Is what he said correct about Carbs?
wish21
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Me and one my friend were talkin about how she recently(over the summer) lost 30 lbs W/O EXERCISING! When she told me that my mouth dropped. Then this guy who put on a great deal of muscle in the past 1-2 years told me that if you cut out all the carbs in your diet you'd loose a great amount of weight because all the fat on your body is carbs. I'm not very bright in the food and nutrition departmment so was he right? If I stop eating things like white rice, bread, pasta, etc I loose a bunch of weight.:huh:
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The fat on your body is fat. Any excess calories, whether they are consumed as fat, protein, or carbs, are stored as fat ultimately. Some people personally do better on lower carb diets but it's not one-size fits all. It certainly isn't sustainable in the long run for many people.
You can lose weight without exercising. Losing weight is about 90% diet and 10% exercise.0 -
Yes and no. Yes, you would lose a lot of weight. No, it's not possible to completely cut out carbs. If you're talking processed carbs (like the white rice, bread, pasta, etc. that you mentioned) then you will obviously lose weight faster. The problem with this is it's unrealistic to maintain something like this. I've definitely cut down on my carbs and have switched to whole grains, brown rice, and more complex carbs, but it's all about finding a balance that works for you.
As for the exercising, you may be able to lose the weight, but that doesn't mean you would be healthy or fit. There is such a thing as 'skinny fat.'0 -
For me, not eating carbs is a weight loss death sentence. I get very sluggish and am so tired I can barely move. I also tend to gain weight - probably because I'm so tired and sluggish. All I want to do is sleep.
My body loves carbs and isn't sensitive to them AT ALL. I know there are people out there whose bodies are sensitive to carbs and they do well on low carb eating. It really depends on you and your body.0 -
Yes and no. Yes, you would lose a lot of weight. No, it's not possible to completely cut out carbs. If you're talking processed carbs (like the white rice, bread, pasta, etc. that you mentioned) then you will obviously lose weight faster. The problem with this is it's unrealistic to maintain something like this. I've definitely cut down on my carbs and have switch to whole grains, brown rice, and more complex carbs, but it's all about finding a balance that works for you.
why would you lose weight faster if you cut out processed carbs?
It boils down to calories in vs calories out. When you cut carbs you deplete glycogen resulting in a loss of a lot of water weight0 -
There is more to weight loss than pounds. It should involve learning to eat healthy, Carbs, protein and fats are all necessary for a healthy body. Be careful with any diet that does not promote healthy eating.0
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sounds like the atkins diet...
i think its hard because you're not allowed to eat ANY carbs! (youre not allowed to eat anything sweet, you might get cravings) it only works if you eat proteins and fats ONLY. this is really unhealthy. you can do it to lose the last 5 pounds. but i wouldnt do it for a long time. its not good for your body.0 -
Yes and no. Yes, you would lose a lot of weight. No, it's not possible to completely cut out carbs. If you're talking processed carbs (like the white rice, bread, pasta, etc. that you mentioned) then you will obviously lose weight faster. The problem with this is it's unrealistic to maintain something like this. I've definitely cut down on my carbs and have switch to whole grains, brown rice, and more complex carbs, but it's all about finding a balance that works for you.
why would you lose weight faster if you cut out processed carbs?
It boils down to calories in vs calories out. When you cut carbs you deplete glycogen resulting in a loss of a lot of water weight
It is calories in vs calories out, but some people don't feel full after eating procesed carbs in the same way that they would if they ate a more protein-heavy meal. So if that ultimately led to more eating later on in the day, that could slow their weight loss.0 -
Well it depends. Like if you eat alot of bread,rice,pasta then just reduce it you will see an effect. but lets say your not a eater on bread,rice , and pasta then your not going to lose weight as fast as someone who does.0
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First, the way you eat must be able to be maintained the rest of your life if you want to keep the weight off. You can't simply lose a bunch of weight and then go right back to the way you were eating before or the weight comes right back on! So can you give up white rice, bread, and all things white for the rest of your life? Carbohydrates are used more readily for energy production than fats and proteins. Carbohyrdates comprise the body's main source of raw material for energy. If you are doing a lot of cadio activity and give up carbohydrates you are not going to be able to perform at a maxiumum level because your body needs those carbs for energy! A lot of people trying to accomplsh muscle hypertrophy will cut carbohydrates, but only for the period of time of their training. If you dont' want to eat "white" then look for multi-grain and wheat, but sometimes the carbs are just as high!0
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The body needs complex carbs to function. Cutting out carbs and living on protein and fat is the Atkins diet in a nutshell. The weight comes off quickly, but the diet is difficult to maintain and once the individual begins to eat carbs again they usually go for the simple, starchy types like pastas and breads that don't offer as much nutritional value as say vegetables. The human body needs carbs, just as it needs protein and even fat along with the essential vitamins and minerals we require as well. People need to stop fearing carbs and just start eating the proper type. There is no easy way to lose weight and keep it off other than healthy eating and exercising.0
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Yes and no. Yes, you would lose a lot of weight. No, it's not possible to completely cut out carbs. If you're talking processed carbs (like the white rice, bread, pasta, etc. that you mentioned) then you will obviously lose weight faster. The problem with this is it's unrealistic to maintain something like this. I've definitely cut down on my carbs and have switch to whole grains, brown rice, and more complex carbs, but it's all about finding a balance that works for you.
why would you lose weight faster if you cut out processed carbs?
It boils down to calories in vs calories out. When you cut carbs you deplete glycogen resulting in a loss of a lot of water weight
It is calories in vs calories out, but some people don't feel full after eating procesed carbs in the same way that they would if they ate a more protein-heavy meal. So if that ultimately led to more eating later on in the day, that could slow their weight loss.
Well that is completely on the individual. If you are hitting your calorie/macro goal for the day it makes no difference if you ate white rice or brown rice0 -
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To all of you saying your body need carbs: Carbs are not absolutely essential.
Im all for eating carbs and i certainly do :] Just sayin tho0 -
man making me reply by my phone
1. carbs =/= fat
2. process of DNL is rare
3. no metabolic advantage to keto diets
4. carbs are not essential0 -
Thanks guys! I wasn't plannin on going on a No Carbs diet lol.0
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Read about the Twinkie diet.
It's basically about totally calories consumed vs calories expended on whether you lose or gain weight.0 -
Fat and carbs are not at all the same (other than they are both energy sources). They are two totally different molecules and each type has their own distinct biochemical pathways. Some people can loose weight very successfully by reducing carbohydrate intake. But, it is more important to learn a healthful, sustainable diet than to loose weight very quickly. Good luck!0
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I do a low carb diet.
I don't think its for everyone but I find it works well for me.
Its not about eating NO carbs its about eating LOW carbs.
Basically I keep my net carbs under 20 grams a day. Most people do what is called an induction phase where they stay under 20 grams of carbs a day for 2 weeks. After I think the carbs are raised little by little every week until the right amount of carbs are found that can be eaten while weight loss continues.
The reason that I do low carb is because I'm borderline Type 2 diabetic with insulin resistance. A low carb diet has been proven to be beneficial to folks like me in not only losing weight but also maintaining level blood sugars.
People do it for all different reasons. For me I'm working on changing my focus from this being a diet to a new way of life. I've lost 22lbs so far and I feel better than I have in a long time.0 -
Yes and no. Yes, you would lose a lot of weight. No, it's not possible to completely cut out carbs. If you're talking processed carbs (like the white rice, bread, pasta, etc. that you mentioned) then you will obviously lose weight faster. The problem with this is it's unrealistic to maintain something like this. I've definitely cut down on my carbs and have switch to whole grains, brown rice, and more complex carbs, but it's all about finding a balance that works for you.
why would you lose weight faster if you cut out processed carbs?
It boils down to calories in vs calories out. When you cut carbs you deplete glycogen resulting in a loss of a lot of water weight
It is calories in vs calories out, but some people don't feel full after eating procesed carbs in the same way that they would if they ate a more protein-heavy meal. So if that ultimately led to more eating later on in the day, that could slow their weight loss.
You've gone down "this road" before, and I told you before that this isn't because of refined or processed carbs...this is a LACK OF SELF CONTROL ON THE PERSON.
What is it going to take for you to understand?0 -
^^ that's basically what I said. From a nutritional stand point it doesn't matter. Lack of will power and self control of an individual might play a part, but certainly doesn't fit into this0
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Me and one my friend were talkin about how she recently(over the summer) lost 30 lbs W/O EXERCISING! When she told me that my mouth dropped. Then this guy who put on a great deal of muscle in the past 1-2 years told me that if you cut out all the carbs in your diet you'd loose a great amount of weight because all the fat on your body is carbs. I'm not very bright in the food and nutrition departmment so was he right? If I stop eating things like white rice, bread, pasta, etc I loose a bunch of weight.:huh:
If i'm eating the "standard american diet" and "everything in moderation" and counting calories I'm hungry and I have to burn myself out doing exercises to lose weight.
If i'm eating foods that do not contain bread, pasta, sugar etc...I eat whatever I want (range from 800-2000ish calories a day, but who's counting?) and the weight falls off and the only exercising I do is walking to and from work everyday. Other than that, i'm lazy. True story.
I much prefer this way...I'm never hungry and I'm much healthier and I look amazing.
It works for me. Doesn't work for "them" but it might work for you.0 -
Yes and no. Yes, you would lose a lot of weight. No, it's not possible to completely cut out carbs. If you're talking processed carbs (like the white rice, bread, pasta, etc. that you mentioned) then you will obviously lose weight faster. The problem with this is it's unrealistic to maintain something like this. I've definitely cut down on my carbs and have switch to whole grains, brown rice, and more complex carbs, but it's all about finding a balance that works for you.
why would you lose weight faster if you cut out processed carbs?
It boils down to calories in vs calories out. When you cut carbs you deplete glycogen resulting in a loss of a lot of water weight
It is calories in vs calories out, but some people don't feel full after eating procesed carbs in the same way that they would if they ate a more protein-heavy meal. So if that ultimately led to more eating later on in the day, that could slow their weight loss.
You've gone down "this road" before, and I told you before that this isn't because of refined or processed carbs...this is a LACK OF SELF CONTROL ON THE PERSON.
What is it going to take for you to understand?
Woah, what? Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else? I personally LOVE refined carbs... And I'm pretty sure I have never ever said "in order to lose weight you must cut out X food."
I don't disagree that it falls on the individual to stay within their calorie goals. But if eating fewer refined carbs is what it takes to do that, then it works for them and I'm all for doing what works for you.0 -
I've tried the low carb thing and lost a lot of weight but for me it wasn't sustainable. I love pastas, breads, etc so completely cutting them out forever was not sustainable. Some of the studies I have read show that low carb diets cause you to loose weight initially quicker than other diets but then it tends to plateau and you end up not loosing as much as the old fashioned way. The best diet always seems to be the old fashioned one of cutting calories and exercise. When I started my weight loss journey this time I took some time and thought about what can I do for the rest of my life and I really couldn't see me giving up the things I love. So now I do the healthy eating thing instead of dieting. I have vegetable, meat, bread, pasta, the occasional cookie or cake and works. Also, not a big fan of vegetables but I found if I eat them first when I am hungry they taste a lot better, but I could never bee a vegetarian. Love my meats and I love to grill.
Every person is different; Ask yourself these three questions,
1. Does it work for you?
2. Is it fairly healthy?
3. Can you easily sustain it the rest of your life?0 -
I have lost all my weight by cutting, what I call bad carbs. White bread, pasta, rice, candy, cake, cookies, chips, pretzels ( Junk food)
I eat Whole Grain Low Carb Bread, Tortillas, Pitas, Whole Wheat Pasta, Brown Rice, Sweet Potatoes, Beans.
It's not about NO CARB FOR ME, it's about smart carbs. I know I could never go no carb forever so I found healthy substitutes for the foods I love. I even have a piece of cake for a birthday or share a dessert if I go out to dinner if I want. I have found weight loss if mostly about portion control. I bought a food scale when I started and it was the best thing I have ever done for myself. You will be really surprised at what a true portion size looks like.
Oh and I don't exercise either. I knew I would not do that forever so I had to find another way. Postion control and healthy substitutions did it for me.0 -
If your journey starts when you are morbidly obese or obese and you are taking the long journey toward a normal healthy weight, I encourage you to work with your dr. and research for you based on your health needs and goals, your habits, your behaviors.
MFP peeps have great ideas that have worked for them, but they do not have the knowledge of you specifically. You will come across a lot of facts and misinformation (not deliberate) when you listen to others. People sometimes see the very positive results of their lifestyle on their body and make assumptions about the underlying "facts".
I have lots of "facts" about the way I have approached nutritional balance including carbs in my diet, based on my travel from the beginnings of morbidly obese to overweight and happily share them. But my techniques and "facts" may not fit who you are and what you needs are so you would need to assess them and decide whether to try them.
That said, I will go out on a limb here based on everything any health professional or science teacher has ever taught me, carbs are not the same as fat.0 -
agthorn terrible advice...
juliebean...that was great advice...very wise0 -
fitness chickie...great advice..
and it is not a matter of calories in v calories out...that is just not right..
those who think that...try to eat 1200 cals a day of lard...and after a month look what you got on your hands....different foods react different to different people....WE ARE NOT ALL ALIKE
There are many many people who have lost unbelievable weight doing the low carb plan.....it works for some people...and some it doesnt......
the best advice is to eat a well rounded diet..including complex carbs...the fuel for our brains and our bodies..0 -
All substrates have their own distinct pathways, but reducing carbs doesn't magically make someone lose more weight. It's the satiety level achieved through eating more protein and fiberous veg that does that. Refined carbs definitely effect many peoples eating patterns, satiety levels that can effect hormonal changes or phychological dependancies that facilitate overeating. In that regard reducing refined carbs can help someone.Fat and carbs are not at all the same (other than they are both energy sources). They are two totally different molecules and each type has their own distinct biochemical pathways. Some people can loose weight very successfully by reducing carbohydrate intake. But, it is more important to learn a healthful, sustainable diet than to loose weight very quickly. Good luck!0 -
All substrates have their own distinct pathways, but reducing carbs doesn't magically make someone lose more weight. It's the satiety level achieved through eating more protein and fiberous veg that does that. Refined carbs definitely effect many peoples eating patterns, satiety levels that can effect hormonal changes or phychological dependancies that facilitate overeating. In that regard reducing refined carbs can help someone.
This is what I was trying to say earlier, but you said it much more clearly.0 -
agthorn terrible advice...
Specifically what part didn't you agree with?0
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