Diet Soda

ElusiveOly

Does it count as a water?

tayniicole

I count it in my water intake, since the first ingredient is carbonated water

MissFit0101

No I wouldn't log it as water.

rosebarnalice

I count it as water ONLY if it has no caffeine OR sodium. But the "no sodium" is VERY rare.

If it has either, I log it as a "snack" since caffeine is a dehydrator and too much sodium means needing more water to flush it out. Either way, it means I have to drink MORE water not less!

monkeefun

I'd say no. I know there are scientific reasons behind my logic involving all the things they put it into it, but at the very least with the sodium and whatnot it doesn't count as water .

vim_n_vigor

If all you are going to drink is diet soda - probably not a good idea to count it. 1 a day, probably fine.

nickyskins

If I have one a day I do not count it.

vwbug86

One of my friends has diverticulitis and her doc says the only thing that counts as water is water.

Jorra

Absolutely not. Soda dehydrates your body so you're gonna need MORE water to make up for it.

I wouldn't count it as water unless it's nothing but water. No additives.

Crooks0204

Everyone is gonna have a different opinion but I was told by my family doc that if it is caffiene free you can count it towards your water intake. Also you should drink a bottle of water for every can of soda you drink!

glenr79

It definitley does not count as water. Diet soda is harmful to your health. One a day is kind of acceptable.. but 2 or more is harmful. It has a chemical in it called Aspartame which is also used in rat poison. Diet soda's give you migraine head aches, increase blood pressure, raise cholesterol levels, it has simple carbs which spike insulin levels which in turn make you crave more food... but also takes that food and stores it as fat, Please don't drink diet soda's and start ddrinking more water!! you will lose a ton of weight and feel a lot better and healthier!!! I had to give a presentation about this in my nutrition class so it is something I feel very strongly about!

Does it count as a water?

merrillfoster

Might as well count it. It's more water than anything else--if, for example, you were stranded on a desert island with nothing but soda, you would not die of dehydration (so the 'caffeine dehydrates you' argument is out). It's probably not as good for you (ok, definitely not) as pure water, but I think it still counts.

HMonsterX

Ofc it counts! The caffeine does NOT dehydr....

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dcfl2012

Replace that soda with a flavored seltzer no calories, no sodium ! Try "Nestle' Pure Life" in raspberry lime Ditch the diet soda -watch the weight drop ! Good luck!

merrillfoster

Diet soda's give you migraine head aches, increase blood pressure, raise cholesterol levels, it has simple carbs which spike insulin levels which in turn make you crave more food...

Does it count as a water?

Diet soda doesn't have any carbs, and while it may have these other effects in some people, it is certainly not across the board. I, for example, drink several per day, and have for years, and have experienced none of these side effects.

KeriA

If you are talking about water as in helpful to weightloss I wouldn't. It is also debatable as in what your body needs as liquid.

glenr79

you are young, it is a proven fact that after about 7 years of drinking 2 or more 70% of those people start to exerience those effects... it has artificial sweetners which are super harmful to your health...

Diet soda's give you migraine head aches, increase blood pressure, raise cholesterol levels, it has simple carbs which spike insulin levels which in turn make you crave more food...

Does it count as a water?

Diet soda doesn't have any carbs, and while it may have these other effects in some people, it is certainly not across the board. I, for example, drink several per day, and have for years, and have experienced none of these side effects.

prestonmay

I have a Phd in Bioinformatics --- When in Grad School --- I asked a Nobel Peace Price Biologist who have based his life work on --- this question. Hate to bust a MYTH--- He said HECK YES -- IT COUNTS.... I myself drink 2 gallons of water a day to hydrate my muscles not to lose weight. He said ..... diet soda vs water has very little difference in their make up (minus sodium , chlorine, minerals and sweetener). If one is eating right the foods you eat have enough fluid to sustain what fluid is needed by the body... Hey my field is in in Neural Networks and Robotics ....If I am not 100% sure , I do what is most safe..................................... It is possible to consume TOO much water also or fluids

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Too much of anything can be bad to you health.

Another Behavioral Psychologist said when studied , the placebo group when tested was just as hydrated as the water group. Remember this study was testing HYDRATION and that's it.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=591586

If you want more solid research that is based on empirical data...look in Pub Med or Lexus Nexus which have tons of research data. Basically fluid is fluid = 97percent of the articles I read.

Thinking today has changed somewhat with regard to water intake.
Previously, coffee and soda were not counted as water intake, because
soda and coffee contain sodium/caffeine that can retain fluid (sodium)
and cause a fluid loss (caffeine). Research has shown that people that
regularly drink coffee and sodas do not experience the water loss/gain
as casual consumers of such beverages. Also, water intake should be
consistent with our environment and activities, and not a one size
fits all.


?ome nutritionists insist that half the country is walking around
dehydrated. We drink too much coffee, tea and sodas containing
caffeine, which prompts the body to lose water, they say; and when we
are dehydrated, we don't know enough to drink.?


?Regular coffee and tea drinkers become accustomed to caffeine and
lose little, if any, fluid. In a study published in the October issue
of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, researchers at
the Center for Human Nutrition in Omaha measured how different
combinations of water, coffee and caffeinated sodas affected the
hydration status of 18 healthy adults who drink caffeinated beverages
routinely.

"We found no significant differences at all," says nutritionist Ann
Grandjean, the study's lead author. "The purpose of the study was to
find out if caffeine is dehydrating in healthy people who are drinking
normal amounts of it. It is not."
The same goes for tea, juice, milk and caffeinated sodas: One glass
provides about the same amount of hydrating fluid as a glass of water.
The only common drinks that produce a net loss of fluids are those
containing alcohol ? and usually it takes more than one of those to
cause noticeable dehydration, doctors say.?

?In general, to remain healthy we need to take in enough water to
replace the amount we lose daily through excretion, perspiration, and
other bodily functions, but that amount can vary widely from person to
person, based upon a variety of factors such as age, physical
condition, activity level, and climate. The "8-10 glasses of water per
day" is a rule of thumb, not an absolute minimum, and not of all of
our water intake need come in the form of drinking water.
The origins of the 8-10 glasses per day figure remain elusive. As a
recent Los Angeles Times article on the subject reported:

Consider that first commandment of good health: Drink at least eight
8-ounce glasses of water a day. This unquestioned rule is itself a
question mark. Most nutritionists have no idea where it comes from. "I
can't even tell you that," says Barbara Rolls, a nutrition researcher
at Pennsylvania State University, "and I've written a book on water."

Some say the number was derived from fluid intake measurements taken
decades ago among hospital patients on IVs; others say it's less a
measure of what people need than a convenient reference point,
especially for those who are prone to dehydration, such as many
elderly people.?

?The consensus seems to be that the average person loses ten cups
(where one cup = eight ounces) of fluid per day but also takes in four
cups of water from food, leaving a need to drink only six glasses to
make up the difference, a bit short of the recommended eight to ten
glasses per day. But according to the above-cited article, medical
experts don't agree that even that much water is necessary:
Kidney specialists do agree on one thing, however: that the 8-by-8
rule is a gross overestimate of any required minimum. To replace daily
losses of water, an average-sized adult with healthy kidneys sitting
in a temperate climate needs no more than one liter of fluid,
according to Jurgen Schnermann, a kidney physiologist at the National
Institutes of Health.

One liter is the equivalent of about four 8-ounce glasses. According
to most estimates, that's roughly the amount of water most Americans
get in solid food. In short, though doctors don't recommend it, many
of us could cover our bare-minimum daily water needs without drinking
anything during the day.?

ninerbuff

Well no since it's soda and not water.

Victoriav99

NO WAY!!! But It is definitely think of diet soda as my treat!

Elizabeth_C34

Ofc it counts! The caffeine does NOT dehydr....

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kbwdad

I don't know if you can count it as water but I have been doing my own research concerning diet sodas. Over the past two years I lost 80 pounds, during my weight loss venture I could walk by a table full of sweets, cakes, fatty foods etc and not even get tempted to touch it. After I reached my goal weight I eased up and started enjoying a few of the foods that I had given up. What a mistake, before I knew it I gained 20 lbs. What puzzled me was that I was still keeping track and staying within my calorie range and doing Triathlon training I still gained weight. The one big thing I was doing different is I started drinking a 32 OZ cup of Diet Coke after work everyday, cravings and eating increased. I'm starting to believe that diet sodas will hamper in some way your ability to lose weight even if you do the right things. Pure water is best thing you can drink.

prestonmay

and you should:drinker: A guy drank 6 pack of Mich Ultra a day but stayed under calorie goal of 2 lbs a week. He lost 14 in 1 month. He did the same test with water and lost 6 . Their are mitigating factors that make this test not reliable, but what effects one body may not do the same to another. Like the MFP nutrition guide is RDA---definitely not catered for a fitness model or body builder.......40% carbs 40% protein and 20% fat is the best combo to lose fat and build muscle in "MOST" , not all .

glenr79

You are exactly right!! That is what the artificial sweetners in diet soda's do... they spike insulin levels which make you crave other foods more!! make sure you stay away from them!

I don't know if you can count it as water but I have been doing my own research concerning diet sodas. Over the past two years I lost 80 pounds, during my weight loss venture I could walk by a table full of sweets, cakes, fatty foods etc and not even get tempted to touch it. After I reached my goal weight I eased up and started enjoying a few of the foods that I had given up. What a mistake, before I knew it I gained 20 lbs. What puzzled me was that I was still keeping track and staying within my calorie range and doing Triathlon training I still gained weight. The one big thing I was doing different is I started drinking a 32 OZ cup of Diet Coke after work everyday, cravings and eating increased. I'm starting to believe that diet sodas will hamper in some way your ability to lose weight even if you do the right things. Pure water is best thing you can drink.

mfpgeezy

so im thinkin that diet soda is diet soda and water is water....so i dont see how diet soda= water...

HMonsterX

so im thinkin that diet soda is diet soda and water is water....so i dont see how diet soda= water...

You don't think diet soda has WATER in it?

mfpgeezy

so im thinkin that diet soda is diet soda and water is water....so i dont see how diet soda= water...

You don't think diet soda has WATER in it?

i didnt say it doesnt contain water, im sayin it isnt water... lol

DrG3n3

Except that it is mostly water.


And I have to say, I'm with the folks with the research to back it up.

As well as the research to back up moderately consuming artificial sweeteners.

But hey, it's the scientist in me.

tigersword

It definitley does not count as water. Diet soda is harmful to your health. One a day is kind of acceptable.. but 2 or more is harmful. It has a chemical in it called Aspartame which is also used in rat poison. Diet soda's give you migraine head aches, increase blood pressure, raise cholesterol levels, it has simple carbs which spike insulin levels which in turn make you crave more food... but also takes that food and stores it as fat, Please don't drink diet soda's and start ddrinking more water!! you will lose a ton of weight and feel a lot better and healthier!!! I had to give a presentation about this in my nutrition class so it is something I feel very strongly about!

Does it count as a water?

I hope you can show some proof of these wild, outlandish, and completely false claims about aspartame and diet soda.

cobracars

Well of COURSE Aspartame is used in rat poison, but it isn't there to kill the rats, its there to attract them to the poison by its sweet taste.

Just because something is included in posion doesn't make it in and of itself a poison.
Just becasue something says its "all natural" doesn't mean its good for you...arsenic is "all natural"

Just be smart about what you're eating and drinking.
I refuse to drink diet soda because if I truly want a soft drink I want it with ALL THE SUGAR and ALL THE CAFFEINE!
I'll walk an extra 45 minutes or I'll eat a couple hundred calories less during the day and then I've earned it!
Imported original Coca Cola made with real suger is a once-in-awhile treat, like once a week. I have a whole case of them waiting, whispering my name...

DrG3n3

Well of COURSE Aspartame is used in rat poison, but it isn't there to kill the rats, its there to attract them to the poison by its sweet taste.

Just because something is included in posion doesn't make it in and of itself a poison.
Just becasue something says its "all natural" doesn't mean its good for you...arsenic is "all natural"

Just be smart about what you're eating and drinking.
I refuse to drink diet soda because if I truly want a soft drink I want it with ALL THE SUGAR and ALL THE CAFFEINE!
I'll walk an extra 45 minutes or I'll eat a couple hundred calories less during the day and then I've earned it!
Imported original Coca Cola made with real suger is a once-in-awhile treat, like once a week. I have a whole case of them waiting, whispering my name...

I enjoy the pepsi's that have real sugar in them occasionally as a treat ^^ I'm a sucker for pepsi.