High Fructose Corn Syrup = Poison

kennethmgreen

HFCS usually goes hand-in-hand with overconsumption of calories. That's about as far as I'd go though.

Hello and thank you!

Correlation != Causation

It's a common mistake, and used in sensationalist/alarmist journalism all the time.

CaptainMFP

Alarmism at its finest.

Yep. Seems like as of late many threads of "poison" in our foods have been appearing. It's gotta be the fault of the McRib.

And of course just about any substance can be a poison if consumed in large enough doses. Randomly calling something a poison don't make it so. Please see the poorly reported scare regarding dihydrogen monoxide (http://www.dhmo.org/) if you don't believe me.

RedheadHen

"Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin."

I don't have 90 minutes to listen to this ... but I think the above statement breaks down his point. TOO MUCH sugar and NOT ENOUGH fiber. That does not equal POISON! It equals Fatties!

dance_fit

I go back and forth on the HFCS debate. But I did a search for peer reviewed articles and found this one about mercury contamination in HFCS. That's enough to make me stay away from it.

Not so sweet: missing mercury and high fructose corn syrup: Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy.
Wallinga, D.; Sorensen, J.; Mottl, P.; Yablon B.
Alternative Medicine Review (1089-5159)
Jun 1, 2009. Vol.14,Iss.2;p.110

OR the PDF here: http://iowa.sierraclub.org/Mercury/HgandFructose.pdf

jenbit

Oh please my waaah alram is going off. :sad: I MADE MYSELF FAT!!!!! not HFCS not Mcdonalds not soda and not ice cream. Consuming to much junk food and not moving around enough mad me fat. Why are people so quick to blame food for their problems. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you eat things. But guess what Ive lost 30 LBS and Im still eating pizza nad ice cream and McDonalds. But in portion control. People seem to have forgotten an old conerstone saying. Everything in moderation.

HMonsterX

People are overweight/obese because they eat too many CALORIES. A CALORIE is a unit of energy which is stored by the body as fat when it is not used as expended energy. The source of the calorie is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to weight loss/gain. While I agree HFCS is not healthy, it's ridiculous to blame the obesity epidemic on HFCS.

People are fat because they eat too much, and they need to stop making excuses like "HFCS made me fat."

What a load of crap.

Exactly my view.

_gwen

Bookmarked to watch later.

+1

_gwen

I read an article about "skinny fat" forwarded from the CDC earlier this week. I can't find the CDC version right now, but this is essentially the same article:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45194344/ns/today-today_health/t/diabetes-growing-threat-young-slim

The claim is HFC calories tend to be stored as visceral fat, which in turn can lead to diabetes.

AwesomelyAmber

Oh please my waaah alram is going off. :sad: I MADE MYSELF FAT!!!!! not HFCS not Mcdonalds not soda and not ice cream. Consuming to much junk food and not moving around enough mad me fat. Why are people so quick to blame food for their problems. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you eat things. But guess what Ive lost 30 LBS and Im still eating pizza nad ice cream and McDonalds. But in portion control. People seem to have forgotten an old conerstone saying. Everything in moderation.

Jenbit... I can not thank you ENOUGH for this! I know we all have our own ways of taking this journey, but for ME it's about REAL LIFE. REAL LIFE for ME is birthday cake on birthdays, McDonald's when on a long drive, or even God forbid...something loaded with HFCS every now and then. If salad and chicken breast were the only things I could put in my mouth, this journey would NEVER happen for me.

Jolenebib

I don't care whether or not its poison - I avoid it just because I prefer the taste of table sugar over HFCS.

bluebird321

Eat as close to raw as possible and then HFCS won't be so much of an issue.

Just my opinion (i tend to be alarmist and paranoid) and I'm not diabetic or pre-diabetic, but at 49 I hate the thought of over-taxing my pancreas. I also tend to be alarmist when it comes to 2nd hand smoke etc.

ninerbuff

I go back and forth on the HFCS debate. But I did a search for peer reviewed articles and found this one about mercury contamination in HFCS. That's enough to make me stay away from it.

Not so sweet: missing mercury and high fructose corn syrup: Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy.
Wallinga, D.; Sorensen, J.; Mottl, P.; Yablon B.
Alternative Medicine Review (1089-5159)
Jun 1, 2009. Vol.14,Iss.2;p.110

OR the PDF here: http://iowa.sierraclub.org/Mercury/HgandFructose.pdf

Dang, does that mean sushi is out too?


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Juliane_

Yes we get fat due to consuming more calories. In addition to portion size what effect do you think this cheap syrup sugar has on your taste buds and consumption levels?

Try going for months without sugar and HFCS. Substitute Stevia and then go back and try to have that regular coke or the raspberry lemonade at the restaurant. It is OVERLY sweet. Too much. Right now for me 1 tsp is enough to sweeten my morning oatmeal for example. I don't need double the amount of sugar on my oatmeal to feel it's sweater. When you consume more sugar what else do you think goes up?....uhhh...calories, yes.

It may not be poison but people look at yourselves. How do you feel different foods affect you? How do you feel after 2 hrs of eating a specific food? Are you hungrier? Satisfied? Cravings? Studies are cool and all but most importantly I think as an individual you can test how a specific food affects you. All of this together influences how easy or harder it is for you to consume less calories (think of feeling like you are battling your hunger to stay within the calorie limits vs a smoother easier ride down weight loss lane). Just saying! Sugar & HFCS is not a nutrient dense food regardless and it will not satisfy you...it only satisfies your taste buds and increases your caloric intake. And in regards to portion sizes from back in the day to today, also remember that today we are doing less exercise than we once were. We were much more active in the past.

SIGP229

I go back and forth on the HFCS debate. But I did a search for peer reviewed articles and found this one about mercury contamination in HFCS. That's enough to make me stay away from it.

Not so sweet: missing mercury and high fructose corn syrup: Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy.
Wallinga, D.; Sorensen, J.; Mottl, P.; Yablon B.
Alternative Medicine Review (1089-5159)
Jun 1, 2009. Vol.14,Iss.2;p.110

OR the PDF here: http://iowa.sierraclub.org/Mercury/HgandFructose.pdf

From the primary source regarding mercury content, consuming 50g of HCFS (the US average) can lead to a maximum of 28 μg of mercury consumed.

To put this in perspective, a single can of tuna contains around 87μg, over THREE TIMES as much.

kateroot

We are still fully responsible for taking care of our own bodies and being responsible consumers. We can't blame increased portion sizes or decreased activity levels or HFCS or sugar or soft drinks or anything else. Just because a restaurant serves you more pasta than they would have 20 years ago doesn't mean you have to eat the whole plate until you're so full it hurts. Our bodies will tell us what and how much we need to eat.. we just need to learn to listen to them.

bruthacuervo

Responsibility?? WAIT.. i thought i could eat a metric ton of carrots in one sitting and be perfectly healthy!!!! What are these lies people are spreading!!! THATS why im fat. And Orange. SOMEONE SHOULD TELL ME THESE THINGS!!!!

ninjapixie87

Fact is FOOD is one reason so many people are obese.

There. Fixed it.



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