looking for some good atheist support !!

Fatchickslim

Also, if I thought I was losing weight to keep myself out of hell (gluttony is a supposed sin after all) I might be less likely to have a naughty chocolate bar.

lol I think there's alot of people who are going to burn if chocolate is the key! lol

meerkat70

The "God talk" doesn't bother me much to tell you the truth but, if someone were constantly aiming religiosity toward me, it may start to become grating. I just ignore any religious inspiration on here. Hey, if that's what helps you then more power to you! To each their own!

Completely with you on that. I'm an atheist. I have the utmost respect for people of faith. But I do also get where the OP is coming from - there's an awfully large number of bible verses in circulation on here.

I have several Muslim MFP friends, and to be honest, apart from the occasional 'god willing' in their posts, you really wouldn't know they were Muslim - they're just very nice friendly, kind people who don't feel the need to talk about their faith all the time.... (Despite clearly being very devout.)

I think perhaps it's particularly jarring for someone who lives in the UK, which, while nominally a Christian nation, tends to be frankly less in your face about it all...

meerkat70

In that case. Maybe us atheists can carry on our conversation in peace. THANK YOU.

So, question #1. Is being godless better or worse for weight loss? Kneeling does burn more calories than thinking folks....

Leila, as a former Catholic, I can assure you, I did an awful lot of kneeling, genuflected regularly, and still managed to get really *quite large*. Perhaps I was performing the sign of the cross wrong, but it didn't seem to offer much of a workout for my triceps. And the stations of the cross didn't seem to raise my heart rate much above resting.

Sezmo83

Completely non religious person here. Feel free to add me. I've not seen too much god talk on here to be honest and if I do see it I just ignore it. I have no problem with people who do practice religion as long as they don't ram it down my throat.

Sezmo83

Hmm...double post. Maybe I'll start a religion that worships accidental double posts.

meerkat70

Seriously does that happen? That's pretty sad, I would have thought that if some was asking for support it has everything to with weightloss regardless of what their religion, race, sex or sexual preference! Everyone faces challenges on the road and if you can find people who understand it's going to be helpful in the long run.

Several threads by gay and lesbian posters asking for LGBT friends have been deleted. Yes, it certainly happens.

engineman312

fun fact, the Treaty of Tripoli, which was signed by the USA in 1797 (when founding fathers were still alive), clearly states that the united states of america is NOT a christian nation and was never intended to be founded as one. It read as:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."


Enjoy.

leilaphoenix

[disclaimer] This thread was started to see if a "looking for atheists" subject is allowed. It seems that it is, for now. However, as I learned from friends last week, "looking for gays" is certainly not allowed. I find this absolutely frogging ridiculous. Where is the site hosted 1970s Texas? Get with the programme MFP, as much as I love you. I don't hate religion. But I do hate preaching, and I do hate any discrimination against non-believers.[/discalimer]

I believe I should be allowed to seek people with a rational mind.
I believe that people should be able to seek LGBT friends.

Also, I met Richard Dawkins the other day. He's pretty cool.

emilynelson26

Just read a thread a few posts down about looking for Christian support, and there were no protests or anyone questioning the original poster, just support from like minded people. Just like in real life, it's impossible for an atheist to get the same respect.

Anyway, I'm a proud atheist and would love to find other people on here that credit their weight loss to hard work and determination rather than a higher power.

I saw this map awhile ago and thought it was interesting that the higher rates of obesity tend to be in the more religious states. I wonder what the correlation is?

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html

Fatchickslim

[disclaimer] This thread was started to see if a "looking for atheists" subject is allowed. It seems that it is, for now. However, as I learned from friends last week, "looking for gays" is certainly not allowed. I find this absolutely frogging ridiculous. Where is the site hosted 1970s Texas? Get with the programme MFP, as much as I love you. I don't hate religion. But I do hate preaching, and I do hate any discrimination against non-believers.[/discalimer]

I believe I should be allowed to seek people with a rational mind.
I believe that people should be able to seek LGBT friends.

Also, I met Richard Dawkins the other day. He's pretty cool.

Here, here and Amen

engineman312

[disclaimer] This thread was started to see if a "looking for atheists" subject is allowed. It seems that it is, for now. However, as I learned from friends last week, "looking for gays" is certainly not allowed. I find this absolutely frogging ridiculous. Where is the site hosted 1970s Texas? Get with the programme MFP, as much as I love you. I don't hate religion. But I do hate preaching, and I do hate any discrimination against non-believers.[/discalimer]

I believe I should be allowed to seek people with a rational mind.
I believe that people should be able to seek LGBT friends.

Also, I met Richard Dawkins the other day. He's pretty cool.

Here, here and Amen

hey HEY... none of that here!!!

Fatchickslim

lol

leilaphoenix

Leila, as a former Catholic, I can assure you, I did an awful lot of kneeling, genuflected regularly, and still managed to get really *quite large*. Perhaps I was performing the sign of the cross wrong, but it didn't seem to offer much of a workout for my triceps. And the stations of the cross didn't seem to raise my heart rate much above resting.

Loving the idea of speed sign of the cross - up down left right up down left right, come on everyone

leilaphoenix

Just read a thread a few posts down about looking for Christian support, and there were no protests or anyone questioning the original poster, just support from like minded people. Just like in real life, it's impossible for an atheist to get the same respect.

Anyway, I'm a proud atheist and would love to find other people on here that credit their weight loss to hard work and determination rather than a higher power.

I saw this map awhile ago and thought it was interesting that the higher rates of obesity tend to be in the more religious states. I wonder what the correlation is?

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html

Interesting. I guess if life is only the prequel to an eternity dancing with the angels in the sky, I might be less bothered if I was a fatty. On the other hand -> is being overweight a sin? Greed?

Seriously though, I reckon it is all about seeking comfort. Seek comfort in faith, seek comfort in food. Also probably a wealth factor. In the US, the poorer people are the more likely they are to be religious.

I wonder if there are any trends in the UK. I reckon we are a lot more evenly spread here.

missalicia78

ya...its just like these forums..its ok to post things about christian support, or married people support etc etc...but soon as you post gay or lesbian or now atheist support, is when all heck breaks loose and people get all defensive. saying 'what does this have to do with weight loss' blah blah, same old rhetoric. and we can say the same to those god lovers..if you dont like gay or atheist talk dont read it..dont be hypocrites

Seriously does that happen? That's pretty sad, I would have thought that if some was asking for support it has everything to with weightloss regardless of what their religion, race, sex or sexual preference! Everyone faces challenges on the road and if you can find people who understand it's going to be helpful in the long run.

I don't know if that happens a lot on these forums but it seems that is the general rule in communication, yes. I live in a VERY conservative area and it seems that, while people freely proselytize, if I express an opinion that is opposite of the fundamentalist mindset, I am perceived as confrontational and attacking. I think, though, it goes both ways. I think believers feel that they get jumped on for expressing their religious beliefs.

CharlieJuliette

I simply don't "get" religion, and have always been an atheist.
I find it so disappointing when you're reading an interesting post on here and then someone brings their religious (almost always Christian) beliefs into the conversation.

mmmichelle8486

^^^this

rml_16

I do think the "God chat" is inappropriate on here. It shouldn't matter . But then I suppose everybody is entitled to their opinion , and if that is what is giving a person inspiration....live and let live. Atheism discussions equally inappropriate!

I agree wholeheartedly. I just don't understand the "haters".
edit: on either side. I hope everyone has success with losing weight.

It isn't hate, just people with different views and everybody is entitled to try to find like minded people on here to support and motivate. Religion makes some uncomfortable, to others it is a major positive part in their lives and they talk about God a lot of course they do and good for them but some people don't like to hear it.

Religion doesn't make me uncomfortable, but when I post something and someone comes back with something all about God and Jesus and the like, it annoys. I don't believe that stuff (I guess you could call me pagan. It seems to be the best fit.) and someone preaching to me in a message board thread isn't going to change my mind.

But then, I pretty much just ignore it, anyway. It isn't worth arguing over.

rml_16

In that case. Maybe us atheists can carry on our conversation in peace. THANK YOU.

So, question #1. Is being godless better or worse for weight loss? Kneeling does burn more calories than thinking folks....

Leila, as a former Catholic, I can assure you, I did an awful lot of kneeling, genuflected regularly, and still managed to get really *quite large*. Perhaps I was performing the sign of the cross wrong, but it didn't seem to offer much of a workout for my triceps. And the stations of the cross didn't seem to raise my heart rate much above resting.

The potlucks probably interfered.

And then there's that a vast majority of Catholics come from countries where people like to EAT (and some really incredibly good, rich and fattening foods! lol).

yanicka

i'm agnostic, no one accepts me *sobs*

Start our own club?

I'm happy to be your friend.
No god to thank for my progress :-)

Agnostic here too. Not god fearing enought for the belives and too beliver for the atheists LOL

bmw4deb

If the post had christian in the title it would be deleted.
I judge no one respect and love everyone
threads like this serve one purpose only
TO TRY AND STIR UP **** !

10fairywings

I'm sorry but I found this quite entertaining! Have to aggree with so many people above, it's the same as people complaining about a terrible TV show when they could have just turned over!

I can absolutely see where the op is coming from, I get agitated by the God Squad (excuse this wasn't sure what else to call it) as has been said all power to you for being a believer, but mutual respect means all power to those that don't as well! And all those that sit on the fence (you know who you are you agnostics you lol).

I totally own the fact that this is my problem, but I have a good excuse I went to a catholic convent need I say more......when the G word comes out it often sends shivers down my spine! This also does not mean that I am not a spirtual person.

The upshot is let it be and go with the flow, if we were all the same life would be boring! And it really makes no difference if we just simply support each other without bringing other personal choices into it! Live and let live!

leilaphoenix

If the post had christian in the title it would be deleted.
I judge no one respect and love everyone
threads like this serve one purpose only
TO TRY AND STIR UP **** !

Interesting - the reason I posted this was that there was an exactly identical thread called "looking for some good christian support !!" - here it is for you http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/343349-looking-for-some-good-christian-support

Steven

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