich?


    I'm not barefoot, and the kitchen is .. .uhh ... *looking around* ... over there ...
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    The question remains... where the hell is my damn sammich?

    The cat ate it before the pancakes.

    He's a *kitten* from Jupiter.
  • Panda_Jack
    Panda_Jack Posts: 829 Member
    The question remains... where the hell is my damn sammich?

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  • thetorontokid2
    thetorontokid2 Posts: 231 Member
    I don't think you understand women.

    I'm his wife, and believe me, he understands women quite well. He's also waaaaaay more feminist than I could ever be and is all about breaking down stereotypical gender roles. He cooks and cleans and goes to school, I fix things around the house, take care of car maintenance and bills and go to work. I love it this way.
  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    I'm going to count this as internet research, and the good news is that I don't have to pay any of you! Thanks for your comments, particular the planetary ones. :::::::;DDDDDDDDDDDD
  • yummy♥
    yummy♥ Posts: 612 Member
    The question remains... where the hell is my damn sammich?

    i'll totally make you a sammich. 2TBSP right?
  • natskedat
    natskedat Posts: 570 Member
    I don't think you understand women.

    I'm his wife, and believe me, he understands women quite well. He's also waaaaaay more feminist than I could ever be and is all about breaking down stereotypical gender roles. He cooks and cleans and goes to school, I fix things around the house, take care of car maintenance and bills and go to work. I love it this way.

    The quote that I replied to implied that given any two women, they will have more differences between them than an entire group of men. Turning that around, men are more similar to each other than women are similar to each other. To me, that is a sexist comment because it's making a wildly general statement about each half of the world's population! Women are as different from each other as men are different from each other. Not all women want to nurture and be mothers. Not all men want to work on cars. Fine, so you deal with car maintenance and he cleans. It means that you've got a great partnership. But his original statement about women being more different from each other than men are different from each other illustrated a general lack of experience in life. At 24 years old (and I don't care how much education he's getting), I think I was spot on.
  • Becca_007
    Becca_007 Posts: 596 Member
    Disagree. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but I think there are some pretty definite differences between 'men' and 'women' in general. Not about everything, and not in every case, but they are definitely there. It's not sexism- it's social norms, genetics, upbringing, age, culture and probably a little science too.

    Of course there are differences, although I would argue they are socially constructed, but my point is that there are greater differences between any two women than between men in general.
    not agreeing, not disagreeing, simply curious how you've come to the above conclusion about Earthlings..
  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    It's that's what you took from my statement, I'm sorry I phrased it in such a way that it came across that way. If that's what I had intended, then it really would have been a super sexist thing to say. I guess the better way of phrasing it would be: there are greater differences between individuals than between 'groups'. Sorry you took it the wrong way :D.
  • natskedat
    natskedat Posts: 570 Member
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  • Schwarzeaugen
    Schwarzeaugen Posts: 129 Member
    Don't got it.
  • jetscreaminagain
    jetscreaminagain Posts: 1,130 Member
    Well I agree with you that as an individual woman I can think of several individual women who seem completely different from me while it seems like men on general aren't as weird as those outlier women seem. I acknowledge that it is probably me that is the outlier.

    As far as gender studies goes and the pressure to remain well within the bounds of one's assigned gender, I heartily recommend "whipping girl: a transsexual woman on feminism ..." and several other things in the subtitle. It will blow your mind on several levels but gender difference and the need of certain cisexuals to enforce gender roles in a strict way was one of the ways my mind was blown. As an example, we could lay bets on how many heterosexual men wonder if I used to be a dude if I read a book like that. And then imagina conversation a group of men or women might have if they were in the same room and needed to discharge their discomfort with their ow life choices as influenced or constrained by gender roles. This gets us close to understanding why transsexual women are particularly vulnerable to violence particularly from heterosexual men
    But I digress. And no. I was never a dude.

    No. I'm not working on my thesis. I already have my master's degree.
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