The Chemical Cause of obesity
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Michael Pollan's "In Defense Of Food" is an extremely informative and interesting book about how complicated the whole food situation is in the US. Yes, it's as simple as eating better, but that's not always so simple itself.
I recommend this book highly.0 -
Yeah, get an environmentalist to say that chemicals are causing issues and he'll get a grant from the government to study it more..........................http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
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http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
Oh look another excuse for people to use on why they're fat and then stuff their faces with chips. It's not the chips, it's the chemical contaminants.
I've recently been watching a few weight loss programmes on TV for motivation and one of them takes fat families and puts them through tests that debunks all their 'I'm fat because I'm big boned' or 'I'm fat because of genetics' and shows them that really they're just lying to themselves over the bad food choices they are making.
Stuff like this really annoys me.0 -
Okay, so. What about the availability of healthy food? The expense of it?http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
Oh look another excuse for people to use on why they're fat and then stuff their faces with chips. It's not the chips, it's the chemical contaminants.
I've recently been watching a few weight loss programmes on TV for motivation and one of them takes fat families and puts them through tests that debunks all their 'I'm fat because I'm big boned' or 'I'm fat because of genetics' and shows them that really they're just lying to themselves over the bad food choices they are making.
Stuff like this really annoys me.
Calorie for calorie, it's often easier to get crappy food and a lot cheaper. Especially in urban settings. McDonald's, until recently, had a pretty big presence in school cafeterias, complete with super-sized HFC-filled sodas. It's about culture. Not everything is that simple, it's a very complex problem. YES, it's about making healthy choices, but there are often a lot of obstacles in the way.0 -
Okay, so. What about the availability of healthy food? The expense of it?http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
Oh look another excuse for people to use on why they're fat and then stuff their faces with chips. It's not the chips, it's the chemical contaminants.
I've recently been watching a few weight loss programmes on TV for motivation and one of them takes fat families and puts them through tests that debunks all their 'I'm fat because I'm big boned' or 'I'm fat because of genetics' and shows them that really they're just lying to themselves over the bad food choices they are making.
Stuff like this really annoys me.
Calorie for calorie, it's often easier to get crappy food and a lot cheaper. Especially in urban settings. McDonald's, until recently, had a pretty big presence in school cafeterias, complete with super-sized HFC-filled sodas. It's about culture. Not everything is that simple, it's a very complex problem. YES, it's about making healthy choices, but there are often a lot of obstacles in the way.
Yes and no.
Yes some people can't afford the best kinds of food.
And here's the no.
Here's a newsflash, not all of them are fat. Why? Because they don't eat too much.0 -
Okay, so. What about the availability of healthy food? The expense of it?http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
Oh look another excuse for people to use on why they're fat and then stuff their faces with chips. It's not the chips, it's the chemical contaminants.
I've recently been watching a few weight loss programmes on TV for motivation and one of them takes fat families and puts them through tests that debunks all their 'I'm fat because I'm big boned' or 'I'm fat because of genetics' and shows them that really they're just lying to themselves over the bad food choices they are making.
Stuff like this really annoys me.
Calorie for calorie, it's often easier to get crappy food and a lot cheaper. Especially in urban settings. McDonald's, until recently, had a pretty big presence in school cafeterias, complete with super-sized HFC-filled sodas. It's about culture. Not everything is that simple, it's a very complex problem. YES, it's about making healthy choices, but there are often a lot of obstacles in the way.
Speaking from experience I've found it's MUCH cheaper to eat one serving of broccoli, one serving of chicken, and one serving of brown rice, compared to the 3 or 4 servings of each I was having before.
The argument that it's more expensive to eat healthy doesn't hold water. My broccoli, chicken, rice meal costs about $4. Ever seen an obese person spend less than $4 at McDonalds. I never did.0 -
Speaking from experience I've found it's MUCH cheaper to eat one serving of broccoli, one serving of chicken, and one serving of brown rice, compared to the 3 or 4 servings of each I was having before.
The argument that it's more expensive to eat healthy doesn't hold water. My broccoli, chicken, rice meal costs about $4. Ever seen an obese person spend less than $4 at McDonalds. I never did.
Yeah I was going to say carrots, rice, celery, peanut butter, and lettuce are all very cheap. A lot of the problem is people don't cook anymore, they eat out so often.0 -
Yeah, get an environmentalist to say that chemicals are causing issues and he'll get a grant from the government to study it more..........................http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
If governments have funds to give out, environmental study is a good way to spend it. That way we can do better preventive medicine.
Precisely.0 -
Plus, other than weight gain, there are other good reasons to avoid plastics. Because they are estrogen mimics, they are leading to the decline of the male principle in nature. Estrogen and estrogen mimic pollution in the Thames river is causing a decline sperm count in men. In the St Laurence river, downstream from the Great Lakes and the big industrial cities, fish and whales are inter-sex. This means that their gonads are both male and female at once. Male gonads are full of eggs, for example. I have a personal suspicion that the growth of gay culture may have a biological base in a supply of drinking water loaded with estrogen. Studies documenting this stuff are all available by doing a search on google.
It's interesting to see that it has an impact on fat as well, though I agree with most posting here that the supersize phenomenon is also a great cause of obesity.0 -
Okay, so. What about the availability of healthy food? The expense of it?http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/18497/Default.aspx
This interview gives some indicators as to how certain chemical contaminants in our food supply might be causing endocrine balances that are making us obese.
Oh look another excuse for people to use on why they're fat and then stuff their faces with chips. It's not the chips, it's the chemical contaminants.
I've recently been watching a few weight loss programmes on TV for motivation and one of them takes fat families and puts them through tests that debunks all their 'I'm fat because I'm big boned' or 'I'm fat because of genetics' and shows them that really they're just lying to themselves over the bad food choices they are making.
Stuff like this really annoys me.
Calorie for calorie, it's often easier to get crappy food and a lot cheaper. Especially in urban settings. McDonald's, until recently, had a pretty big presence in school cafeterias, complete with super-sized HFC-filled sodas. It's about culture. Not everything is that simple, it's a very complex problem. YES, it's about making healthy choices, but there are often a lot of obstacles in the way.
Umm... McDonald's combo seven bucks maybe? The grilled chicken breast and rice I'm planning for dinner 1.15$. What does an urban setting have to do with anything? Are brains smaller there?0 -
Plus, other than weight gain, there are other good reasons to avoid plastics. Because they are estrogen mimics, they are leading to the decline of the male principle in nature. Estrogen and estrogen mimic pollution in the Thames river is causing a decline sperm count in men. In the St Laurence river, downstream from the Great Lakes and the big industrial cities, fish and whales are inter-sex. This means that their gonads are both male and female at once. Male gonads are full of eggs, for example. I have a personal suspicion that the growth of gay culture may have a biological base in a supply of drinking water loaded with estrogen. Studies documenting this stuff are all available by doing a search on google.
It's interesting to see that it has an impact on fat as well, though I agree with most posting here that the supersize phenomenon is also a great cause of obesity.
Well that explains why I feel bloated today. Damn municipal water.0 -
You guys are naive if you think that your weight is ONLY related to the amount you eat versus the amount of calories you expend.
I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I have no idea what caused it. It's probably genetic, because it goes back several generations, and I'm not going to blame it on food contamination, since my grandma has it too, and she grows 80% of what she eats.
However, I get really pissed when people say that hormones don't play a factor in weight loss.
No, hormones should not be used as an excuse to stay a healthy weight, but if your hormones are off, it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to lose weight.
When I tried counting calories and working out a lot, I did lose a few pounds, but I was tired and hungry all the time. It wasn't worth it. Now that my hormones are balanced better, I am not as hungry, and I have more energy. I don't even have to count calories anymore and the weight is starting to fall off.
I also get a little pissed about people blaming homosexuality on the water. There have been gay people long before water was being treated. Just because they were in the closet doesn't mean they didn't exist.0 -
In the Philippines, healthy food is expensive and I mean really expensive. Many of the population eat the same processed, cheap foods we do, but the population doesn't suffer from being overweight or obese.
Okay, so. What about the availability of healthy food? The expense of it?
Calorie for calorie, it's often easier to get crappy food and a lot cheaper. Especially in urban settings. McDonald's, until recently, had a pretty big presence in school cafeterias, complete with super-sized HFC-filled sodas. It's about culture. Not everything is that simple, it's a very complex problem. YES, it's about making healthy choices, but there are often a lot of obstacles in the way.
There has been a nutrition professor and one other author who documented (on film) eating nothing but junk food and losing weight, having their cholesterol go lower and their triglycerides reduce.
Weight loss basically comes down to calories in and out. You can enhance it with better food choices, but you lose weight when you're in consistent deficit.0 -
We have preventive medicine already for weight gain................it's called "don't eat too much".
If governments have funds to give out, environmental study is a good way to spend it. That way we can do better preventive medicine.0 -
While it's true that hormones do play a role (as well as genetics), the majority of people who are overweight/obese got that way by eating TOO MUCH. That's probably not going to be disputed.You guys are naive if you think that your weight is ONLY related to the amount you eat versus the amount of calories you expend.
I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I have no idea what caused it. It's probably genetic, because it goes back several generations, and I'm not going to blame it on food contamination, since my grandma has it too, and she grows 80% of what she eats.
However, I get really pissed when people say that hormones don't play a factor in weight loss.
No, hormones should not be used as an excuse to stay a healthy weight, but if your hormones are off, it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to lose weight.
When I tried counting calories and working out a lot, I did lose a few pounds, but I was tired and hungry all the time. It wasn't worth it. Now that my hormones are balanced better, I am not as hungry, and I have more energy. I don't even have to count calories anymore and the weight is starting to fall off.
I also get a little pissed about people blaming homosexuality on the water. There have been gay people long before water was being treated. Just because they were in the closet doesn't mean they didn't exist.0 -
You guys are naive if you think that your weight is ONLY related to the amount you eat versus the amount of calories you expend.
I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I have no idea what caused it. It's probably genetic, because it goes back several generations, and I'm not going to blame it on food contamination, since my grandma has it too, and she grows 80% of what she eats.
However, I get really pissed when people say that hormones don't play a factor in weight loss.
You realize that you are NOT representative of the vast majority of the population, right? Hypothyroidism affects around 5% of the population. For the other 95%, it's not relevant.0 -
Plus, other than weight gain, there are other good reasons to avoid plastics. Because they are estrogen mimics, they are leading to the decline of the male principle in nature. Estrogen and estrogen mimic pollution in the Thames river is causing a decline sperm count in men. In the St Laurence river, downstream from the Great Lakes and the big industrial cities, fish and whales are inter-sex. This means that their gonads are both male and female at once. Male gonads are full of eggs, for example. I have a personal suspicion that the growth of gay culture may have a biological base in a supply of drinking water loaded with estrogen. Studies documenting this stuff are all available by doing a search on google.
It's interesting to see that it has an impact on fat as well, though I agree with most posting here that the supersize phenomenon is also a great cause of obesity.
I have also read about the damaging effects of phytoestrogens etc on the endocrine systems of many animals, including humans. So yes, there is something to be concerned about.
But no I don't think it's responsible for the level of obesity we see.0 -
Plus, other than weight gain, there are other good reasons to avoid plastics. Because they are estrogen mimics, they are leading to the decline of the male principle in nature. Estrogen and estrogen mimic pollution in the Thames river is causing a decline sperm count in men. In the St Laurence river, downstream from the Great Lakes and the big industrial cities, fish and whales are inter-sex. This means that their gonads are both male and female at once. Male gonads are full of eggs, for example. I have a personal suspicion that the growth of gay culture may have a biological base in a supply of drinking water loaded with estrogen. Studies documenting this stuff are all available by doing a search on google.
It's interesting to see that it has an impact on fat as well, though I agree with most posting here that the supersize phenomenon is also a great cause of obesity.
Well that explains why I feel bloated today. Damn municipal water.
Don't laugh. Most young men today have half the sperm their fathers did. Which is still plenty, but still..0 -
Plus, other than weight gain, there are other good reasons to avoid plastics. Because they are estrogen mimics, they are leading to the decline of the male principle in nature. Estrogen and estrogen mimic pollution in the Thames river is causing a decline sperm count in men. In the St Laurence river, downstream from the Great Lakes and the big industrial cities, fish and whales are inter-sex. This means that their gonads are both male and female at once. Male gonads are full of eggs, for example. I have a personal suspicion that the growth of gay culture may have a biological base in a supply of drinking water loaded with estrogen. Studies documenting this stuff are all available by doing a search on google.
It's interesting to see that it has an impact on fat as well, though I agree with most posting here that the supersize phenomenon is also a great cause of obesity.
Well that explains why I feel bloated today. Damn municipal water.
Don't laugh. Most young men today have half the sperm their fathers did. Which is still plenty, but still..
How do you know how much sperm my father had?0 -
Plus, other than weight gain, there are other good reasons to avoid plastics. Because they are estrogen mimics, they are leading to the decline of the male principle in nature. Estrogen and estrogen mimic pollution in the Thames river is causing a decline sperm count in men. In the St Laurence river, downstream from the Great Lakes and the big industrial cities, fish and whales are inter-sex. This means that their gonads are both male and female at once. Male gonads are full of eggs, for example. I have a personal suspicion that the growth of gay culture may have a biological base in a supply of drinking water loaded with estrogen. Studies documenting this stuff are all available by doing a search on google.
It's interesting to see that it has an impact on fat as well, though I agree with most posting here that the supersize phenomenon is also a great cause of obesity.
Well that explains why I feel bloated today. Damn municipal water.
Don't laugh. Most young men today have half the sperm their fathers did. Which is still plenty, but still..
How do you know how much sperm my father had?
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