A Map of Every McDonald's in US
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Thank you. McDonald's is a great American success story, in my book. I never eat there (haven't in probably 10 years or more), but they found a product/service that people were willing to pay for, and they created a successful business model in which to distribute/provide it. They aren't doing anything illegal, and they employ hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. People need to stop blaming a restaurant for their own laziness and lack of self-control.
Even if it were true that sugar is like nicotine, McDonald's does not have a monopoly on sugar. Should we blame every sugar cane farmer in the world because some people can't keep their paws off the Twinkies?0 -
I no understand. Is sh|tty food not everywhere? Just look at how many Chipotle's are in existence.
*puffs out chest* Yeah, I said it: Chipotle is akin to the Tex-Mex you can get holding a tortilla under a dog with diarrhea.
*puts up fists*
But have you had Freebirds?
No. I'm sure as hell it can't be worse than Chipotle though.0 -
McDonald's has THE BEST PICKLES!!!!!!!!!
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You can't escape it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:0
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Should we blame every sugar cane farmer in the world because some people can't keep their paws off the Twinkies?0
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and they wonder why we have the highest obesity rate!
And apparently there are SO MANY people on this site that say it's GROSS and would never eat there, yet somehow they are overweight/obese. Go figure.
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WOW!0
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Fast Food Nation talks about how McDonald's makes major money on real estate. Here is a map For the UK and Ireland
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McDonald's is a corporation, supplying the people with what they want (demand). I don't see anything wrong with it. If you don't have the willpower to just keep on driving every time you pass one, then you're fat because you can't stop eating, not because ol' Ronald made you.0
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McDonald's is a corporation, supplying the people with what they want (demand). I don't see anything wrong with it. If you don't have the willpower to just keep on driving every time you pass one, then you're fat because you can't stop eating, not because ol' Ronald made you.0
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/jul/13/medicineandhealth.food
So many things wrong with what's been said where to start....
1. The lower socioeconomic sectors of the US are the ones most at risk of obesity. They are also the sector that spends a higher proportion of there income on consumables. In economic terms McD is an "inferior good" meaning the higher the income the less of it is purchased... (Correlation could be multi-determinable) eg. The higher the income the higher the education level the more a person knows about there health and has the ability to make intelligible health decisions.
2. McD does definitely have a lot to blame as does the government for not creating healthy policy around the food industry to account for market failure in the form of the externalities from such large fast food organisations. It wouldn't be the first time though; just look at the health system, or lack there of.
3. McD is not minding it's duty of care (in my opinion) by including addictive chemicals in it's food and not mitigating the damage it is causing. In Australia it is illegal to serve drunk people alcohol as it is dangerous; why is it legal to serve obese people highly fatty food?0 -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/jul/13/medicineandhealth.food
So many things wrong with what's been said where to start....
1. The lower socioeconomic sectors of the US are the ones most at risk of obesity. They are also the sector that spends a higher proportion of there income on consumables. In economic terms McD is an "inferior good" meaning the higher the income the less of it is purchased... (Correlation could be multi-determinable) eg. The higher the income the higher the education level the more a person knows about there health and has the ability to make intelligible health decisions.
2. McD does definitely have a lot to blame as does the government for not creating healthy policy around the food industry to account for market failure in the form of the externalities from such large fast food organisations. It wouldn't be the first time though; just look at the health system, or lack there of.
3. McD is not minding it's duty of care (in my opinion) by including addictive chemicals in it's food and not mitigating the damage it is causing. In Australia it is illegal to serve drunk people alcohol as it is dangerous; why is it legal to serve obese people highly fatty food?
This made me laugh.0 -
OMG McDonald's fries and whatever crack they put in their regular fountain Coke!0
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Should we blame every sugar cane farmer in the world because some people can't keep their paws off the Twinkies?
Hey now... I think I dress pretty darn snazzy.0 -
Much less than I would have thought0
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/jul/13/medicineandhealth.food
So many things wrong with what's been said where to start....
1. The lower socioeconomic sectors of the US are the ones most at risk of obesity. They are also the sector that spends a higher proportion of there income on consumables. In economic terms McD is an "inferior good" meaning the higher the income the less of it is purchased... (Correlation could be multi-determinable) eg. The higher the income the higher the education level the more a person knows about there health and has the ability to make intelligible health decisions.
2. McD does definitely have a lot to blame as does the government for not creating healthy policy around the food industry to account for market failure in the form of the externalities from such large fast food organisations. It wouldn't be the first time though; just look at the health system, or lack there of.
3. McD is not minding it's duty of care (in my opinion) by including addictive chemicals in it's food and not mitigating the damage it is causing. In Australia it is illegal to serve drunk people alcohol as it is dangerous; why is it legal to serve obese people highly fatty food?
This made me laugh.
me too! That is the biggest crock of sh&t ive heard in a long time. Its all about choices! Period, Everyone needs to stop being everyone's big brother.
now i have the choice to go in my kitchen and make myself a nice healthy breakfast or since there are 2 mcd within a 1/2 radius from my home I might go there! P.S. i dont live in the hood either.0 -
oh and have you had the mcgriddle? sweet baby jesus!0
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/jul/13/medicineandhealth.food
So many things wrong with what's been said where to start....
1. The lower socioeconomic sectors of the US are the ones most at risk of obesity. They are also the sector that spends a higher proportion of there income on consumables. In economic terms McD is an "inferior good" meaning the higher the income the less of it is purchased... (Correlation could be multi-determinable) eg. The higher the income the higher the education level the more a person knows about there health and has the ability to make intelligible health decisions.
2. McD does definitely have a lot to blame as does the government for not creating healthy policy around the food industry to account for market failure in the form of the externalities from such large fast food organisations. It wouldn't be the first time though; just look at the health system, or lack there of.
3. McD is not minding it's duty of care (in my opinion) by including addictive chemicals in it's food and not mitigating the damage it is causing. In Australia it is illegal to serve drunk people alcohol as it is dangerous; why is it legal to serve obese people highly fatty food?
This made me laugh.
me too! That is the biggest crock of sh&t ive heard in a long time. Its all about choices! Period, Everyone needs to stop being everyone's big brother.
now i have the choice to go in my kitchen and make myself a nice healthy breakfast or since there are 2 mcd within a 1/2 radius from my home I might go there! P.S. i dont live in the hood either.
Besides, do you really want the same people that classify ketchup as a vegetable telling you what is healthy to eat?0 -
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/jul/13/medicineandhealth.food
So many things wrong with what's been said where to start....
1. The lower socioeconomic sectors of the US are the ones most at risk of obesity. They are also the sector that spends a higher proportion of there income on consumables. In economic terms McD is an "inferior good" meaning the higher the income the less of it is purchased... (Correlation could be multi-determinable) eg. The higher the income the higher the education level the more a person knows about there health and has the ability to make intelligible health decisions.
2. McD does definitely have a lot to blame as does the government for not creating healthy policy around the food industry to account for market failure in the form of the externalities from such large fast food organisations. It wouldn't be the first time though; just look at the health system, or lack there of.
3. McD is not minding it's duty of care (in my opinion) by including addictive chemicals in it's food and not mitigating the damage it is causing. In Australia it is illegal to serve drunk people alcohol as it is dangerous; why is it legal to serve obese people highly fatty food?
Pretty impressive insight. Are you sure you are only 22 years old? *suspicious look*
The concept of "food poverty" is a worrying trend especially if you care about social inequality to any degree. Yes, people have free will and choice. However an important facet of choice is the state of being informed. If you do not know or have never been shown all the information either for or against something (say eating fast food) are you truly making a valid "choice". How can you actually "choose" when you know no better. Sadly people from poorer households tend to disproportionately fall into this trap of not having full information resulting in a higher instance of obesity than their wealthier counterparts.
As for the negative externalities / market failure point, well, you are brave trying to sell that on a US dominated board...As you know in a completely free market companies like McDonalds would in fact be rewarded for say polluting their surrounding environment. This is because polluting is the result of production and if a company is not compelled to deal with it they can sell their products at a cheaper price. This will in turn drive up demand resulting in greater profits. The market rewards them and as such their is more incentive to pollute not less. Anyone who thinks that the market alone can solve all the ills of the world without any kind of regulation needs to lay off the booze.0 -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/jul/13/medicineandhealth.food
So many things wrong with what's been said where to start....
1. The lower socioeconomic sectors of the US are the ones most at risk of obesity. They are also the sector that spends a higher proportion of there income on consumables. In economic terms McD is an "inferior good" meaning the higher the income the less of it is purchased... (Correlation could be multi-determinable) eg. The higher the income the higher the education level the more a person knows about there health and has the ability to make intelligible health decisions.
2. McD does definitely have a lot to blame as does the government for not creating healthy policy around the food industry to account for market failure in the form of the externalities from such large fast food organisations. It wouldn't be the first time though; just look at the health system, or lack there of.
3. McD is not minding it's duty of care (in my opinion) by including addictive chemicals in it's food and not mitigating the damage it is causing. In Australia it is illegal to serve drunk people alcohol as it is dangerous; why is it legal to serve obese people highly fatty food?
Pretty impressive insight. Are you sure you are only 22 years old? *suspicious look*
The concept of "food poverty" is a worrying trend especially if you care about social inequality to any degree. Yes, people have free will and choice. However an important facet of choice is the state of being informed. If you do not know or have never been shown all the information either for or against something (say eating fast food) are you truly making a valid "choice". How can you actually "choose" when you know no better. Sadly people from poorer households tend to disproportionately fall into this trap of not having full information resulting in a higher instance of obesity than their wealthier counterparts.
As for the negative externalities / market failure point, well, you are brave trying to sell that on a US dominated board...As you know in a completely free market companies like McDonalds would in fact be rewarded for say polluting their surrounding environment. This is because polluting is the result of production and if a company is not compelled to deal with it they can sell their products at a cheaper price. This will in turn drive up demand resulting in greater profits. The market rewards them and as such their is more incentive to pollute not less. Anyone who thinks that the market alone can solve all the ills of the world without any kind of regulation needs to lay off the booze.
I grew up poor, in a poor neighborhood and I went to a poor school. And I still knew that McDonald's was not healthy. I think it is crazy that you think poor people are also uneducated.0 -
I grew up poor, in a poor neighborhood and I went to a poor school. And I still knew that McDonald's was not healthy. I think it is crazy that you think poor people are also uneducated.
Many, (not all of course) are unfortunately when it comes to good diet. It may not be so much believing McDonalds to be healthy as knowing how to make nutritious meals, believing healthy produce is expensive and therefore it is easier or more accessible to go for fast food and associated issues with availability over information and resources on healthy living.
This lack of information does span all social classes. Hell, you just need to spend five minutes on these boards to see just how prevalent the lack of knowledge on nutrition extends. However it tends to fall on people more from poorer backgrounds.0 -
and they wonder why we have the highest obesity rate!
McDonalds is not at fault for our obesity rate,we are.
That's true, but food with extremely large amounts of sugar, saturated fat, and trans fat are literally addictive substances. Your body craves them like it would caffeine (which is in their giant troughs of soda) or nicotine, once they've been introduced into your system. Also, they still spend millions each year marketing to children- as a result, most people you ask who go to McDonald's on a regular basis, they can't even remember when they started going. It's such a deeply ingrained habit, a part of their lives since infancy, that they no longer question it. Some people even feel nostalgic about Ronald McDon
ald and want to pass the "tradition" on to their kids. McDonald's is not blameless in all this.0 -
This lack of information does span all social classes. Hell, you just need to spend five minutes on these boards to see just how prevalent the lack of knowledge on nutrition extends.
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