Why are diet soft drinks so bad?

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  • SiltyPigeon
    SiltyPigeon Posts: 920 Member
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    Ok. Lets solve this right now!

    Raise your hand if you have died as a direct result of the consumption of artificial sweeteners.

    No one?

    They're safe.
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
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    Ok. Lets solve this right now!

    Raise your hand if you have died as a direct result of the consumption of artificial sweeteners.

    No one?

    They're safe.

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,020 Member
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    Another arguement based in extreme comparisons. Carbs make you fat, processed food is unhealthy, saturated fat is evil, etc. Is common sense that ellusive?
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Ok. Lets solve this right now!

    Raise your hand if you have died as a direct result of the consumption of artificial sweeteners.

    No one?

    They're safe.

    That makes about as much sense as asking for a show of hands of anyone that has died of as a direct results of smoking (or dropping acid, or jumping off a tall building, or messing with Sasquatch) and declaring it safe when no hands are raised.
  • Pangea250
    Pangea250 Posts: 965 Member
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    Ok. Lets solve this right now!

    Raise your hand if you have died as a direct result of the consumption of artificial sweeteners.

    No one?

    They're safe.

    That makes about as much sense as asking for a show of hands of anyone that has died of as a direct results of smoking (or dropping acid, or jumping off a tall building, or messing with Sasquatch) and declaring it safe when no hands are raised.
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    Some things just can't be explained.
  • SimpleStepsHealthCoach
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    Hello everyone,

    This post seems like such a loaded thread with people arguing from one extreme to the other. I don't mean to add to it, or start any additional fires. I just want to add some insight and information vs. just hearsay.

    If we take a second and go back to the original poster's question, "Why are diet soft drinks so bad?" the short answer is the ongoing debate over aspartame. There are other reasons such as dental hygiene or weight gain as found in this Time Health article (http://tinyurl.com/6hwter4), but the big one on this is aspartame.

    Aspartame is an artificial, non-saccharide sweetener used as a sugar substitute in some foods and beverages. Equal, NutraSweet, and Canderel are examples of aspartame sweeteners. It was founded in 1965, approved for soda in 1983, and approved for sweet goods in 1993, and all restrictions removed in 1996.

    Here is where the controversy starts:

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    The following are not my words. Copied from: http://tinyurl.com/l9v3gz
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    In aspartames’ first 16 years of existence, the FDA absolutely positively refused it’s approval, stating it is dangerous and deadly. The Food and Drug Administration did it’s job, protecting the public. It refused to put Aspartame on the market. The Public Board of Inquiry, FDA Scientists and Investigators, The National Soft Drink Association (NSDA) and many, many others made their objections of any aspartame approval clearly known.

    Searle needed to try another maneuver, a political one, to get the approval they wanted so G. D. Searle hired Donald Rumsfeld in March 1977 as their CEO in this political effort. A former Member of Congress and Secretary of Defense in the Ford Administration, Rumsfeld soon hired several of his Washington cronies as top management.

    In a January 1981 sales meeting Rumsfeld stated that he would push for aspartames‘ approval using his political clout in Washington, rather than proper scientific means, to ensure aspartame’s approval.

    When Ronald Reagan, was sworn in as President of the United States, Reagan’s transition team, which included Donald Rumsfeld, CEO of Searle, hand picked Dr. Arthur Hull Hayes Jr. to be the new FDA Commissioner in January 1981.

    Dr. Arthur Hayes, Jr., ignoring the warnings and recommendations of his own internal FDA team, his own FDA scientists, overruled the Public Board of Inquiry. In one of his first official acts as the new FDA Commissioner, Arthur Hayes, Jr. approved NutraSweet (Aspartame) for dry products. Dr. Hayes then resigned two years later in 1983 and took a job with Burson-Marsteller, Searle’s public relations firm, as a senior scientific consultant. Burson-Marsteller also happened to represent several of NutraSeet’s major users.
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    A copy of the original FDA negative reports of Aspartame can be found: http://tinyurl.com/bwqeupm
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    For those who side on not trusting in FDA's scientific investigations; aspartame is associated with cancer, hair loss, asthma, seizures, weight gain, and even death. There are a total of 92 accounted negative side effects of aspartame found by third-party scientist and research labs.

    For more information about aspartame, there are sites dedicated to the artificial sweetener such as: http://dorway.com/, http://msgtruth.org/, http://www.sweetpoison.com/, and countless others. Movie watchers can check out The Beautiful Truth (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/beautiful-truth/), & Sweet Misery (http://products.mercola.com/sweet-misery-DVD/).

    With all this said, the ingredient is controversial - that means it's highly debatable and you will always find two sides of each story. The best thing you can do is to perform your own research and come to your own conclusion if you feel it's something you want to consume or not.

    My thought of it all is this is, aspartame would not be the first product introduced and deemed safe and was later found not be to be good for us. For me, I have no "need" to consume any product with it as an ingredient - so I just simply stay away from it and keep an ear out for what happens in the future. I guess I play the "better safe than sorry" role when it comes to these things. But that's my opinion and by no means I try to force this onto anyone else.

    Hope this helps answer the original question,
    y.
  • SiltyPigeon
    SiltyPigeon Posts: 920 Member
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    Ok. Lets solve this right now!

    Raise your hand if you have died as a direct result of the consumption of artificial sweeteners.

    No one?

    They're safe.

    That makes about as much sense as asking for a show of hands of anyone that has died of as a direct results of smoking (or dropping acid, or jumping off a tall building, or messing with Sasquatch) and declaring it safe when no hands are raised.

    No *kitten*, Sherlock.
  • bmqbonnie
    bmqbonnie Posts: 836 Member
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    There's some evidence that it's damaging to your health, but a lot of studies that suggest X is bad for you uses a ridiculous amount of X. One diet soda every other day is not going to do a lot of harm. 5 a day, yeah, maybe. Probably. I drink it sometimes but have cut back since brain tumors and other neurological problems run in my family and I just don't want to risk it.

    Someone mentioned that awful book Skinny B****, just have to say there is a TON of misinformation and bro(chick?)science in that book just from the perspective of someone that studied animal physiology. The twits that wrote that book are ex models (or one of them is, can't remember), not doctors or nutritionists or anything of the sort. I couldn't believe I wasted 10 bucks or whatever it was on that piece of crap.

    Of course water is better for you than diet soda. Will a diet soda here and there kill you? No. Will switching 100% to water cause a substantial loss? Probably not, but it would be pretty good for you.