Genetically Modified Fish....WTF

Aross83

Hey,
has anyone else seen this and think its absolutly as crazy as i do...

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/13/fda-supports-selling-genetically-modified-salmon-report


If you have not seen the Documentary Food Inc.. you should absolutly watch it..
Every American should know what goes on with the food we Eat. You can watch it on Netflix Instantly. Check it out!

mrmanmeat

Hey,
has anyone else seen this and think its absolutly as crazy as i do...

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/13/fda-supports-selling-genetically-modified-salmon-report


If you have not seen the Documentary Food Inc.. you should absolutly watch it..
Every American should know what goes on with the food we Eat. You can watch it on Netflix Instantly. Check it out!

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

lockef

Mmmmm... frankenfish!

jrich1

Everything we eat at this point has been genetically modified at some point :laugh:

_Boomerang_

MONSANTOS! YAY!:grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble:

allison_joan

Hey,
has anyone else seen this and think its absolutly as crazy as i do...

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/13/fda-supports-selling-genetically-modified-salmon-report


If you have not seen the Documentary Food Inc.. you should absolutly watch it..
Every American should know what goes on with the food we Eat. You can watch it on Netflix Instantly. Check it out!

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Actually, too many people aren't having too many kids. Yes, the world is very populated but the US and many other developed countries aren't having enough children to sustain human life.

HarlCarl

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Didn't we go over 7 billion recently?

Fairysoul

I think it's gross and who the hell decided it was ok to put chemicals in our food, duh, not the brightest thing there. It makes me sick that the politics allow this to happen, they are literally poising the humans.

allison_joan

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Didn't we go over 7 billion recently?

We are supposed to reach 7 billion sometime next week.

PrincessGlitterTush

Unfortunately this is the natural progression of life. We overfish, we need to find something else to take the place of the animals we consume that are becoming endangered. I'm not sure where I stand on this point as I love animals and the world very much. However people have done this to themselves. The human race has become greedy and wants, wants, wants. This is a solution to a very big problem. I'd rather people eat genetically modified fish than to wipe another species off this planet.

mrmanmeat

Hey,
has anyone else seen this and think its absolutly as crazy as i do...

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/13/fda-supports-selling-genetically-modified-salmon-report


If you have not seen the Documentary Food Inc.. you should absolutly watch it..
Every American should know what goes on with the food we Eat. You can watch it on Netflix Instantly. Check it out!

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Actually, too many people aren't having too many kids. Yes, the world is very populated but the US and many other developed countries aren't having enough children to sustain human life.

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

7 BILLION people.

7. billion.

That's not enough to sustain human life?



Please, tell me you're joking.

joseph9

OP: I hear you, but personally I'm in favor of allowing people to buy GM foods after FDA approval. All products of agriculture are genetically modified, from selective breeding to produce large ears of corn through full on irradiation of seeds to produce new species (pink grapefruit, anyone?).

Mac: I think she means to sustain the population at current levels and just misspoke.

PrincessGlitterTush

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Didn't we go over 7 billion recently?

We are supposed to reach 7 billion sometime next week.

And you don't think thats a lot? The world is overpopulated - and that is a fact!

mrmanmeat

I think it's gross and who the hell decided it was ok to put chemicals in our food, duh, not the brightest thing there. It makes me sick that the politics allow this to happen, they are literally poising the humans.

Once again, maximum production to be able to keep up with the demands of our "underpopulated" world.

mrmanmeat

OP: I hear you, but personally I'm in favor of allowing people to buy GM foods after FDA approval. All products of agriculture are genetically modified, from selective breeding to produce large ears of corn through full on irradiation of seeds to produce new species (pink grapefruit, anyone?).

Mac: I think she means to sustain the population at current levels and just misspoke.

Then go ahead and eat all those chemicals. They're good for you!


We don't need to sustain the population at the current level. We need to knock a few billion off. There should be a limit on how many kids people can have, especially, especially those who can't afford them or require financial help.

joseph9

Then go ahead and eat all those chemicals. They're good for you!

Sounds like we agree! (That's my proposal - that I be allowed to buy GM food if I want, and that you be allowed to live on wild berries if you want.)

Aross83

No way in hell im eating Genetically modified fish. Sorry but after i watched Food Inc I will no longer eat chicken. And i love chicken. thats all i would eat. No more for me unless its kosher or organic. If people take a stand and buy organic it will become less expensive over time.

allison_joan

Hey,
has anyone else seen this and think its absolutly as crazy as i do...

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/13/fda-supports-selling-genetically-modified-salmon-report


If you have not seen the Documentary Food Inc.. you should absolutly watch it..
Every American should know what goes on with the food we Eat. You can watch it on Netflix Instantly. Check it out!

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Actually, too many people aren't having too many kids. Yes, the world is very populated but the US and many other developed countries aren't having enough children to sustain human life.

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

7 BILLION people.

7. billion.

That's not enough to sustain human life?



Please, tell me you're joking.

I'm not joking? I'm actually in a demographic, population & society class right now. Maybe go read a book or just watch the link.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Colinpri1#p/u/0/zBS6f-JVvTY

cdstadt

I think it's sad that more people don't know so much of the food in the US is genetically modified. It's like food is a big secret here.

Basically, if it doesn't say no GMO, you can assume it's genetically modified.

Aross83

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/12/joel-salatin-folks-aint-normal

Check this article out..

dmpizza

All "domestic' food is genetically modified through breeding.
Genetically modifying animals to withstand the rigors of farming is better than pouring chemicals all over them.

I am not a fan of incredibly dense farming, but there are 7 billion people to feed and "organic" is just a quick path to worldwide famine if its scope increases.

allison_joan

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Didn't we go over 7 billion recently?

We are supposed to reach 7 billion sometime next week.

And you don't think thats a lot? The world is overpopulated - and that is a fact!

I also never said that world wasn't overpopulated. I'm not arguing that, all I said was that no, not to many people are having to many babies.

cdstadt

I'm not joking? I'm actually in a demographic, population & society class right now. Maybe go read a book or just watch the link.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Colinpri1#p/u/0/zBS6f-JVvTY

They're talking about human LIFE, not what basically boils down to social security. Not enough new people to support the old? That video didn't mention the death rates on the planet at all. What about the millions of people dying of starvation and hunger related diseases whilst poor, "endangered" first worlders are chowing down of genetically modified animal protein. If we could direct the amount of grain even just the US feeds their livestock we could feed MILLIONS of people.

joseph9

Anyone who hasn't looked up where pink grapefruit comes from has missed out. It's an amazing story.

cdstadt

I am not a fan of incredibly dense farming, but there are 7 billion people to feed and "organic" is just a quick path to worldwide famine if its scope increases.

This wouldn't be true if people ate the same amount of meat that they did 50 years ago

lockef

I think it's fine if they want to sell genetically modify food, BUT ONLY if it's labeled. It should be left to the consumers to decide whether they want to save money on GMO foods, or spend more on the "real thing".









We all know in the US won't put labels on them though.

lockef

All "domestic' food is genetically modified through breeding.

There's a difference from breeding 2 different kinds of cows, and from taking a trait from an insect and putting it into a plant/mammal/fish.

Thomasm198

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, genetically modified fish.




:laugh:

Aross83

Think about it.. If no one bought cheetos.. they wouldnt make them anymore. If people were buying organic chicken and meats.. the demand goes up so therefore more companies would want to provide it.. As Americans we are just use to eating junk. Also i wont eat soy now either.. they spray soy plants with frigging round up weed killer.. sorry if your comfortable with that so be it. But i choose not to be ok with that.. I just think people should have the rite to know how the food is processed and most people have no idea...

Levedi

Hey,
has anyone else seen this and think its absolutly as crazy as i do...

http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/13/fda-supports-selling-genetically-modified-salmon-report


If you have not seen the Documentary Food Inc.. you should absolutly watch it..
Every American should know what goes on with the food we Eat. You can watch it on Netflix Instantly. Check it out!

Part of the problem is the stupid amounts of people we have living on this planet. Too many people having too many kids.

Actually, too many people aren't having too many kids. Yes, the world is very populated but the US and many other developed countries aren't having enough children to sustain human life.

ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

7 BILLION people.

7. billion.

That's not enough to sustain human life?



Please, tell me you're joking.

I'm not joking? I'm actually in a demographic, population & society class right now. Maybe go read a book or just watch the link.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Colinpri1#p/u/0/zBS6f-JVvTY

I know you're not joking, but you've misunderstood the term "replacement rate" in your demographics class. Some countries, such as Japan, are not producing enough children to sustain replacement rate - that is, the 1 to 1 replacement of dead people by new living ones. Countries whose birth rate falls below replacement rate face a number of problems, not least of which is that eventually their civilization could cease to exist - the population will age and deaths will outpace births until there just aren't anymore people in that civilization anymore. That's not the same as having too few people to sustain human life. People don't die from lack of other people - just natural causes.

Very few countries are so isolated that they can really fall below replacement rate at this point. Japan is close, but they solve the problem by allowing a significant number of non-Japanese workers to come into the country each year. Theoretically, immigrants could eventually out number and replace the people of the host country, thereby replacing their culture. If this happens the original culture is considered dead, but that doesn't mean you have a pocket of space where there's no human life. And realistically, the immigrants will likely have an impact on the host culture, but the impact will go both ways, especially if the host country has strong laws and traditions that promote assimilation and privilege one version of culture. Japan, for example, doesn't allow anyone without a native born father to be a citizen. Japanese culture isn't dying, though it is changing. And the islands of Japan are certainly not underpopulated.

Levedi

I am not a fan of incredibly dense farming, but there are 7 billion people to feed and "organic" is just a quick path to worldwide famine if its scope increases.

This wouldn't be true if people ate the same amount of meat that they did 50 years ago

Yup. Unfortunately, you're absolutely right. "Organic" in most cases means going back to the kind of farming methods that modern farming was invented to replace. It's a nice luxury for those of us in first world countries because if an organic crop fails we won't starve. We'll just go back to eating wonder bread. In 3rd world countries "organic' is really just sustenance farming, which means one or two bad harvests and people start to die.

Plus, organic crops are hyper expensive because they are more labor intensive to produce and they have a higher failure and loss rate. For 3rd and 2nd world countries that doesn't translate to healthier eating. Instead, it means people can't afford the food because it's too high priced so they eat less. For people already facing food insufficiency a rise in food prices can mean malnourishment, even starvation.