Calories Eaten vs. Calories Earned Through Exercise
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Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
That wouldn't make you go over, if your MFP goal is 1500 and you burn 2000 from exercise you should eat 3500 (1500+2000) in order to keep your caloric deficit to lose your goal amount of weight.
If you chose to lose 1 lb/week and MFP gave you 1500 calories that means with no exercise you can eat 1500 and lose 1 lb/week, if you exercise you need to eat those back in order to lose 1 lb. if you are given the 1500 your maintenance is 2000, if you burn 600 calories your maintenace on that day is now 2600 (2000+600) as you burn 2000 with no exercise and 2600 with exercise, so to keep your deficit at 500, you need to eat 2100 on the day you burn 600 (1500+600 = 2100 which is the same as 2600-500).
I hope this helps clarify things for you.0 -
Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
Because MFP calculated that 1500 as the number of calories you need hit the WEIGHT LOSS GOAL YOU SET FOR YOURSELF!!! That's why. That 1500 is based on your normal activity level. Working out is extra calories burned BEYOND your normal activity that YOU NEED to replenish in order to lose weight and still be HEALTHY. Yes, you can net 500cal per day and lose a lot of weight. But it's not going to be healthy, you'll lose most of your muscle mass and quite possibly be worse off than when you started.
Losing weight is about a lot more than just what the scale says.0 -
Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
Here is how it works, in a simplified manner:
You tell MFP: I want to lose 1lb per week.
MFP says: Okay, you need to eat X calories per day in order to lose 1lb/week, without exercise.
You do what MFP says, but then you decide to exercise and you burn an additional 400 calories. MFP then says "Hey, I told you to eat X per day to lose 1lb/week without exercise. You exercised, now you're going to lose it too fast and that's not ideal. Now I want you to eat X+400".
Does this make sense?0 -
Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
If you your goal is 1500 and you burn 2000, then you would need to eat 3500. This would not put your over your calorie goal. Your calorie goal has a built in deficit based on how many calories your body burns over the course of a normal day without exercise. If you work out, your body is burning more than normal so you need to eat more than normal to maintain the same deficit.
Hope that helps you understand :flowerforyou:0 -
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Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
That wouldn't make you go over, if your MFP goal is 1500 and you burn 2000 from exercise you should eat 3500 (1500+2000) in order to keep your caloric deficit to lose your goal amount of weight.
If you chose to lose 1 lb/week and MFP gave you 1500 calories that means with no exercise you can eat 1500 and lose 1 lb/week, if you exercise you need to eat those back in order to lose 1 lb. if you are given the 1500 your maintenance is 2000, if you burn 600 calories your maintenace on that day is now 2600 (2000+600) as you burn 2000 with no exercise and 2600 with exercise, so to keep your deficit at 500, you need to eat 2100 on the day you burn 600 (1500+600 = 2100 which is the same as 2600-500).
I hope this helps clarify things for you.
Thank you yes it does. Thats all I was looking for was a clarification on what I was doing wrong.0 -
Here is how it works, in a simplified manner:
You tell MFP: I want to lose 1lb per week.
MFP says: Okay, you need to eat X calories per day in order to lose 1lb/week, without exercise.
You do what MFP says, but then you decide to exercise and you burn an additional 400 calories. MFP then says "Hey, I told you to eat X per day to lose 1lb/week without exercise. You exercised, now you're going to lose it too fast and that's not ideal. Now I want you to eat X+400".
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People disagreeing with you is not negativity, or bashing or hate or any of that crap. You were wrong and people told you that you were. This is the internet. If you don't want anyone to disagree with you ever, then you're not going to like it here.
Thats not what I'm saying either. If i'm wrong please tell me i'm wrong, but you don't have to do it in such a hateful way especially when this site is to help motivate people. And yes the way people were saying it is negativity, bashing and hate and all that crap. I'm not getting an attitude I'm simply asking for guidance in a support positive way. What you just said is discouraging and negative.0 -
I think that's the best/simplest way I've seen it explained. I might just steal it for future net calories posters
Here is how it works, in a simplified manner:
You tell MFP: I want to lose 1lb per week.
MFP says: Okay, you need to eat X calories per day in order to lose 1lb/week, without exercise.
You do what MFP says, but then you decide to exercise and you burn an additional 400 calories. MFP then says "Hey, I told you to eat X per day to lose 1lb/week without exercise. You exercised, now you're going to lose it too fast and that's not ideal. Now I want you to eat X+400".
Does this make sense?
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I think that explains it perfectly. I was actually pretty confused myself. Now I know
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People disagreeing with you is not negativity, or bashing or hate or any of that crap. You were wrong and people told you that you were. This is the internet. If you don't want anyone to disagree with you ever, then you're not going to like it here.
Thats not what I'm saying either. If i'm wrong please tell me i'm wrong, but you don't have to do it in such a hateful way especially when this site is to help motivate people. And yes the way people were saying it is negativity, bashing and hate and all that crap. I'm not getting an attitude I'm simply asking for guidance in a support positive way. What you just said is discouraging and negative.
LOL, ok hun. :flowerforyou:0 -
Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
Here is how it works, in a simplified manner:
You tell MFP: I want to lose 1lb per week.
Ok so let me ask. I have a goal of 1500 calories each day. i've already exercised 783 calories for the day so i need to eat 2283 calories for today and i'll still lose weight?
MFP says: Okay, you need to eat X calories per day in order to lose 1lb/week, without exercise.
You do what MFP says, but then you decide to exercise and you burn an additional 400 calories. MFP then says "Hey, I told you to eat X per day to lose 1lb/week without exercise. You exercised, now you're going to lose it too fast and that's not ideal. Now I want you to eat X+400".
Does this make sense?0 -
Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
The point of working out is to be healthy and fit, and occasionally because we want to eat more (or have eaten more and need to balance things out).
Let me give you an example, using some of my own numbers. MFP calculated my BMR (the number of calories my body expends just keeping me alive, breathing, etc) as 1309. In my normal everyday life (outside of exercise) I am entered as lightly active in my daily life outside of formal exercise. MFP tells me I would need 1770 calories to MAINTAIN my current weight. When I tell MPF that I want to lose half a pound a week, it subtracts 250 calories from my maintenance goal and gives me a NET goal of 1520.
Today I ran 6 miles (600 calories) and went to a 90 minute yoga class (220 calories). If I didn't eat those calories back, my NET would be 1386-600-220 = 700. That's way too low and unhealthy (and I'd feel miserable). So MPF adds those calories back into my daily goal. My total calorie burn for the day was 1770 (to maintain my weight) + 820 (exercise) = 2590. So when MPF tells me to eat 1520 (my original target) + 820 (exercise) = 2340, I am STILL 250 calories below what it would take to maintain my current weight TODAY and I will still average half a pound a week of weight loss.If i'm wrong please tell me i'm wrong
I told you that you didn't understand how the site worked and that your statement was wrong... I'm not sure how you get "hate, negativity and bashing" out of that.0 -
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Ok so let me ask. I have a goal of 1500 calories each day. i've already exercised 783 calories for the day so i need to eat 2283 calories for today and i'll still lose weight?0 -
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Ok so let me ask. I have a goal of 1500 calories each day. i've already exercised 783 calories for the day so i need to eat 2283 calories for today and i'll still lose weight?
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You're welcome
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Ok so let me ask. I have a goal of 1500 calories each day. i've already exercised 783 calories for the day so i need to eat 2283 calories for today and i'll still lose weight?
Thank you! It can be difficult to understand, but it really works and makes sense when put into practice. 0 -
Well you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was not trying to give wrong information. I was trying to say that if you have a goal of 1500 calorie intake and you workout 2000 and eat those calories back then what is the point of working out. I guess that is wrong. And wouldn't that make you go over your calorie limit? That is what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry I miss portrayed my question. I'm just looking for help not attitude!
The point of working out is to be healthy and fit, and occasionally because we want to eat more (or have eaten more and need to balance things out).
Let me give you an example, using some of my own numbers. MFP calculated my BMR (the number of calories my body expends just keeping me alive, breathing, etc) as 1309. In my normal everyday life (outside of exercise) I am entered as lightly active in my daily life outside of formal exercise. MFP tells me I would need 1770 calories to MAINTAIN my current weight. When I tell MPF that I want to lose half a pound a week, it subtracts 250 calories from my maintenance goal and gives me a NET goal of 1520.
Today I ran 6 miles (600 calories) and went to a 90 minute yoga class (220 calories). If I didn't eat those calories back, my NET would be 1386-600-220 = 700. That's way too low and unhealthy (and I'd feel miserable). So MPF adds those calories back into my daily goal. My total calorie burn for the day was 1770 (to maintain my weight) + 820 (exercise) = 2590. So when MPF tells me to eat 1520 (my original target) + 820 (exercise) = 2340, I am STILL 250 calories below what it would take to maintain my current weight TODAY and I will still average half a pound a week of weight loss.If i'm wrong please tell me i'm wrong
I told you that you didn't understand how the site worked and that your statement was wrong... I'm not sure how you get "hate, negativity and bashing" out of that.
Because of the way you said it. Why couldn't all this be explained in the first part?? No i had to defend myself and feel like I was stupid for trying to get myself healthier. Thats where I get it from. if i was just to say "You are wrong, you don't get it." How would you feel? Just saying. Its discouraging when you don't know someones story and they think they are doing it right and then they are told they are wrong and not felt support0 -
Why couldn't all this be explained in the first part??
Because some of us do occasionally get tired of explaining, exhaustively, over and over, why people are wrong when they give advice to the effect of "if you eat back your exercise calories you'll be maintaining, not losing." Also, I never only said "You're wrong, you don't get it." In every single response I explained in some form that your goal deficit is already built into your daily net calorie goal. You can get defensive, or you can learn how the site works from people (not just me, others have responded here too) who understand it.0 -
Aside from the negative comments... this thread was actually very helpful. I had noticed that on the days I "cheated" and ate my workout calories I did lose more weight. I just didn't understand how MFP was designed, apparently. I too felt that if I ate my workout calories then I was negating all that effort I had put in. Now that I have a better understanding I can use the site/app better. When I first downloaded the app I didn't realize that there was an entire website and online community to go along with it. Thanks for the help!0
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Why couldn't all this be explained in the first part??
Because some of us do occasionally get tired of explaining, exhaustively, over and over, why people are wrong when they give advice to the effect of "if you eat back your exercise calories you'll be maintaining, not losing." Also, I never only said "You're wrong, you don't get it." In every single response I explained in some form that your goal deficit is already built into your daily net calorie goal. You can get defensive, or you can learn how the site works from people (not just me, others have responded here too) who understand it.
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day0 -
Aside from the negative comments... this thread was actually very helpful. I had noticed that on the days I "cheated" and ate my workout calories I did lose more weight. I just didn't understand how MFP was designed, apparently. I too felt that if I ate my workout calories then I was negating all that effort I had put in. Now that I have a better understanding I can use the site/app better. When I first downloaded the app I didn't realize that there was an entire website and online community to go along with it. Thanks for the help!
I'm glad you could learn from my expense.0 -
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help.
We have to. Otherwise the incorrect information just perpetuates. I don't even bother telling people to use the search function.
You enjoy your day too. I'm currently enjoying my exercise calories :drinker:0 -
Why couldn't all this be explained in the first part??
Because some of us do occasionally get tired of explaining, exhaustively, over and over, why people are wrong when they give advice to the effect of "if you eat back your exercise calories you'll be maintaining, not losing." Also, I never only said "You're wrong, you don't get it." In every single response I explained in some form that your goal deficit is already built into your daily net calorie goal. You can get defensive, or you can learn how the site works from people (not just me, others have responded here too) who understand it.
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day
You need to just ignore some people on these boards. I don't know why some people get pleasure from posting responses in a sarcastic manner meant to make others feel small, but there is no shortage of them on these boards. You are correct, if you are so tired of answering a question that you become unable to answer it kindly, then why respond? I wish I knew the answer to that one too.0 -
You are correct, if you are so tired of answering a question that you become unable to answer it kindly, then why respond? I wish I knew the answer to that one too.
As I said, because if people don't correct the wrong information then the wrong information just perpetuates and confuses even more people. I'm not sure how I was unkind. Calling someone names or just saying "wrong" with no other explanation is how I would define unkind. Would "You don't understand how the site works, but *hugs* anyways" be more appropriate in the future? :-)0 -
Why couldn't all this be explained in the first part??
Because some of us do occasionally get tired of explaining, exhaustively, over and over, why people are wrong when they give advice to the effect of "if you eat back your exercise calories you'll be maintaining, not losing." Also, I never only said "You're wrong, you don't get it." In every single response I explained in some form that your goal deficit is already built into your daily net calorie goal. You can get defensive, or you can learn how the site works from people (not just me, others have responded here too) who understand it.
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day
You need to just ignore some people on these boards. I don't know why some people get pleasure from posting responses in a sarcastic manner meant to make others feel small, but there is no shortage of them on these boards. You are correct, if you are so tired of answering a question that you become unable to answer it kindly, then why respond? I wish I knew the answer to that one too.
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That would be just as cool as a feature I can add to my car so that it doesn't burn gas when I drive it; only while it sits in the driveway.
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Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day
Ditch the drama and get off the cross. This topic is discussed in so many ways per week that a simple use of the search function could have helped you avoid any of this.0 -
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day
Ditch the drama and get off the cross. This topic is discussed in so many ways per week that a simple use of the search function could have helped you avoid any of this.
That may be true, but so could civil replies.0 -
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day
Ditch the drama and get off the cross. This topic is discussed in so many ways per week that a simple use of the search function could have helped you avoid any of this.
That may be true, but so could civil replies.
I don't necessarily disagree. Would you care to provide a rhetorical analysis of the civility of the replies received in the first few pages?0 -
Getting tired of explaining?? Then don't try to help. First time commenting and i get ripped apart?? I'm done talking about it won't reply no more. But i'm not going to sit here and let people bring me down because they are perfect and know all and are tired of explaining. How rude was that. Sorry i asked for help Please enjoy your day
Ditch the drama and get off the cross. This topic is discussed in so many ways per week that a simple use of the search function could have helped you avoid any of this.
Sorry I don't believe in crosses. But people being kind in the first place could of helped all of this be avoided. You are just one of them apparently0
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