Whole 30 - November Challenge (Closed Group)

wxkris

I have a question about chocolate. I have seen it mentioned a few times. Is it allowed? What kind?

My impression is that it's allowed, but should be as dark as possible (at least 70%).

momof8munchkins

many paleo primal people enjoy some dark chocolate on occasion.

queenbcronen

I never liked dark chocolate until I became Primal. I bet now if I tried it, I couldn't stand milk chocolate! :bigsmile:

busywaterbending

can the newbies to this group please READ some of the Primal resources available online, instead of asking questions?

This is a motivation and support group, not the 411 operator's PM chat box. Either you are FULL Paleo 30 or you should not be posting in this GROUP that is closed to anyone but those who are commited to PALEO.

Discussions are welcome, annoying questions that you can find for yourself online are not.

jamk1446

can the newbies to this group please READ some of the Primal resources available online, instead of asking questions?

This is a motivation and support group, not the 411 operator's PM chat box. Either you are FULL Paleo 30 or you should not be posting in this GROUP that is closed to anyone but those who are commited to PALEO.

Discussions are welcome, annoying questions that you can find for yourself online are not.

I feel like we had amended this to allow others to adapt the challenge to their needs and we were going to support each other towards that goal. Yes, there are newbies with questions but some people feel better getting a direct response rather than just reading something online, that's part of support and motivation, getting reassurance. Not everyone is as confident in their choices yet as you are. Until now, getting the paleo/ primal community together has been difficult and I think a lot of people were excited to find others on this challenge thread as evidenced by the number of views last month and this month.

The groups feature will make this easier for us to gather but further refine ourselves as regards to our goals, and individual preferences within the paleo/ primal banner. Next month, I think the challenge should be issued within the groups community to allow everyone to have the challenge experience they are after. In fact, it might be good to move that there now- strict paleo 30 challenge on one thread and those following a looser interpretation of the challenge could be on another. BWB, does that solution interest you?

froglegjack

what interests me now after that response is leaving. I will continue without this group and ask questions of reasonable people.
Thanks to those who did respond kindly. Yes I can read. Thanks Bye

nmbasilico

Wait for me, froglegjack! I understand this was a 30 day challenge group, however some of us are still learning. As we have seen, its pretty rough posting questions on the rest of the board.

I will also be continuing this way of life, but I will also be bowing out of the group. Thank you to those who were helpful in getting me started with this way of eating.

questionablemethods

Hey guys. I certainly don't mind questions of any sort. As I understood it, we're all here to support each other and also to challenge one another for a month. Hope you'll stick around. Or join the paleo/primal group, if you haven't already.

For my challenge, I waited until 1pm for lunch! Let's see if I can make it to dinner without an afternoon snack.

busywaterbending

look,

this group allows newbies as long as you are following the paleo 30 guidelines, as posted on page one.

If you can't hang here, so long. We are here to help with the basics and encourage you in your paleo journey, but we will not tell you the basics that you will get on your own with a few minutes of reading off site. (Yes, I feel that it's Good riddance to the fad dieters and those who can't go off site or open Primal or Paleo books! But that's me.) If you are still with us, congrats! We love having you. We love supporting you. We want you to be educated! But we are not the educators here, you are. It is up to you to educate yourself with the most up todate blogs, books, seminars, doctors out there! You can't learn Paleo from this thread or from a MFP group. You just can't, and in good conscience, we old timers can't let you cheat yourself or make the paleo group here look like fad dieters.

Am I harsh? no, because we have a great group here and we deserve to have real Paleo conversations, not talk about if this or that is "paleo" (candy? wtf?), or post fails, and tmi about bloating. Kiss and Cry over food you want to eat is not part of this topic thread.

If you are looking for motivational foods, checkout nomnompaleo.com That gal has a beautiful blog and pictures of food that will inspire you. She's also on facebook. Marksdailyapple.com also has links to amazing sites, cookbooks, etc. Don't be afraid of your oils (coconut, avacado, olive) and fats. Don't forget to have nice meals with delish dishes of veggies and greens.

Be strong!!!!!

nmbasilico

Honestly, I expected that people would be able to post their bumps in the road since it is a support thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has had one, and I know there have been posts by others that have nothing to do with Paleo. Good job to those who have been living this way for years. Really. A lot of people start this to help medical problems. I don't have any, thank God. I learned about this way of eating on this site, I researched many websites, I have books, and I do still have questions. Some of us are eating Primal which is not as cut and dry as Paleo. Some people can handle dairy, some get very ill. Some enjoy a bit of dark chocolate on occasion and some avoid it. Everyone is going to be different. I don't think anyone thinks of joining this group as a fad. Everyone I have seen on here are looking for a better way of life, not to lose 20 pounds in 3 days or something.

I highly doubt this group is only for people who are perfect. No one is perfect. Those new to this way of eating are no less of people or any less dedicated than ones who have been this way for years. It's not right to take a high and mighty postition over them just because they might not know everything yet. Its too bad that this turned into a problem. My family will continue with our healthy lifestyle on our own, individual terms. Best of luck to everyone!

determinedcrystal

Im out of the challenge i broke some of the rules but i decided im going to slip into paleo lifestyle slowly its just hard to do it suddenly but going thru this journey was an experience and everything i learned will not go to waste

msbanana

I haven't been around due to some family issues and I don't post that frequently anyway but

WTF just happened?!? I know this was set up as motivation and support for people doing the whole 30 BUT the whole 30 is HARD when you just start out and there is a CRAP-TON of differing information out there (Take Mark's daily apple for example where it says indulging OCCASIONALLY on dark chocolate, whole dairy or fermented beverages (wine) is totally acceptable for a primal lifestyle where as all of my research on Paleo says no.) Since when can we not ask questions and since when did we start getting judged for them?!

The group was set up (or at least when I joined) as Paleo/Primal support thread. SUPPORT. Who are any of us to judge if someone wants to indulge in some dark chocolate or a glass or 2 of wine. It's their challenge and their success that ultimately is effected. If you don't believe that they should do so why ostracize them? Educate and inform.

Wasn't helping others, doing good in your community etc, etc, all part of the Paleo lifestyle? How is basically telling someone to stick it because you don't feel like answering their question appropriate? Just ignore the freaking question.

If this is the way that this thread is going to go (elitist and judgemental) I'm out. I don't surround myself with those types of people in my everyday life and I won't tolerate it here. Anyone who wants to friend me that hasn't feel free to do so but I'm not going to be around the boards anymore- at least not this one. You can see my successes, failures, hear me ***** about being bloated and I might even tell y'all when I've had a glass of wine but it won't be posted here...

Good luck to everyone in all their adventures.

Grokette

Ok, since we have had an obvious melt down occur here since I have been absent I am in the midst of setting up 2 different Whole 30 groups.

In actuality, I shouldn't have named the other one Whole 30 because it is technically not the Whole 30 challenge.

The actual Whole 30 plan is a cold turkey plan to ween yourself off the sweet, starchy and other cravings and get the body to start the healing process.

A challenge is just what it is, a Challenge............Since when are challenges easy? Personally, I am not one that can ease into something. I have to be all in or out because as long as the crutch is there to lean on the TRUE changes within will never take place.

With that being said, we are all different, have different goals and such so I am setting up 2 groups for challenges. I will be moderating both and will add some additional members to assist as I have a busy time coming up at work and will need help.

I will ask Steve or Mike to lock this thread after I post the group links to this thread.

And I just want to state that I am a member of several other Paleo groups and these people are way worse about letting people "have it" than anyone on this board ever dare speak.

The idea is to encourage, push, support one another - but when one is falling the way to grab and them and pull them up is not to tell them that it is ok to cheat.

Remember, you get out what you put in. If you only put in 50% you are not going to get much back in return.

Grokette

Ok gang -

Here are the groups............

The first one is the hard core we are all in 100% group. Please join if you adhere to Whole 30 concepts and practices nearly 100%

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/439-whole30-motivated-people-only


The second group is for those that follow more of the 80/20 concept as outlined in the Primal Blue Print Challenge guidelines.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/438-primal-paleo-challenges


I want everyone to be happy, healthy, stress free and successful. The only way to be successful though is to find what works for YOU as an individual and go with that. Run with it when you capture the essence of what works for YOU.

This is YOUR journey. Grab it by the horns and run with it!!!

questionablemethods

Ok gang -

Here are the groups............

The first one is the hard core we are all in 100% group. Please join if you adhere to Whole 30 concepts and practices nearly 100%

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/439-whole30-motivated-people-only


The second group is for those that follow more of the 80/20 concept as outlined in the Primal Blue Print Challenge guidelines.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/438-primal-paleo-challenges


I want everyone to be happy, healthy, stress free and successful. The only way to be successful though is to find what works for YOU as an individual and go with that. Run with it when you capture the essence of what works for YOU.

This is YOUR journey. Grab it by the horns and run with it!!!

Thanks Grokette! The links don't seem to be working for me. Are they in the paleo/primal group? Can anyone else get to them?

jamk1446

Thanks Grokette! The links don't seem to be working for me. Are they in the paleo/primal group? Can anyone else get to them?

It didn't work for me either. If they are set to private I think we have to be invited. Thank you for helping us with a solution!

Grokette

Ok ladies, I invited you both to both groups...............

And I made the group public so hopefully no one else will run into that same issue.