Low-Carb Kids?

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A quick Google search yields a lot of websites advising against the use of low-carb diets for children and teens, unless a child is severely overweight. Haven't really seen any in favor. The tenor of these against-arguments seems to be that carbohydrates are somehow essential to normal child development, but from what I understand, unlike proteins and fats, there are no "essential' carbohydrates. A lot of these websites also talk about other nutrients associated with carbs, but none of these nutrients seem to be unique to carbs themselves.

Of the 40 or 50 nutrition and diet books I've read, haven't seen or read too many specific studies on low-carb diets for kids, except that it's one alternative for overweight and obese kids. I'm not a parent myself, but my wife and I discuss how to think about children's nutrition as we do some family planning. So I was wondering your thoughts, for and against?

If low-carb is advisable when a kid is overweight or obese, why couldn't such an approach be adapted to prevent a child from becoming overweight or obese in the first place?

In full disclosure, I'm obviously biased toward a low-carb approach. I've done pretty well with a low-carb diet (-120 lbs & -30% body fat in 12 months so far) and it's been life-changing to the say the least.
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  • ChrisWag
    ChrisWag Posts: 169
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    I too live low carb and to a degree I have my son eat this way. I just try to limit the "bad carbs" that I feed him. He is very aware of healthy food. Raising him healthy is what is most important.
  • SergeantSunshine_reused
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    Kids do not need their macros monitored. As stated earlier today they need a balanced diet filled with love.
  • lor007
    lor007 Posts: 884 Member
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    Maybe you should consult a doctor or nutritionist about your imaginary child's diet.
  • MrsCon40
    MrsCon40 Posts: 2,351 Member
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    Children should be raised to eat a variety of healthy, whole foods. It's about creating a positive relationship with food. Raising them to think carbs should be limited (because they are "bad") is not a good foundation.

    There is a reason why you can't find sources to support this.
  • cmiles23
    cmiles23 Posts: 234 Member
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    Maybe you should consult a doctor or nutritionist about your imaginary child's diet.

    YES!!!! maybe you should wait until after you actually have children, provide them with healthy foods but counting their macros is ridiculous unless they already have a weight problem!
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    Please don't. Children are still developing. Their brains are still forming synapses, making connections, processing info. I don't have time to dig up info on this, but I'm pretty sure that a low-carb diet would be detrimental to children trying to learn. It's going to hinder their ability to focus.

    An obese child has fat reserves that can be used to provide the glucose needed by the brain. A healthy-weight child does not have those reserves.

    Now... a diet low in refined carbs would probably be fine, beneficial even. Just don't cut them all out.

    Brains love glucose. They will function most optimally when there's a nice supply of it.
  • auctoritas
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    Check out paleo for kids, rather than low carb. There are several blogs about it.

    Edit: here's an interesting one: http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/05/paleo-baby.html
  • mltdown
    mltdown Posts: 311 Member
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    People should be a little nicer about this. With that said, I raise my children to eat exactly what I do, and I eat low carb. They are 2 and 3, they eat low carb but I never say food is bad in any way. We don't talk about weight, I don't tell them to eat their vegetables, they just do because they don't know anything else. Yes, my children are at a normal weight I am not depriving them of any nutrition. Since I count what I eat I can kind of monitor their intake more or less. If more people ate clean with their children and didn't act like it was a chore to eat vegetables and fish maybe less children would be obese.
  • Elisirmon
    Elisirmon Posts: 273 Member
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    Planning for the future is always good but the best thing for children is to eat healthy low processed foods and be encourage to play outside which will benefit your child and you. Spend time together besides going out to eat! I have four kids and they are all very active and very slim kids but I try to raise them how I was raised with home cooked meals and lots of veggies and fruits. Then we spend time outside everyday playing or hiking or doing yard work TOGETHER.
  • Gigi_licious
    Gigi_licious Posts: 1,185 Member
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    Have you & your wife consideredteaching your child that everything is ok in moderation so they don't get all rebellious and binge on the "not allowed" foods behind your back leading to a possible E.D.?
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
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    I am unable to give an honest and informative response to this thread because I have to follow Terms of Service on this site and forum.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    Here... I took a few minutes to do some digging even though I really should be doing other things.

    Metabolism. 2009 Sep;58(9):1356-65. Epub 2009 Jun 18.
    Glucose metabolism in children: influence of age, fasting, and infectious diseases.
    Zijlmans WC, van Kempen AA, Serlie MJ, Sauerwein HP.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19501855

    And because I'm guessing you can't get the whole article, I'll quote from it.
    Glucose is one of the major fuels to meet the energy requirements of the human body. In the healthy individual, the amount of glucose produced is regulated to the need of the body and more in particular to the need of its major user, the brain. Although the brain can also use lactate, ketone bodies, and certain amino acids, its primary fuel is glucose [1]. During fasting, more than 90% of its energy is provided by glucose, making the brain highly vulnerable to alterations in the plasma glucose level [2]. The child's developing brain is more susceptible to hypoglycemia compared with the adult brain [3], [4], [5], [6] and [7]. Recurrent hypoglycemia may result in permanent neurologic damage [4], [5] and [6]. It is therefore imperative to prevent the occurrence of hypoglycemia in children.
  • CharlieLopez2005
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    Please don't. Children are still developing. Their brains are still forming synapses, making connections, processing info. I don't have time to dig up info on this, but I'm pretty sure that a low-carb diet would be detrimental to children trying to learn. It's going to hinder their ability to focus.

    An obese child has fat reserves that can be used to provide the glucose needed by the brain. A healthy-weight child does not have those reserves.

    Now... a diet low in refined carbs would probably be fine, beneficial even. Just don't cut them all out.

    Brains love glucose. They will function most optimally when there's a nice supply of it.

    Clinical studies concluding that low-carb "would be detrimental to children trying to learn" or "hinder their ability to focus" would definitely be something I'd be interested in reading.
  • gp79
    gp79 Posts: 1,799 Member
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    I let my kids tell me when they've had enough. Seems to work just fine.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    Clinical studies concluding that low-carb "would be detrimental to children trying to learn" or "hinder their ability to focus" would definitely be something I'd be interested in reading.

    You know what? I can't find any specifically about that, so my guesses could be wrong. BUT I also can't find any studies demonstrating it's okay. The only studies I found that showed a low-carb diet was beneficial in children were studies on childhood obesity, childhood diabetes, with children who are epileptic, or with children who have a GLUT1 (Glucose 1) transporter defect.

    Do you want to chance it? If you don't know that it's okay, why would you risk it? Especially when it's WELL ESTABLISHED that glucose is the optimal fuel for neurons.

    Edited to add: I study Alzheimer's disease in the adult brain. I don't know a ton about the child's brain. So my guesses are 'educated guesses' but I they are still guesses. This is not my area of expertise.
  • killerqueen17
    killerqueen17 Posts: 536 Member
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    Please don't. Children are still developing. Their brains are still forming synapses, making connections, processing info. I don't have time to dig up info on this, but I'm pretty sure that a low-carb diet would be detrimental to children trying to learn. It's going to hinder their ability to focus.

    An obese child has fat reserves that can be used to provide the glucose needed by the brain. A healthy-weight child does not have those reserves.

    Now... a diet low in refined carbs would probably be fine, beneficial even. Just don't cut them all out.

    Brains love glucose. They will function most optimally when there's a nice supply of it.

    Clinical studies concluding that low-carb "would be detrimental to children trying to learn" or "hinder their ability to focus" would definitely be something I'd be interested in reading.

    This is not specifically about children, but it's possible that findings may be generalizable to populations other than adult women (the study participants):
    To examine how a low-carbohydrate diet affects cognitive performance, women participated in one of two weight-loss diet regimens. Participants self-selected a low-carbohydrate (n = 9) or a reduced-calorie balanced diet similar to that recommended by the American Dietetic Association (ADA diet) (n = 10). Seventy-two hours before beginning their diets and then 48 h, 1, 2, and 3 weeks after starting, participants completed a battery of cognitive tasks assessing visuospatial memory, vigilance attention, memory span, a food-related paired-associates a food Stroop, and the Profile of Moods Scale (POMS) to assess subjective mood. Results showed that during complete withdrawal of dietary carbohydrate, low-carbohydrate dieters performed worse on memory-based tasks than ADA dieters. These impairments were ameliorated after reintroduction of carbohydrates. Low-carbohydrate dieters reported less confusion (POMS) and responded faster during an attention vigilance task (CPT) than ADA dieters. Hunger ratings did not differ between the two diet conditions. The present data show memory impairments during low-carbohydrate diets at a point when available glycogen stores would be at their lowest. A commonly held explanation based on preoccupation with food would not account for these findings. The results also suggest better vigilance attention and reduced self-reported confusion while on the low-carbohydrate diet, although not tied to a specific time point during the diet. Taken together the results suggest that weight-loss diet regimens differentially impact cognitive behavior.

    Low-carbohydrate weight-loss diets. Effects on cognition and mood

    Kristen E. D’Ancia, b, Kara L. Wattsa, Robin B. Kanareka, Holly A. Taylora,
    a Department of Psychology, Tufts University, Medford, MA 02148, United States
    b Jean Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging, United States
    Received 8 January 2008; revised 31 July 2008; Accepted 25 August 2008. Available online 29 August 2008.
  • CharlieLopez2005
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    Clinical studies concluding that low-carb "would be detrimental to children trying to learn" or "hinder their ability to focus" would definitely be something I'd be interested in reading.

    You know what? I can't find any specifically about that, so my guesses could be wrong. BUT I also can't find any studies demonstrating it's okay. The only studies I found that showed a low-carb diet was beneficial in children were studies on childhood obesity, childhood diabetes, with children who are epileptic, or with children who have a GLUT1 (Glucose 1) transporter defect.

    Do you want to chance it? If you don't know that it's okay, why would you risk it? Especially when it's WELL ESTABLISHED that glucose is the optimal fuel for neurons.

    Edited to add: I study Alzheimer's disease in the adult brain. I don't know a ton about the child's brain. So my guesses are 'educated guesses' but I they are still guesses. This is not my area of expertise.

    There was an article by Emily Deans, MD, from Psychology Today that I bookmarked awhile ago that seemed to suggest that the brain and body might actually function better on ketones (i.e. in the absence or restriction of carbs) instead of glucose: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201104/your-brain-ketones
    ... Doesn't sound to me like glucose really is the preferred fuel for the brain after all....Ketosis for the body means fat-burning (hip hip hooray!). For the brain, it means a lower seizure risk and a better environment for neuronal recovery and repair.
  • mltdown
    mltdown Posts: 311 Member
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    Clinical studies concluding that low-carb "would be detrimental to children trying to learn" or "hinder their ability to focus" would definitely be something I'd be interested in reading.

    You know what? I can't find any specifically about that, so my guesses could be wrong. BUT I also can't find any studies demonstrating it's okay. The only studies I found that showed a low-carb diet was beneficial in children were studies on childhood obesity, childhood diabetes, with children who are epileptic, or with children who have a GLUT1 (Glucose 1) transporter defect.

    Do you want to chance it? If you don't know that it's okay, why would you risk it? Especially when it's WELL ESTABLISHED that glucose is the optimal fuel for neurons.

    Edited to add: I study Alzheimer's disease in the adult brain. I don't know a ton about the child's brain. So my guesses are 'educated guesses' but I they are still guesses. This is not my area of expertise.

    There was an article by Emily Deans, MD, from Psychology Today that I bookmarked awhile ago that seemed to suggest that the brain and body might actually function better on ketones (i.e. in the absence or restriction of carbs) instead of glucose: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201104/your-brain-ketones
    ... Doesn't sound to me like glucose really is the preferred fuel for the brain after all....Ketosis for the body means fat-burning (hip hip hooray!). For the brain, it means a lower seizure risk and a better environment for neuronal recovery and repair.

    Thats because glucose and sodium are have short term effects for the brain where as low carb eating is long term and has many health benefits and I believe from all my research that it benefits children.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
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    I know there are many paleo/primal people in the blogosphere whose kids eat paleo/primal. I don't think they restrict macronutrients, per se (paleo eating isn't necessarily low carb), but they don't feed them grains and legumes, so I'm guessing the kids end up consuming fewer carbohydrates than a kid eating the Standard American Diet (or even the recommendations of the food pyramid). Everyone reports vibrant, strong, healthy kids. And some parents have seen drastic behavioral changes (for the better).

    Some blogs that come to mind are: Growing Up Paleo, Everyday Paleo, and The Primal Parent. The big behavioral changes I was talking about were referenced by this family: http://freetheanimal.com/2011/09/real-results-video-interview-paleo-parents-over-200-pounds-lost-part-1.html
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
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    Edited to add: I study Alzheimer's disease in the adult brain. I don't know a ton about the child's brain. So my guesses are 'educated guesses' but I they are still guesses. This is not my area of expertise.
    Unrelated, but I am curious because both my grandmothers diet of Alzheimer's. Have you looked into the effects of ketone bodies on the brain of those suffering from the disease?