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sunyg

My opinion means nada but here it is anyway. If a post offends you, hit the x button. If someone posts something on their wall that offends you, un-friend them.

macpatti

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

_beachgirl_

My opinion means nada but here it is anyway. If a post offends you, hit the x button. If someone posts something on their wall that offends you, un-friend them.

Your opinion means something to me! Mostly because I agree with you.

hush7hush

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

If you don't like it, don't look at it, right?!

If there's a show on tv that offends you, what do you do?

Do you write to the station and tell them, or do you just turn the channel?

Iamfit4life

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

If you don't like it, don't look at it, right?!

If there's a show on tv that offends you, what do you do?

Do you write to the station and tell them, or do you just turn the channel?

I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF>

macpatti

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

If you don't like it, don't look at it, right?!

If there's a show on tv that offends you, what do you do?

Do you write to the station and tell them, or do you just turn the channel?

I think you're missing my point. If it's a thread that I'm in, I'm learning something, sharing experiences, or congratulating someone. When someone posts something offensive, I don't know it's offensive until AFTER I've read it. Once I've read it, I will address it, just as I would "in real life". If it's a radio station or a television show, I can change the station. I can also avoid going to those stations, (MTV, rap stations, etc). However, if I'm watching the Disney Channel with my kids and a preview to a rated R moving comes on, I'm likely to write a letter or send an email. I will stand on my convictions and stand by my principles. I'm not looking to be offended, but I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out that someone's behavior is offensive. I try my best not to offend people, so I don't talk about certain things in front of people I do not know.

macpatti

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

If you don't like it, don't look at it, right?!

If there's a show on tv that offends you, what do you do?

Do you write to the station and tell them, or do you just turn the channel?

I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF>

I've replied to this. I'm really hoping we're having a constructive discussion here. Why do people who cuss every other word, talk graphically about sex or body parts, or use other vulgar words think it's everyone else's problem if they're offended? Surely even the people who use those words realize not everyone else appreciates them. I'm just talking about common courtesy and respect for people.

FearAnLoathing

Can't you do it "here", but on your profile page with just your own friends? There's a time and place for all that, which is fine. But, jumping into other threads with that stuff isn't appropriate because you don't know who you may be offending. Like, I'll put things on my own profile page here that I won't put on the forums because of the rules. It's just a way of respecting everyone. Just my humble opinion.

Thats just it they are brining in new rules about what we are allowed to say on our friends profiles

sunyg

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

If you don't like it, don't look at it, right?!

If there's a show on tv that offends you, what do you do?

Do you write to the station and tell them, or do you just turn the channel?

I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF>

I've replied to this. I'm really hoping we're having a constructive discussion here. Why do people who cuss every other word, talk graphically about sex or body parts, or use other vulgar words think it's everyone else's problem if they're offended? Surely even the people who use those words realize not everyone else appreciates them. I'm just talking about common courtesy and respect for people.

Because it should be someone's right to say what they want to on their own page. Just as it would be your right to delete them as a friend.

macpatti

Can't you do it "here", but on your profile page with just your own friends? There's a time and place for all that, which is fine. But, jumping into other threads with that stuff isn't appropriate because you don't know who you may be offending. Like, I'll put things on my own profile page here that I won't put on the forums because of the rules. It's just a way of respecting everyone. Just my humble opinion.

Thats just it they are brining in new rules about what we are allowed to say on our friends profiles

Well, that I don't understand!

crisanderson27

I think you're missing my point. If it's a thread that I'm in, I'm learning something, sharing experiences, or congratulating someone. When someone posts something offensive, I don't know it's offensive until AFTER I've read it. Once I've read it, I will address it, just as I would "in real life". If it's a radio station or a television show, I can change the station. I can also avoid going to those stations, (MTV, rap stations, etc). However, if I'm watching the Disney Channel with my kids and a preview to a rated R moving comes on, I'm likely to write a letter or send an email. I will stand on my convictions and stand by my principles. I'm not looking to be offended, but I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out that someone's behavior is offensive. I try my best not to offend people, so I don't talk about certain things in front of people I do not know.

I don't think anyone disagrees that certain threads shouldn't be cleaned up, or moderated, or people warned/banned etc...ON THE GENERAL FORUMS. You're not learning anything particularly health related in the chit chat area...and that's where the majority of this issue started. Even there...if a thread is on one topic, and someone came in and posted clearly just to be offensive etc...I can see it being removed and appropriate action taken.

I had my 'Booty Thursday' post locked...due to all this garbage. Only a couple of the profile pictures were of women in panties (which showed no more than a typical 13yr olds bathing suit I might add)...yet due to this whole 'PG-13' thing, it was locked.

Mike, I love your site...I do, and I very, VERY much appreciate it, and respect the rules you've chosen to implement. But I think this is the wrong path...simply because by choosing to cater to the few...you're eventually going to offend the many. You say you don't want people to act in certain ways which may cause this or that person to leave. Well, the problem is...by moderating things to the extent they've been moderated lately...the many are looking for somewhere else to take their online time. It's a lose/lose...and I don't envy you...but I hope you can find a middle ground. If the majority of my friends go, and I'm not allowed to say boo, whether in the forums or on my own wall...I've no reason to be here either.

And as you can probably tell by looking through my posts...I'm not a party of either extreme, at all.

Just an unasked for opinion from a member who genuinely cares.

macpatti

The only thing that bothers me about any of this, is that we're required to be 18 to sign up, right?! So why do we have to use language that is acceptable for 13 year olds?

Again, not all "adults" like to speak/hear/read crude, vulgar and other offensive words and/or phrases. I'm not talking about cussing, necessarily. I'm talking more about graphic sexual discussions, sexist comments, and bullying. I'll always speak up about those things in real life, so I will here, too. I won't go looking for it, but if I see it in a thread I'm in, I'm likely to address it.

If you don't like it, don't look at it, right?!

If there's a show on tv that offends you, what do you do?

Do you write to the station and tell them, or do you just turn the channel?

I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF>

I've replied to this. I'm really hoping we're having a constructive discussion here. Why do people who cuss every other word, talk graphically about sex or body parts, or use other vulgar words think it's everyone else's problem if they're offended? Surely even the people who use those words realize not everyone else appreciates them. I'm just talking about common courtesy and respect for people.

Because it should be someone's right to say what they want to on their own page. Just as it would be your right to delete them as a friend.

I'm totally agreeing with you about people's pages and what we post on each other's walls. I'm only talking about public forums here.

crisanderson27

By the way, macpatti...my profile picture was my 'Booty Thursday' picture.

macpatti

I think you're missing my point. If it's a thread that I'm in, I'm learning something, sharing experiences, or congratulating someone. When someone posts something offensive, I don't know it's offensive until AFTER I've read it. Once I've read it, I will address it, just as I would "in real life". If it's a radio station or a television show, I can change the station. I can also avoid going to those stations, (MTV, rap stations, etc). However, if I'm watching the Disney Channel with my kids and a preview to a rated R moving comes on, I'm likely to write a letter or send an email. I will stand on my convictions and stand by my principles. I'm not looking to be offended, but I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out that someone's behavior is offensive. I try my best not to offend people, so I don't talk about certain things in front of people I do not know.

I don't think anyone disagrees that certain threads shouldn't be cleaned up, or moderated, or people warned/banned etc...ON THE GENERAL FORUMS. You're not learning anything particularly health related in the chit chat area...and that's where the majority of this issue started. Even there...if a thread is on one topic, and someone came in and posted clearly just to be offensive etc...I can see it being removed and appropriate action taken.

I had my 'Booty Thursday' post locked...due to all this garbage. Only a couple of the profile pictures were of women in panties (which showed no more than a typical 13yr olds bathing suit I might add)...yet due to this whole 'PG-13' thing, it was locked.

Mike, I love your site...I do, and I very, VERY much appreciate it, and respect the rules you've chosen to implement. But I think this is the wrong path...simply because by choosing to cater to the few...you're eventually going to offend the many. You say you don't want people to act in certain ways which may cause this or that person to leave. Well, the problem is...by moderating things to the extent they've been moderated lately...the many are looking for somewhere else to take their online time. It's a lose/lose...and I don't envy you...but I hope you can find a middle ground. If the majority of my friends go, and I'm not allowed to say boo, whether in the forums or on my own wall...I've no reason to be here either.

And as you can probably tell by looking through my posts...I'm not a party of either extreme, at all.

Just an unasked for opinion from a member who genuinely cares.

Booty Thursday is a good example here. When I saw the topic title, I did not even open it. I figured it could get racy, which is fine for those in that thread. I would never go to the thread, look through it, find an inappropriate picture, then report it. Anyone doing that is just looking to be offended.

koosdel

I swear
I say what I am feeling
If someone is being rude to me, I tell them I won't tolerate that
I talk about sex with my friends...all the time and graphically
I laugh at stupid people
I get snarky
I flirt....with everyone
I can be a b*tch sometimes
I play truth or dare
I show off my boobs
I get into arguements


So tell me, why shouldn't I be able to do that here too?

I say you should. Being all sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more.
I'm curious how they get through life, being offended at every turn? It must be miserable to be that puny.

And another thing, PG-13 means 'content may not be suitable for children, parents strongly advised'.

macpatti

By the way, macpatti...my profile picture was my 'Booty Thursday' picture.

I think it's cool that many people who have lost weight and gained some confidence are ready to flaunt their new bodies! Like I said, I didn't look through that thread because 1. I'm not going to post a pic of my booty and 2. I figured that was a good place for people to post comments about body parts. Which is fine, because that's exactly what the topic said it was about.

macpatti

I say you should. Being all sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more.
I'm curious how they get through life, being offended at every turn? It must be miserable to be that puny.

And another thing, PG-13 means 'content may not be suitable for children, parents strongly advised'.
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I've never heard that "being sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more". I am not offended at every turn, and I get along in life well. I'm not puny nor miserable. I care about others' feelings. I care whether I'm offending someone else. I'm sensitive to others because we're all human beings. Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it the right thing to do.

_beachgirl_

I say you should. Being all sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more.
I'm curious how they get through life, being offended at every turn? It must be miserable to be that puny.

And another thing, PG-13 means 'content may not be suitable for children, parents strongly advised'.

I've never heard that "being sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more". I am not offended at every turn, and I get along in life well. I'm not puny nor miserable. I care about others' feelings. I care whether I'm offending someone else. I'm sensitive to others because we're all human beings. Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it the right thing to do.
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Macpatti, I appreciate you discussing this issue, but you aren't really the problem! You have your opinions yes, but like you said you don't go into threads that you know you won't like, when you click on a thread that is not something you are interested in discussing you leave.

I'm sure most of us agree that if someone posts a response that has nothing to do with the thread's topic, is offensive, or is verbally abusive that is not right.

macpatti

I say you should. Being all sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more.
I'm curious how they get through life, being offended at every turn? It must be miserable to be that puny.

And another thing, PG-13 means 'content may not be suitable for children, parents strongly advised'.

I've never heard that "being sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more". I am not offended at every turn, and I get along in life well. I'm not puny nor miserable. I care about others' feelings. I care whether I'm offending someone else. I'm sensitive to others because we're all human beings. Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Macpatti, I appreciate you discussing this issue, but you aren't really the problem! You have your opinions yes, but like you said you don't go into threads that you know you won't like, when you click on a thread that is not something you are interested in discussing you leave.

I'm sure most of us agree that if someone posts a response that has nothing to do with the thread's topic, is offensive, or is verbally abusive that is not right.
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Ahhhh.....I see. Well, the people who are going around looking to be offended have their own issues. I just saw another thread, so I'm starting to get the picture here. I agree with the point you're trying to make then! Glad we were able to "agree to disagree" without anyone getting offended!

koosdel

I say you should. Being all sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more.
I'm curious how they get through life, being offended at every turn? It must be miserable to be that puny.

And another thing, PG-13 means 'content may not be suitable for children, parents strongly advised'.

I've never heard that "being sensitive to feelings only weakens them even more". I am not offended at every turn, and I get along in life well. I'm not puny nor miserable. I care about others' feelings. I care whether I'm offending someone else. I'm sensitive to others because we're all human beings. Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it the right thing to do.
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Well now you have! Lol!

crisanderson27

Glad we were able to "agree to disagree" without anyone getting offended!

Which is what self respecting adults do lol.

Go figure =D.

_beachgirl_

quote]Glad we were able to "agree to disagree" without anyone getting offended!

Which is what self respecting adults do lol.

Go figure =D.
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I said this is another thread earlier. to the mods in regards to the policing of our walls...

You seem to be more concerned with the small stuff (swearing, raunchy behavior) than the big stuff (people who harass other members, predators, false accounts).
You forget this is an over 18 site. We are adults. We can choose our friends. We can delete or block people whose opinions we don't like, who offend us, who send us inappropriate pm's.
This is your latest knee-jerk reaction to what I am sure is only a handful of complaints. You are trying to control the whole for a few who are offended. Why don't you sit back and wait? See how it plays out?

This thread is a prime example of sitting back and seeing how it plays out.

macpatti

quote]Glad we were able to "agree to disagree" without anyone getting offended!

Which is what self respecting adults do lol.

Go figure =D.

I said this is another thread earlier. to the mods in regards to the policing of our walls...

You seem to be more concerned with the small stuff (swearing, raunchy behavior) than the big stuff (people who harass other members, predators, false accounts).
You forget this is an over 18 site. We are adults. We can choose our friends. We can delete or block people whose opinions we don't like, who offend us, who send us inappropriate pm's.
This is your latest knee-jerk reaction to what I am sure is only a handful of complaints. You are trying to control the whole for a few who are offended. Why don't you sit back and wait? See how it plays out?

This thread is a prime example of sitting back and seeing how it plays out.
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No way! I am far more concerned with harassment, stalkers, and false accounts! I totally agree with you about posting whatever we want on our own walls or on our friends's walls. I am only referring to the trolls who jump in a thread with the intention of offending, or those who will comment in an otherwise 'decent' thread with something xrated or over the top vulgar. I don't report anything......I usually comment myself. I'm not trying to police or control the whole. I'm trying to point out that there is a place for certain discussions. I would love to see an "Adult Only" section (and I'm using that term like they do for "Adult Book Stores" or "Adult Video Stores". It lets others know that the content may be offensive to some.

crisanderson27

No way! I am far more concerned with harassment, stalkers, and false accounts! I totally agree with you about posting whatever we want on our own walls or on our friends's walls. I am only referring to the trolls who jump in a thread with the intention of offending, or those who will comment in an otherwise 'decent' thread with something xrated or over the top vulgar. I don't report anything......I usually comment myself. I'm not trying to police or control the whole. I'm trying to point out that there is a place for certain discussions. I would love to see an "Adult Only" section (and I'm using that term like they do for "Adult Book Stores" or "Adult Video Stores". It lets others know that the content may be offensive to some.

The quotes got messed up hun.

This:

You seem to be more concerned with the small stuff (swearing, raunchy behavior) than the big stuff (people who harass other members, predators, false accounts).
You forget this is an over 18 site. We are adults. We can choose our friends. We can delete or block people whose opinions we don't like, who offend us, who send us inappropriate pm's.
This is your latest knee-jerk reaction to what I am sure is only a handful of complaints. You are trying to control the whole for a few who are offended. Why don't you sit back and wait? See how it plays out?

Is what she said in another thread in regards to the mods.

macpatti

No way! I am far more concerned with harassment, stalkers, and false accounts! I totally agree with you about posting whatever we want on our own walls or on our friends's walls. I am only referring to the trolls who jump in a thread with the intention of offending, or those who will comment in an otherwise 'decent' thread with something xrated or over the top vulgar. I don't report anything......I usually comment myself. I'm not trying to police or control the whole. I'm trying to point out that there is a place for certain discussions. I would love to see an "Adult Only" section (and I'm using that term like they do for "Adult Book Stores" or "Adult Video Stores". It lets others know that the content may be offensive to some.

The quotes got messed up hun.

This:

You seem to be more concerned with the small stuff (swearing, raunchy behavior) than the big stuff (people who harass other members, predators, false accounts).
You forget this is an over 18 site. We are adults. We can choose our friends. We can delete or block people whose opinions we don't like, who offend us, who send us inappropriate pm's.
This is your latest knee-jerk reaction to what I am sure is only a handful of complaints. You are trying to control the whole for a few who are offended. Why don't you sit back and wait? See how it plays out?

Is what she said in another thread in regards to the mods.

Oh! Gotcha.