Whole fat foods.

MSDRIZZ

Ok, so I am trying something new. I do not eat low fat foods anymore. I still count my fat and calories as well as my cholesterol and sugar intake. I am starting by only using full fat dairy and just counting the fat and calories. I don't buy packaged food much, but if I do it can't say low fat anywhere on the box/bag. I am trying (very hard) to cut out artificial sweeteners. The theory is that these foods will make me feel more satisfied and I will crave junk like fast food and eat less refined sugar. I would like to know what people think of this. Please be respectful of my choices as well as other peoples opinions.

questionablemethods

I love fat. :happy: Fat and protein keep me feeling satisfied for a long time. Also, yum!

It sounds as though you are moving in the direction of trying to eat whole, natural food instead of food that has been modified to be "healthy" and I think that's great. It has worked very well for me. I think it is helpful to take a Michael Pollan approach -- if a food makes a health claim or is advertised on television, avoid it!

u2fergus

Well... I know my parents went from drinking skim milk and using margarine to eating only raw butter and raw milk and they lost a bunch of weight and lowered their cholesterol. They also cut out sugar entirely, though, and watched their portion sizes, so it's hard to say which factor(s) played the biggest part. They swear by the raw milk/butter, though.

melsinct

Fats make me feel very satisfied! I buy low fat yogurt and milk but I eat full fat cheese, lots of different nuts, healthy oils, avocados, etc. I stay within calorie goal but don't sweat it if I go over on fat since it is usually from healthy sources (not this past weekend though, lol)

CrazyDaisysMommy

I think it's great that you are trying to eat clean! I try not to put anything into my body that God didn't make.

chicago_dad

Recent thing by Dr. Oz on this-- He advocates for full fat food as well.

MSDRIZZ

YES I have been eating clean (mostly) but the full fat is new. I read the recent Time article by Dr. Oz and it made sense in allot of ways especially this one. The obesity epidemic seems to have gotten so much worse since low fat everything has flooded the market.

meeperoon

hmmm I agree that additives and artificial sweetners can be bad but I dont think you should write things off just because it says low fat! It is only a label and they might be telling the truth, if a banana had low fat on it would you say no to that?

I think its just a case of fresh food over packaged food and if its packaged then checking out the ingredients and if it is full of crud to replace the fat then fair enough get rid but sometimes low fat can really be just that. Low in fat.

Full fat dairy - Scary!! I personally stay well away from cheese and if I have milk, then its semi skimmed.

rml_16

I think it's fine as long as you're choosing healthy foods (that happen to have fat in them) and staying within your allotted calories.

I do eat low fat dairy because nothing weird is added to it, it's just the same thing as the full fat, but skimmed. Otherwise, I eat the real thing -- even real sugar if you can believe it! I think I'm a dying breed.

MSDRIZZ

Recent thing by Dr. Oz on this-- He advocates for full fat food as well.

Exactly! Did you read the same article? I love Dr Oz!

Zeromilediet

I've reset my MFP goals to 50% fat and make sure it's healthy fat ... you're off to a good start by opening your mind to try something new to see if it works for you. Good luck!

P.S. my diary is open if you want to see what 50% fat looks like on a menu

ncgatorfan

Recent thing by Dr. Oz on this-- He advocates for full fat food as well.

I saw the same thing too. Especially saying Skim Milk was a HUGE mistake. 2% is best and better than whole milk, though.

dls06

I find when it says low fat it has more carbs. I eat full fat, just less.

MSDRIZZ

hmmm I agree that additives and artificial sweetners can be bad but I dont think you should write things off just because it says low fat! It is only a label and they might be telling the truth, if a banana had low fat on it would you say no to that?

I think its just a case of fresh food over packaged food and if its packaged then checking out the ingredients and if it is full of crud to replace the fat then fair enough get rid but sometimes low fat can really be just that. Low in fat.

Full fat dairy - Scary!! I personally stay well away from cheese and if I have milk, then its semi skimmed.

I meant if it is full fat already and the fat needs to be taken out I won't eat it. I will still eat foods that are low fat. Just not low fat that had to have the fat taken out to become low fat. Years ago I had a book called "Whole Foods for the Whole Family" that I got from some friends from La Leche League anf followed that while my biological children were young.

MSDRIZZ

I find when it says low fat it has more carbs. I eat full fat, just less.

And more sugar.

MSDRIZZ

Well... I know my parents went from drinking skim milk and using margarine to eating only raw butter and raw milk and they lost a bunch of weight and lowered their cholesterol. They also cut out sugar entirely, though, and watched their portion sizes, so it's hard to say which factor(s) played the biggest part. They swear by the raw milk/butter, though.

I really want raw milk, but have not been able to find a supplier............ yet

AmeChops

hmmm I agree that additives and artificial sweetners can be bad but I dont think you should write things off just because it says low fat! It is only a label and they might be telling the truth, if a banana had low fat on it would you say no to that?

I think its just a case of fresh food over packaged food and if its packaged then checking out the ingredients and if it is full of crud to replace the fat then fair enough get rid but sometimes low fat can really be just that. Low in fat.

Full fat dairy - Scary!! I personally stay well away from cheese and if I have milk, then its semi skimmed.

I think what they meant was things that are 'unnaturally' low in fat...like low fat yoghurt, low fat cheese etc...

AmeChops

Well... I know my parents went from drinking skim milk and using margarine to eating only raw butter and raw milk and they lost a bunch of weight and lowered their cholesterol. They also cut out sugar entirely, though, and watched their portion sizes, so it's hard to say which factor(s) played the biggest part. They swear by the raw milk/butter, though.

I really want raw milk, but have not been able to find a supplier............ yet

Sorry...but what do you mean by 'raw milk'?? Think I'm the other side of the pond lol :-))

cmriverside

Fats make me feel very satisfied! I buy low fat yogurt and milk but I eat full fat cheese, lots of different nuts, healthy oils, avocados, etc. I stay within calorie goal but don't sweat it if I go over on fat since it is usually from healthy sources (not this past weekend though, lol)

You read my mind. Thanks. Now I don't have to write it!

Silverkittycat

I also get about 50% of my calories from fat, almost all of it full fat. Raw dairy when I can get it. Raw cheese and butter daily but raw milk's becoming tough to get in Florida...luckily we've got lots of Weston Price people in the area.

rml_16

Well... I know my parents went from drinking skim milk and using margarine to eating only raw butter and raw milk and they lost a bunch of weight and lowered their cholesterol. They also cut out sugar entirely, though, and watched their portion sizes, so it's hard to say which factor(s) played the biggest part. They swear by the raw milk/butter, though.

I really want raw milk, but have not been able to find a supplier............ yet

Sorry...but what do you mean by 'raw milk'?? Think I'm the other side of the pond lol :-))

Not pasteurized (heated to kill bacteria).

I think you can find it if you buy directly from a dairy farm, but I wouldn't take my chances.

Pollywog39

I think it's fine as long as you're choosing healthy foods (that happen to have fat in them) and staying within your allotted calories.

I do eat low fat dairy because nothing weird is added to it, it's just the same thing as the full fat, but skimmed. Otherwise, I eat the real thing -- even real sugar if you can believe it! I think I'm a dying breed.

I agree with everything you said....and YES to real sugar! I have avoided sugar-free foods for a very long time....... unless you're diabetic and MUST avoid sugar, they are totally useless to a person's diet and I believe they are dangerous to our systems! I also avoid non-fat foods that SHOULD have fat in them - like cheeses and yogurts.

All things in moderation.......and trying to keep my food as REAL as possible! God made it, we can eat it!

AmeChops

Well... I know my parents went from drinking skim milk and using margarine to eating only raw butter and raw milk and they lost a bunch of weight and lowered their cholesterol. They also cut out sugar entirely, though, and watched their portion sizes, so it's hard to say which factor(s) played the biggest part. They swear by the raw milk/butter, though.

I really want raw milk, but have not been able to find a supplier............ yet

Sorry...but what do you mean by 'raw milk'?? Think I'm the other side of the pond lol :-))

Not pasteurized (heated to kill bacteria).

I think you can find it if you buy directly from a dairy farm, but I wouldn't take my chances.

Ahh...I see...learn something new everyday...thank you :-D

kyle4jem

I find when it says low fat it has more carbs. I eat full fat, just less.

Not all reduced fat dairy has more carbs and added sugar/sweetner.

I use reduced-fat cottage cheese which actually has a third fewer calories than regular, plus it keeps better.

But I also cook with butter and only usw whole milk. I also eat real cheese, although do use Phili or McLelland's extra-strong cheedar spread now and again.

I certainly don't think it's BAD to drink whole milk and eat dairy. {sorry didn't see teh reply that came in while I was writing this... thanks :happy: }

PS ... I also want to know what you mean by "raw milk"... as in un-pasturised and straight from the cow? In the UK you would certainly only be abel to buy that from a farmer's market or very local supplier as all dairy must be pasturised for retail consumption.

MSDRIZZ

Well... I know my parents went from drinking skim milk and using margarine to eating only raw butter and raw milk and they lost a bunch of weight and lowered their cholesterol. They also cut out sugar entirely, though, and watched their portion sizes, so it's hard to say which factor(s) played the biggest part. They swear by the raw milk/butter, though.

I really want raw milk, but have not been able to find a supplier............ yet

Sorry...but what do you mean by 'raw milk'?? Think I'm the other side of the pond lol :-))

Milk that has not been pasteurized. Basically straight from the cow. There is allot of controversy about it here.

rml_16

I think it's fine as long as you're choosing healthy foods (that happen to have fat in them) and staying within your allotted calories.

I do eat low fat dairy because nothing weird is added to it, it's just the same thing as the full fat, but skimmed. Otherwise, I eat the real thing -- even real sugar if you can believe it! I think I'm a dying breed.

I agree with everything you said....and YES to real sugar! I have avoided sugar-free foods for a very long time....... unless you're diabetic and MUST avoid sugar, they are totally useless to a person's diet and I believe they are dangerous to our systems! I also avoid non-fat foods that SHOULD have fat in them - like cheeses and yogurts.

All things in moderation.......and trying to keep my food as REAL as possible! God made it, we can eat it!

Exactly! I don't go out of my way to eat sugar, but if I want a sweet treat, it's going to be a real sweet treat! I HATE the taste of the fake stuff (including Stevia and the like). BLECH. I use brown sugar or honey where it makes sense and tastes good, but I'm OK with a moderate amount of refined white sugar on occassion. Like in my frozen mudslide Friday night (with caramel Bailey's and vanilla Kahlua -- yum!).

bcattoes

I don't eat low fat, but I eat low saturated fat which would mean reduced fat dairy because the saturated fat in dairy has been shown to increase risk of heart disease. But that doesn't mean you can't eat it and be healthy. I'd just recommend keeping a close eye on your health, especially at first. Good luck!!

Silverkittycat

For local raw milk/butter/cheese sources you can check on this site - http://www.westonaprice.org/

and the best book on food I've ever read is Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon.

Good Luck!

MSDRIZZ

I find when it says low fat it has more carbs. I eat full fat, just less.

Not all reduced fat dairy has more carbs and added sugar/sweetner.

I use reduced-fat cottage cheese which actually has a third fewer calories than regular, plus it keeps better.

But I also cook with butter and only usw whole milk. I also eat real cheese, although do use Phili or McLelland's extra-strong cheedar spread now and again.

I certainly don't think it's BAD to drink whole milk and eat dairy. {sorry didn't see teh reply that came in while I was writing this... thanks :happy: }

PS ... I also want to know what you mean by "raw milk"... as in un-pasturised and straight from the cow? In the UK you would certainly only be abel to buy that from a farmer's market or very local supplier as all dairy must be pasturised for retail consumption.

Yes here too, but there is a growing raw milk movement. The thinking is that pasteurizing kills the good as well as the bad and that now that we have cleaner dairy farms and faster transportation spoilage is not as much of an issue.

chocolattahottie

I am a supporter of you

artifical sweetners make me super sick, I am allergic, and 0 calories is not worth me having migraines and nausea.

MSDRIZZ

For local raw milk/butter/cheese sources you can check on this site - http://www.westonaprice.org/

and the best book on food I've ever read is Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon.

Good Luck!

They only have one listed that isn't a few hours away. They don't answer the phone and have no email listed. :sad:
Thank you for the tip though.:happy: