Isagenix?

ChristieisReady
ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
edited October 12 in Food and Nutrition
So, a freind of mine at the gym wastelling me that she does Isagenix and that it has CHANGED HER LIFE. She sells it now. But, her skin does look amazing, and she has lost quite a bit of weight. Anyone have any experience with this or similar cleanses?

It's *expensive*, so I can't just "give it a whirl" like slimfast or whey protein. Plus, anything that takes so long to convince me of what my problem is in the video sets my spidey-senses tingling.

Thoughts?
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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    So someone trying to sell you something tells you the product is life changing and the best ever? interesting...
  • lvnspoonful
    lvnspoonful Posts: 391 Member
    Never heard of it....
  • STOOOOP!
    dont buy stuff like that?
    Do you really need it?
    I mean, why not do it the old fashion way...diet and exercise.
    Lets see....
    Nutritional cleansing=eat tons of fruits and veggies, avoid FRIED and FAST FOODS.
    cellular replenishing and youthful aging=everyday multivitamins

    problem solved!
  • jperrysunlover
    jperrysunlover Posts: 96 Member
    I am an Isagenix fan. I love the shakes and the supplements. The fasting diet is really good to your body and I wasn't starving. It is expensive, so I use it before a beach vacation or a special occasion if I want to cleanse and drop about 5-9 lbs.

    This is a great product to use if you have colon or gastrointestinal issues and can't handle lots of veggies, fruits or seeds without an issue. I had colon cancer so it's a good fit for me.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    Holy Cow! When you said not cheap! $380 for 30 days? Think of how much beautiful produce you could buy for that amount? I am sure you could change your diet to get more of the nutrients you need to get healthier looking skin and weight loss.
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    Yeah, I kinda think that for the money, it might be a better plan just to buy a juicer and go on a veggie juice "cleanse".

    If I really need a cleanse. I mean, that's sort of what my perfectly functioning liver and kidneys and colon are for, no?

    So... with a lead stomach (which I have) maybe just veggie loading for a few days is a better plan? I mean, they cry about hte pesticides in vegetables, but I'm sure there's plenty of random crap in their stuff as well.

    And before you say it, no, I cannot grow my own veggies. I live in an apartment and am the plant world's version of Charles Manson. (Except I feel bad about it).
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Yeah, I kinda think that for the money, it might be a better plan just to buy a juicer and go on a veggie juice "cleanse".

    If I really need a cleanse. I mean, that's sort of what my perfectly functioning liver and kidneys and colon are for, no?

    So... with a lead stomach (which I have) maybe just veggie loading for a few days is a better plan? I mean, they cry about hte pesticides in vegetables, but I'm sure there's plenty of random crap in their stuff as well.

    And before you say it, no, I cannot grow my own veggies. I live in an apartment and am the plant world's version of Charles Manson. (Except I feel bad about it).

    :laugh:
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    Cari-Lee:

    I don't buy it. If all of our soil and air is toxic (which, to be fair, may be true enough), where is Isagenix getting their toxin-free ingredients? What am I eating? What are these real ingredients? It all seems a bit Soylent Green to me.

    I'm also a bit bothered by the fact that people don't just want me to buy the product, they want me to sell the product. I have a job. I don't want to sell magic potions. I'd like to get the crap out of my system, but given that hte first few minutes of the video were devoted to tellng me that my house, food, and clothes are toxic, I'm just not seeing how a shake is going to manage that.

    Because, you see, I'm going to drink it out of a glass that is stored in my toxic apartment which will undoubtedly release toxins into the beverage, most likely through a toxic straw. Then I will continue to breathe the toxic air and bathe in the toxic water. I think the shake may be outmatched here.
  • digitalsteel
    digitalsteel Posts: 374 Member
    I dislike meal replacement shakes or substitutions. They all tend to be full of the stuff people claim are healthy, so they look really good on paper. Problem is, there is a lot of push behind what people currently think is good for you, and much of that information tends to be wrong. They may have all the nutrients you need, but they lack the fuel and building blocks your body desires.
  • BBCTiffyB
    BBCTiffyB Posts: 114 Member
    I use a different product called Shakeology. Yes I'm a coach so of coarse I am going to mention the stuff, but the only thing I can say from my experience is that having to go gluten free has left me craving a lot of "old foods" that I could no longer eat. Also, with the extreme workout program I am doing, I take protein shakes (which I hate) and would tend to leave them out of my meal.

    The Shakeology works as a meal replacement AND my protein shake so it works for me. They also have a 3 day cleanse that I plan on doing in between rounds so I can't speak for the cleanse part yet. You just have to find what works for you =)
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    That sounds nice, but again... what is all of this made of?
  • catrojas
    catrojas Posts: 53 Member
    I just want to throw this out there. My friend used Isagenix and lost 80 pounds. she sells it, but doen't push or pitch unless you ask her about her weight loss.
    If it hadn't been for her I wouldn't be on MFP right now. I was inspired by her complete change in appearance and her energy. she was a whole new person. So I looked into it, thought it was waaay to expensive, and now instead of using the whole program, I'm naughty and just buy enough from her to take one shake a day for my dinner, It fills me up, and I stated loosing weight from the beginning, I'm not saying its the shakes, I think a lot of it is my mindset, and Isagenix just gave me a mental boost to eat better.
    The first ingredient is whey protein, so I just look at it as a super healthy protein shake before my nightly workout.

    I've seen it in action, maybe talk to your friend and just try a shake a day, or half a shake twice a day, cuts down on cost and lets you take it for a test spin, or do the 9 day challenge, its still expensive, but its a nice way to try the program and see what you think about it

    (my friend is the blond on the right of my profile pic)
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    What. is. in. it?
  • wifeygonzo
    wifeygonzo Posts: 287 Member
    My husband and I did IsAgenix a few years ago and we both lost a lot of weight. It was great for about 6-8 months. Yes, it is a bit expensive. Neither one of us liked the vanilla flavored shake, the chocolate flavored shake is ok. You can add stuff to it to change the flavor up a bit. But in the end we bascially got sick & tired of drinking those shakes all the time, which is one of the reasons we quit, and the cost. I think its a temporary fix, but definitely not a way to live your life.
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
    They intentionally look for the people most likely to buy their product. Some people are so desperate to lose weight fast and easily they will pay the stupidly high prices, for something that they can get "for free", with a bit of work and attention to detail.

    What does this offer that normal, healthy, and cheap diet & exercise cannot provide?
  • catrojas
    catrojas Posts: 53 Member
    What. is. in. it?

    Isapro complex (when protein concentrate), calcium caseinate, low heat nonfat dry milk, fructose, sunflower oil powder, natural cocoa powder, soy lecithin, natural flavors, ionic alfalfa, olive oil powder, flax seed, soluble fiber, guar gum, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, magnesium oxide, tri calcium phosphate, honey powder, megnesium citrate, potassium citrate, copper amino acid chelate. and a lot more, says that it provides 18 amino acids, and is barley, wheat, gluten, and trans fat free.

    they say that the protein sources are all from new zealand grass fed cows with no added hormones or antibiotics.
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    What. is. in. it?

    Isapro complex (when protein concentrate), calcium caseinate, low heat nonfat dry milk, fructose, sunflower oil powder, natural cocoa powder, soy lecithin, natural flavors, ionic alfalfa, olive oil powder, flax seed, soluble fiber, guar gum, xanthan gum, sodium chloride, magnesium oxide, tri calcium phosphate, honey powder, megnesium citrate, potassium citrate, copper amino acid chelate. and a lot more, says that it provides 18 amino acids, and is barley, wheat, gluten, and trans fat free.

    they say that the protein sources are all from new zealand grass fed cows with no added hormones or antibiotics.

    THANK YOU. :flowerforyou: Now the question is simply (and I don't honestly expect an answer here) how is a detox shake going to compete with an entirely toxic environment? Because I'm not moving to New Zealand.
  • Christie I see you at least received the ingredients FINALLY! Some great points were brought up in this discussion. My only 2 cents to add is never JUST go by testimonials or a spokesperson. Do your homework and find 3rd party research on that specific product (not just research on an ingredient in the product). If the product doesn't have research that backs what it states it is and proves what it does, I would NOT buy it or consume it.

    I can give you a perfect example of this in regards to products claiming to boost or balance your immune system and have found ONLY one that has the research to back it up but don’t want to hijack your Isagenix topic. Good luck in your research for the best way to lose weight. I’m doing it by following a modified eating plan similar to what is described in the “17 Day Diet” book. Mostly portion control, eating the right foods at the right time and exercising 5-6 days a week.
  • RobynC79
    RobynC79 Posts: 331 Member
    Lets see here...

    Isapro complex (when (whey??) protein concentrate) = dehydrated milk
    calcium caseinate = fortified milk sugar
    low heat nonfat dry milk = milk
    fructose = sugar
    sunflower oil powder = veg oil
    natural cocoa powder = cocoa/oil
    soy lecithin = thickener
    natural flavors = just what it sounds like, prob largely sugars
    ionic alfalfa = no idea, but an amusing concept
    olive oil powder = veg oil
    flax seed, soluble fiber = cellulose/vegetable fiber
    guar gum, xanthan gum = thickeners
    sodium chloride = salt
    magnesium oxide, tri calcium phosphate, = preservatives/trace elements
    honey powder = sugar
    megnesium citrate, potassium citrate = preservatives/trace elements
    copper amino acid chelate = no idea - amino acids don't contain copper. A chelator binds and holds another substance (often precipitating it out of solution).

    So, essentially you are paying a cr*pload of money for powdered milk with some added fat, fiber and and sugar. If, indeed, everything around you is completely saturated with toxins, I don't think this combo is going to rescue you... Perhaps you could spray your house down with it??

    It seems to be the equivalent of making a fruit smoothie and popping a multivitamin. Or, you could have the fruit smoothie and eat a healthy, balanced diet and let your toxin-laden environment do its worst. Also, New Zealand is a lovely place, so you could consider moving there.
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    Perhaps you could spray your house down with it??

    Also, New Zealand is a lovely place, so you could consider moving there.

    LMAO. Literally almost fell over laughing! Thank you for decoding the mystery of Soylent Green... I mean, Isagenix for me. And also for suggesting how to use it to effectively detox my environment! I'll forward the Isagenix-room-spray concept to the corporate office!

    :laugh: :flowerforyou: :laugh:
  • DawnOBRN
    DawnOBRN Posts: 290 Member
    For $380/mo per person you could eat 100% organic EVERYTHING and prob still have some money left over!
    Whole food all the way IMO!!
  • Complete rip-off. And as you stated yourself, the kidneys and liver do just fine at cleansing the body on their own. If someone seriously thinks a "cleanse" is necessary they are most likely not eating properly and are therefore deficient in various micronutrients, or they have much bigger things to be worried about.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    Nitrocore 24 is a good replacement shake if that's your deal. At about .87 per serving, it's very reasonable and tastes good.

    You will find 10 strategically-chosen types of protein in every serving of Nitro Core 24. 24 grams of premium blended protein per scoop from ultra-fast acting, partially hydrolyzed whey proteins to much more slowly-digested micellar casein proteins, Nitro Core 24 is a full-spectrum, sustained-release protein blend designed to be used any time of the day or night. Plus, Nitro Core 24 provides 5 grams of hunger-satisfying dietary fiber to help keep you full longer as well as omega, monounsaturated, and MCT fats for energy and a taste that’s creamy and incredibly delicious. And, as you'd expect from Optimum Nutrition Nitro Core 24 is instantized to mix easily so you can enjoy it just about everywhere. Nitro Core 24 is enzyme fortified for easier digestion and absorption.



    Supplement Facts

    Serving Size 1 Scoop (48g)
    Servings Per Container 28

    Amount Per Serving

    Calories 200
    Calories From Fat 45

    Total Fat - 5g
    Saturated Fat - 1.5g
    Trans Fat - 0g
    Cholesterol - 45mg
    Sodium - 180mg
    Total Carbohydrate - 14g
    Dietary Fiber - 5g
    Sugars - 2g
    Protein - 24g

    Other Ingredients:

    Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolates, Micellar Casein, Milk Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Concentrate, Egg Albumin, Calcium Caseinate, Glutamine Peptides, Whey Peptides), Creamer (Sunflower Oil, Maltodextrin, Modified Food Starch, Dipotassium Phosphate, Tricalcium Phosphate, Tocopherols), Fiber Blend (Polydextrose, Partially Hydrolyzed Guar Gum, Inulin), Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Natural And Artificial Flavors, Gum Blend (Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Carrageenan), Lecithin, Salt, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Sucralose, Aminogen®, Carbogen®, Lactase.

    Allergen Information: Contains Milk, Egg, Wheat, And Soy (Lecithin) Ingredients.

  • As for cost, it isn't expensive. Most people spend at least $7-10 on a balanced meal, at least where I live, so a meal replacement shake is only $2.65, so for less than $6 a day you are getting 2 full meal replacements. What is expensive is being in the hospital and not being able to work or being so tired that you don't want to spend time playing with your children and enjoying watching them grow up. There is also a 30 day money back guarantee. The company stands behind their products so if you follow the program and don't see results, ask for your money back.

    I hope this gives another viewpoint which some may find helpful.

    Your health is your wealth.

    Cari-Lee

    anything that costs that much and comes in a glass better have booze in it. Otherwise, I'm sticking with the farmers market.
  • manjingirl
    manjingirl Posts: 188 Member
    Lets see here...

    Isapro complex (when (whey??) protein concentrate) = dehydrated milk
    calcium caseinate = fortified milk sugar
    low heat nonfat dry milk = milk
    fructose = sugar
    sunflower oil powder = veg oil
    natural cocoa powder = cocoa/oil
    soy lecithin = thickener
    natural flavors = just what it sounds like, prob largely sugars
    ionic alfalfa = no idea, but an amusing concept
    olive oil powder = veg oil
    flax seed, soluble fiber = cellulose/vegetable fiber
    guar gum, xanthan gum = thickeners
    sodium chloride = salt
    magnesium oxide, tri calcium phosphate, = preservatives/trace elements
    honey powder = sugar
    megnesium citrate, potassium citrate = preservatives/trace elements
    copper amino acid chelate = no idea - amino acids don't contain copper. A chelator binds and holds another substance (often precipitating it out of solution).

    So, essentially you are paying a cr*pload of money for powdered milk with some added fat, fiber and and sugar. If, indeed, everything around you is completely saturated with toxins, I don't think this combo is going to rescue you... Perhaps you could spray your house down with it??

    It seems to be the equivalent of making a fruit smoothie and popping a multivitamin. Or, you could have the fruit smoothie and eat a healthy, balanced diet and let your toxin-laden environment do its worst. Also, New Zealand is a lovely place, so you could consider moving there.

    Isapro complex (when (whey??) protein concentrate) = dehydrated milk = processed milk product
    calcium caseinate = fortified milk sugar = processed milk product
    low heat nonfat dry milk = milk = processed milk product
    fructose = sugar = now don't get me started on the problems with processed fructose
    sunflower oil powder = veg oil = processed oil product
    natural cocoa powder = cocoa/oil = processed bean product (exceedingly delicious though)
    soy lecithin = thickener = filler (and lecithin is proving to be abit problematic for the arteries)
    natural flavors = just what it sounds like, prob largely sugars =? fillers, at least processed product
    ionic alfalfa = no idea, but an amusing concept = now who knows what ionic means? blinding us with science or did they just forget to put the "r" in after the first "i"
    olive oil powder = veg oil = ?seriously, powdered oil, now that's processed alright
    flax seed, soluble fiber = cellulose/vegetable fiber = okay this might be okay but is the whole flaxseed in there?
    guar gum, xanthan gum = thickeners = filler
    sodium chloride = salt = nuff said
    magnesium oxide, tri calcium phosphate, = preservatives/trace elements
    honey powder = sugar = see olive oil powder
    megnesium citrate, potassium citrate = preservatives/trace elements
    copper amino acid chelate = no idea - amino acids don't contain copper. A chelator binds and holds another substance (often precipitating it out of solution).

    Now I love to use convenience foods now and then, I'm no angel. But this just seems to be a pseudo-scientific ripoff designed to relieve the desperate of more money than they can probably afford.
  • whiskey9890
    whiskey9890 Posts: 652 Member
    aparently ionic alfalfa is a trademark belonging to isagenix and is only found in their products.

    from wikkianswers:
    "Ionic alfalpa is a proprietory technology combinging plant source minerals and alfalfa juice extract to enhance and improve its bioavailability. Using no-comprimise ingredients in the "spark plug" of life, these super charged minerals support 95% of the bodys functions. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease."

    nope certainly don't think its for me
  • RobynC79
    RobynC79 Posts: 331 Member
    aparently ionic alfalfa is a trademark belonging to isagenix and is only found in their products.

    from wikkianswers:
    "Ionic alfalpa is a proprietory technology combinging plant source minerals and alfalfa juice extract to enhance and improve its bioavailability. Using no-comprimise ingredients in the "spark plug" of life, these super charged minerals support 95% of the bodys functions. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease."

    nope certainly don't think its for me

    Ugh, this sort of pseudo-scientific horsec**p annoys me. I am a scientist - if I wrote like that in a scientific paper I would be rightly ridiculed for it. "Bioavailability' is a con.

    Here are my criteria for bioavailable: 1. Is it visible? 2. Can I reach it? 3. Does it fit in my mouth? If yes, sufficient bioavialability obtained! Making nutrients from food 'available' is what our finely evolved digestive system does, and it doesn't charge ~$400/month for doing so.

    I would LOVE to know which particular ion is supposedly at work here. And what exactly are these 'super charged minerals' that support 95% of the body's functions?? Amino acids? because those come more cheaply - in food.

    Awesome material for a laugh at my lab meeting, though, so thanks for finding that piece of gold, Whiskey9890!!
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    Here are my criteria for bioavailable: 1. Is it visible? 2. Can I reach it? 3. Does it fit in my mouth? If yes, sufficient bioavialability obtained!

    Thanks for finding that piece of gold, Whiskey9890!!

    You guys make my day.
  • ChristieisReady
    ChristieisReady Posts: 708 Member
    I like how not one but TWO competitors have tried to sell thier product in this thread as well.

    Note to "coaches", "representatives" and "lifestyle models": I don't think anyone reading this is terribly impressed with the concept, so it doesn't matter too much which brand name is on the package.
  • RNewton4269
    RNewton4269 Posts: 663 Member
    I have heard of it..but would never buy anything like that.
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