Are you hitting a plateau???

adross3

You just said it....you 3 have very simular approaches. I know that there are many types of diets out there. I know that when I eat 5-6 meals a day that I stay full. OP say that I am always hungry. So I show them a way not to be. Ignorance has come from you many times in this article. If I am wrong then why the 25lb fat loss and +4.5 muscle gain. Wait .....you are saying that is bogus also. The Science that these people have thrown at everybody with their bogus and not true statements are completly false. Once again this is a dogma spin by these people who claim there theory to be always right. I have proved my theory over and over again...Just not to you. This is not the first article on this.

When it comes to proof of science without copying and pasting my research, here is my proof.

Date : F% : F lbs : H2O : Muscle : Bone : Weight
7/4 : ..24.1 : 46.3 : .56.6 : ..70.9 : ...8.1 :.... 191
8/29 ..13.6 : 24.3 :. 60.5 :.. 73.0 :... 9.6 : ....179.
9/15 ..11.7 : 20.7 : .62.3 : ..75.1 :... 9.7 : ....177

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(F% -12.4): (Flbs -25.6) : (H2O +5.7) : (Muscle +4.2) : ( Bone +1.6 ) : (Weight -14 lbs)


You can talk until you are blue in the face. You can say that my science is better then your science. I can pull up medical science and so can you. You said it youself. Some diets are not for all people. My research has produced the above. It may not be to the micron like you want it to be, but who really cares about that. I don't. I only care about results. The method of my research produced this. These are real results. Not made up.

i'm not sure what you misunderstand no one is questioning that you lost weight your way, what people have called into question was your justifications for your methods ie eating 6x a day because if not it will hinder fat loss. there is no "your science" is better then anyone's else's science, science is science, i have kindly provided peer reviewed research to disprove your justifications that you have listed. please look up post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy. And you can continue to post results from a BIA device after i provided you with peer reviewed literature showing that BIA devices overestimate FFM and underestimate FM

Hey....does it look like my fat loss was hindered. I lost 2.4lbs of fat a week. This is what I am talking about. What part of this is not understandable. Cool. I am glad that your wrote your article with peer testing. P90X which is a proven method has your eating 5-6 times a day. I guess that is a lie also. Once again your theory is just a theory based upon a predicated science. Yes people agree with it. P90X has hundreds of thousands of tried and true users that are eating 5-6 times a day.

Acg67

"Hey....does it look like my fat loss was hindered."

who knows, that is based off of a BIA device which is inaccurate and overestimates FFM

"I am glad that your wrote your article with peer testing. "

if you don't know the significance of peer reviewed literature in science, well...

"P90X which is a proven method has your eating 5-6 times a day."

did anyone dispute that eating 5-6 times a day will not work? what people dispute is your reasoning why it works, that is what has been called in to question and that is what people have asked you to clarify or substantiate

shtaylor

Don't say you "haven't lost much" Every pound is a mile stone. Look at it this way for every 10 pounds lost you usually go down a dress size, how great is that? And I'm sure you will be at your short term weight by Halloween. It took all of us a long time to get to our unhealthy weight and it will take time to lose it. Stay focused and we can do it.

dawnemjh

bump

adross3

"Hey....does it look like my fat loss was hindered."

who knows, that is based off of a BIA device which is inaccurate and overestimates FFM

"I am glad that your wrote your article with peer testing. "

if you don't know the significance of peer reviewed literature in science, well...

"P90X which is a proven method has your eating 5-6 times a day."

did anyone dispute that eating 5-6 times a day will not work? what people dispute is your reasoning why it works, that is what has been called in to question and that is what people have asked you to clarify or substantiate

yes your buddies that think the same way you do have said that this is bogus. A BMI scale is a measurement that is flawed. But it still scales and it works for me. I will be damned if it is not close to the true number. The whole point is that judging your weight loss is supposed to be fun and learning. Not anal rententiveness. Most people will burn out on that. I have told you that the devices that I use are not accurate to the letter. But I will say that it is close enought. I really don't care if it is off my a pound or two. I'm not that anal about this subject. I have watched the the fat and muscle change in a downward scale. My abs are now starting to show. My stomach is now flat. If that's not close to 11.7% BF. I don't really care and I don't think that most people care also. I think that they care about a scaled difference. If they are aware of change the process I use will teach them about their body. Your accuracy is.....well.....anal. RELAX....When they get to the point of rippedness like you are. Well maybe they just don't care.

Anal retentiveness is not neccessarily a bad thing. In some cases it can control your life.

Acg67

"Hey....does it look like my fat loss was hindered."

who knows, that is based off of a BIA device which is inaccurate and overestimates FFM

"I am glad that your wrote your article with peer testing. "

if you don't know the significance of peer reviewed literature in science, well...

"P90X which is a proven method has your eating 5-6 times a day."

did anyone dispute that eating 5-6 times a day will not work? what people dispute is your reasoning why it works, that is what has been called in to question and that is what people have asked you to clarify or substantiate

yes your buddies that think the same way you do have said that this is bogus. A BMI scale is a measurement that is flawed. But it still scales and it works for me. I will be damned if it is not close to the true number. The whole point is that judging your weight loss is supposed to be fun and learning. Not anal rententiveness. Most people will burn out on that. I have told you that the devices that I use are not accurate to the letter. But I will say that it is close enought. I really don't care if it is off my a pound or two. I'm not that anal about this subject. I have watched the the fat and muscle change in a downward scale. My abs are now starting to show. My stomach is now flat. If that's not close to 11.7% BF. I don't really care and I don't think that most people care also. I think that they care about a scaled difference. If they are aware of change the process I use will teach them about their body. Your accuracy is.....well.....anal. RELAX....When they get to the point of rippedness like you are. Well maybe they just don't care.

Anal retentiveness is not neccessarily a bad thing. In some cases it can control your life.

it is not a BMI scale as that is a simple formula based on height on weight, your scale is most likely a BIA scale that can calculate BMI as well as bf%

the whole point of bringing up accuracy is that you have repeatably said you've lost x amt of fat and gained x amt of muscle, i was pointing out that due to BIA devices overestimating FFM that it is most likely you didn't lose as much fat as you think

adross3

"Hey....does it look like my fat loss was hindered."

who knows, that is based off of a BIA device which is inaccurate and overestimates FFM

"I am glad that your wrote your article with peer testing. "

if you don't know the significance of peer reviewed literature in science, well...

"P90X which is a proven method has your eating 5-6 times a day."

did anyone dispute that eating 5-6 times a day will not work? what people dispute is your reasoning why it works, that is what has been called in to question and that is what people have asked you to clarify or substantiate

yes your buddies that think the same way you do have said that this is bogus. A BMI scale is a measurement that is flawed. But it still scales and it works for me. I will be damned if it is not close to the true number. The whole point is that judging your weight loss is supposed to be fun and learning. Not anal rententiveness. Most people will burn out on that. I have told you that the devices that I use are not accurate to the letter. But I will say that it is close enought. I really don't care if it is off my a pound or two. I'm not that anal about this subject. I have watched the the fat and muscle change in a downward scale. My abs are now starting to show. My stomach is now flat. If that's not close to 11.7% BF. I don't really care and I don't think that most people care also. I think that they care about a scaled difference. If they are aware of change the process I use will teach them about their body. Your accuracy is.....well.....anal. RELAX....When they get to the point of rippedness like you are. Well maybe they just don't care.

Anal retentiveness is not neccessarily a bad thing. In some cases it can control your life.

it is not a BMI scale as that is a simple formula based on height on weight, your scale is most likely a BIA scale that can calculate BMI as well as bf%

the whole point of bringing up accuracy is that you have repeatably said you've lost x amt of fat and gained x amt of muscle, i was pointing out that due to BIA devices overestimating FFM that it is most likely you didn't lose as much fat as you think

At what BF% do you start to see your abs. My guess is 13-10%. My stomach is flat and I am starting to see my abs. I do weigh 177 lbs. 13% BF = 23.01 lbs of fat. 11.7% BF is 20.79 lbs of fat. That's a difference of 2.3lbs of fat variance.. Here is comes....Who cares. It's pretty damn close. My methods are not perfect....who cares...but they are close.

auntiebabs

bro-tastic!

"Basal Metabolic Rate This is the amount of calories you burn sitting on your behind in a 24 hr period. Then how active are you"

BMR has nothing to do with an activity factor, you multiply your BMR by an activity factor to calculate maintenance calories

"BMR or BIA"

Basal Metabolic Rate and Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis aren't even close to the same thing

"Starving yourself in certain points of the day makes your body preserve its fat stores and you get sluggish. Knowing how many cals you burn in a day and what time of the day you go past your BMR's cal burn will enable you to eat to fuel up thru the day. Break your day down into sections before you eat 6X a day. Breakfast, Snack, Lunch, Snack, Dinner and Snack. This keeps the body burning and never in starvation mode. How active are you between each section."

Meal frequency is largely irrelevant to weight loss, significant metabolic slow down occurs after 48-72hrs of fasting, also see;

http://www­.ncbi.nlm.­nih.gov/pu­bmed/19943­985
This study shows there was no difference in weight loss between subjects with high/low meal frequencie­s.

http://www­.ncbi.nlm.­nih.gov/pu­bmed/91554­94
Evidence supports that meal frequency has nothing to do with energy in the subjects.

http://www­.ncbi.nlm.­nih.gov/pu­bmed/11319­656
Yet again, no difference in energy in the subjects compared to 2 meals/d to 6 meals/d.

http://www­.ncbi.nlm.­nih.gov/pu­bmed/19059­98
Eur J Clin Nutr. 1991 Mar;45(3):­161-9.Link­s
Influence of the feeding frequency on nutrient utilizatio­n in man: consequenc­es for energy metabolism­.

http://www­.ncbi.nlm.­nih.gov/pu­bmed/11319­656
Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2001 Apr;25(4):­519-28.Lin­ks
Compared with nibbling, neither gorging nor a morning fast affect short-term energy balance in obese patients in a chamber calorimete­r.

"Cleaning up your eating habits at this plateau will trigger more fat loss. Your physical body will be changing when exerciseing. Your weight will seem to have stopped, but your bones amd muscles will increase in mass. This will add weight to your structure. Don't worry, it's what you want. At this time you will need to clean up your eating. "CLEAN EATING". The fat will fall off you and your physical structure will increase. You will look better and feel empowered. "

assuming the same macronutrient composition, "clean" vs "unclean" makes little or no difference in weight loss

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/

lot's of info here bumpingvit for later

OregonCountryGirl

BUMP

Acg67

At what BF% do you start to see your abs. My guess is 13-10%. My stomach is flat and I am starting to see my abs. I do weigh 177 lbs. 13% BF = 23.01 lbs of fat. 11.7% BF is 20.79 lbs of fat. That's a difference of 2.3lbs of fat variance.. Here is comes....Who cares. It's pretty damn close. My methods are not perfect....who cares...but they are close.

it depends on a number of factors, anywhere from 15%ish to around 12ish i would guess. everyone is different, besides fat%, genetics, size of abdominal muscles etc come into play so everyone will start to see them at different percentages

adross3

At what BF% do you start to see your abs. My guess is 13-10%. My stomach is flat and I am starting to see my abs. I do weigh 177 lbs. 13% BF = 23.01 lbs of fat. 11.7% BF is 20.79 lbs of fat. That's a difference of 2.3lbs of fat variance.. Here is comes....Who cares. It's pretty damn close. My methods are not perfect....who cares...but they are close.

it depends on a number of factors, anywhere from 15%ish to around 12ish i would guess. everyone is different, besides fat%, genetics, size of abdominal muscles etc come into play so everyone will start to see them at different percentages

all I see is a flawed statement. What happened to your exact science. Kind of flew out the window with flawed variable. Do you want to stop Mr science. You have taught nobody but created a discussion with flaws on both side. There is one thing...I have lost 25 lbs of fat and gained 4.5 lbs of muscle..