whats thanksgiving?

ElizabethRoad

i thought this was a joke at first. i can't stop laughing.

Why? I wouldn't expect a non-American to know our holidays... especially considering how most Americans aren't aware of any other culture's holidays.

Because google.

anubis609

It's a day to celebrate the slaughtering of honey glazed swine and flightless fowl, garnished with bread crumbs laced with the entrails of the latter, and accompanied by a canned gelatinous mass of what are supposed to be beets and yam.

LadyGhostDuchess

Thanksgiving
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Thanksgiving Day
Thanksgiving Day
Saying grace before carving a turkey at Thanksgiving dinner, Pennsylvania, U.S., 1942
Observed by Canada
Leiden flag.svg Leiden, Netherlands
Liberia
Norfolk Island
United States
Puerto Rico
Type National, cultural
Date 2nd Monday in October (Canada)
1st Thursday in November (Liberia)
Last Wednesday in November (Norfolk Island)
4th Thursday in November (USA and Leiden, Netherlands)
2011 date

October 10, 2011 (Canada);
November 3, 2011 (Liberia);
November 30, 2011 (Norfolk Island);
November 24, 2011 (USA and Leiden, Netherlands)
2012 date

October 8, 2012 (Canada);
November 1, 2012 (Liberia);
November 28, 2012 (Norfolk Island);
November 22, 2012 (USA, Puerto Rico and Leiden, Netherlands)

Thanksgiving Day is a holiday celebrated primarily in the United States and Canada. Thanksgiving is celebrated each year on the second Monday of October in Canada and on the fourth Thursday of November in the United States. Thanksgiving in Canada falls on the same day as Columbus Day in the United States. Because of the longstanding traditions of the holiday, the celebration often extends to the weekend that falls closest to the day it is celebrated.
Contents
[hide]

* 1 History
o 1.1 In Canada
o 1.2 In the United States
+ 1.2.1 Contending origins
o 1.3 Fixing the date of the holiday
* 2 Observance around the world
o 2.1 Canada
o 2.2 Grenada
o 2.3 Liberia
o 2.4 The Netherlands
o 2.5 Norfolk Island
o 2.6 United States
* 3 References
* 4 Further reading
* 5 External links

History

Thanksgiving in North America had originated from a mix of European and Native traditions.[1] Typically in Europe, festivals were held before and after the harvest cycles to give thanks for a good harvest, and to rejoice together after much hard work with the rest of the community.[1] At the time, Native Americans had also celebrated the end of a harvest season.[1] When Europeans first arrived to the Americas, they brought with them their own harvest festival traditions from Europe, celebrating their safe voyage, peace and good harvest.[1] Though the origins of the holiday in both Canada and the United States are similar, Americans do not typically celebrate the contributions made in Newfoundland, while Canadians do not celebrate the contributions made in Plymouth, Massachusetts.[2]
In Canada
Main article: Thanksgiving (Canada)
The Order of Good Cheer, 1606 by Charles William Jefferys, (1925).

The origin of the first Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to the explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Pacific Ocean. Frobisher's Thanksgiving celebration was not for harvest, but in thanks for surviving the long journey from England through the perils of storms and icebergs. On his third and final voyage to these regions in 1578 Frobisher held a formal ceremony in Frobisher Bay in Baffin Island in present Day Nunavut to give thanks to God and in a service ministered by the preacher Robert Wolfall they celebrated Communion, the first ever service in these regions.[3] Years later, the tradition of a feast would continue as more settlers began to arrive to the Canadian colonies.[4]
Oven roasted turkey

The origins of Canadian Thanksgiving can also be traced to the French settlers who came to New France with explorer Samuel de Champlain in the early 17th century, who also took to celebrating their successful harvests. The French settlers in the area typically had feasts at the end of the harvest season and continued throughout the winter season, even sharing their food with the indigenous peoples of the area.[5] Champlain had also proposed for the creation of the Order of Good Cheer in 1606.[6]

As many more settlers arrived in Canada, more celebrations of good harvest became common. New immigrants into the country, such as the Irish, Scottish and Germans, would also add their own traditions to the harvest celebrations. Most of the U.S. aspects of Thanksgiving (such as the turkey or what were called Guineafowls originating from Madagascar}, were incorporated when United Empire Loyalists began to flee from the United States during the American Revolution and settled in Canada.[5]
In the United States
Main article: Thanksgiving (United States)
The First Thanksgiving at Plymouth By Jennie A. Brownscombe (1914)

In the United States, the modern Thanksgiving holiday tradition traces its origins to a 1621 celebration at Plymouth in present-day Massachusetts. There is also evidence for an earlier harvest celebration on the continent by Spanish explorers in Florida during 1565, as well as thanksgiving feasts in the Virginia Colony. The initial thanksgiving observance at Virginia in 1619 was prompted by the colonists' leaders on the anniversary of the settlement.[7] The 1621 Plymouth feast and thanksgiving was prompted by a good harvest. In later years, the tradition was continued by civil leaders such as Governor Bradford who planned a thanksgiving celebration and fast in 1623.[8][9][10] While initially, the Plymouth colony did not have enough food to feed half of the 102 colonists, the Wampanoag Native Americans helped the Pilgrims by providing seeds and teaching them to fish. The practice of holding an annual harvest festival like this did not become a regular affair in New England until the late 1660s.[11]

According to historian Jeremy Bangs, director of the Leiden American Pilgrim Museum, the Pilgrims may have been influenced by watching the annual services of Thanksgiving for the relief of the siege of Leiden in 1574, while they were staying in Leiden.[12]
Contending origins

The claim of where the first Thanksgiving was held in the United States, and even the Americas has often been a subject of debate. Author and teacher Robyn Gioia and Michael Gannon, of the University of Florida, have argued that the earliest attested "Thanksgiving" celebration in what is now the United States was celebrated by the Spanish on September 8, 1565, in what is now Saint Augustine, Florida.[13][14]

Similarly, many historians point out that the first thanksgiving celebration in the United States was held in Virginia, and not in Plymouth. Thanksgiving services were routine in what was to become the Commonwealth of Virginia as early as 1607.[15] A day of Thanksgiving was codified in the founding charter of Berkeley Hundred in Charles City County, Virginia in 1619.[16]
Fixing the date of the holiday

The reason for the earlier Thanksgiving celebrations in Canada has often been attributed to the earlier onset of winter in the north, thus ending the harvest season earlier.[17] Thanksgiving in Canada did not have a fixed date until the late 19th century. Prior to Canadian confederation, many of the individual colonial governors of the Canadian provinces had declared their own days of Thanksgiving. The first official Canadian Thanksgiving occurred on April 15, 1872 when the nation was celebrating the Prince of Wales' recovery from a serious illness.[17] By the end of the 19th Century, Thanksgiving Day was normally celebrated on November 6. However, when World War I ended, the Armistice Day holiday were usually held during the same week. To prevent the two holidays from clashing with one another, in 1957 the Canadian Parliament proclaimed Thanksgiving to be observed on its present date on the second Monday of October.[5] Since 1971, when the American Uniform Monday Holiday Act took effect, the American observance of Columbus Day has coincided with the Canadian observance of Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving in the United States, much like in Canada, was observed on various dates throughout history. The dates of Thanksgiving in the era of the Founding Fathers until the time of Lincoln had been decided by each state on various dates. The first Thanksgiving celebrated on the same date by all states was in 1863 by presidential proclamation. The final Thursday in November had become the customary date of Thanksgiving in most U.S. states by the beginning of the 20th century. And so, in an effort by President Abraham Lincoln (influenced by the campaigning of author Sarah Josepha Hale who wrote letters to politicans for around 40 years trying to make it an official holiday), to foster a sense of American unity between the Northern and Southern states, proclaimed the date to be the final Thursday in November.[15]

It was not until December 26, 1941, that the unified date changed to the fourth Thursday (and not always final) in November -this time by federal legislation. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, after two years earlier offering his own proclamation to move the date earlier, with the reason of giving the country an economic boost, agreed to sign a bill into law with Congress, making Thanksgiving a national holiday on the fourth (not final) Thursday in November.
Observance around the world
Canada
Main article: Thanksgiving (Canada)

Thanksgiving, or Thanksgiving Day (Canadian French: Jour de l'Action de grâce), occurring on the second Monday in October, is an annual Canadian holiday to give thanks at the close of the harvest season. Although the original act of Parliament references God and the holiday is celebrated in churches, the holiday is mostly celebrated in a secular manner. Thanksgiving is a statutory holiday in all provinces in Canada, except for New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. While businesses may remain open in these provinces, the holiday is nonetheless, recognized and celebrated regardless of its status.[18][19][20][21][22]
Grenada

In the West Indian island of Grenada, there is a national holiday known as Thanksgiving Day which is celebrated on October 25. Even though it bears the same name, and is celebrated at roughly the same time as the American and Canadian versions of Thanksgiving, this holiday is unrelated to either of those celebrations. Instead the holiday marks the anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of the island in 1983, in response to the deposition and execution of Grenadian Prime Minister Maurice Bishop.[23]
Liberia

In the West African country of Liberia, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the first Thursday of November.[24]
The Netherlands

Many of the Pilgrims who migrated to the Plymouth Plantation had resided in the city of Leiden from 1609–1620, many of whom had recorded their birth, marriages and deaths at the Pieterskerk.[25] To commemorate this, a non-denominational Thanksgiving Day service is held each year on the morning of the American Thanksgiving Day in the Pieterskerk, a Gothic church in Leiden, to commemorate the hospitality the Pilgrims received in Leiden on their way to the New World.[26]
Norfolk Island

In the Australian external territory of Norfolk Island, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the last Wednesday of November, similar to the pre-World War II American observance on the last Thursday of the month. This means the Norfolk Island observance is the day before or six days after the United States' observance. The holiday was brought to the island by visiting American whaling ships.[27]
United States
Main article: Thanksgiving (United States)

Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving Day, currently celebrated on the fourth Thursday in November by federal legislation in 1941, has been an annual tradition in the United States by presidential proclamation since 1863 and by state legislation since the Founding Fathers of the United States. Historically, Thanksgiving began as a tradition of celebrating the harvest of the year.[28]



(copy and paste :laugh:)

_Timmeh_

Family, good food, good friends.....ahhh I love Thanksgiving.

CaptainGordo

i thought this was a joke at first. i can't stop laughing.

Why? I wouldn't expect a non-American to know our holidays... especially considering how most Americans aren't aware of any other culture's holidays.

Should they be expected to, really? If one is curious about the topic, more power to them. If not, who cares?

rmsrws

Thanksgiving eve is one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. Most people don't have to work the next day.

I personally would like to fast forward through the holiday season here in the U.S.

Any countries out there I can defect too that don't celebrate all these "family holidays?"

ElizabethRoad

I agree with what everyone posted above, but they left out a few key points:
*many of the men sit around and watch football all day, and
*the women cook and clean until they are thoroughly exhausted. Traditional fare includes a roasted turkey, stuffing, cranberries, potatos, pumpkin pie, and much, much more.
*The holiday always takes place on the fourth Thursday of November in the US and the second Monday in October in Canada.


The following day is BlackFriday where many of the stores have major sales that start early in the morning to jump start the Christmas holiday.

Your family is pretty sexist, huh?

Totally agree.
If the guys want a massive feast they can cook it themselves!

Well I'm lucky - my in-laws like to do all the cooking themselves and the rest of us just get to eat. They have been doing this a long time and if we try to help we just get in the way, lol.

JulieBoBoo

My apologies to Mexico and the other Central American countries included in North America.

12skipafew99100

Our national (USA) holiday really stems from the feast held in the autumn of 1621 by the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag to celebrate the colony's first successful harvest.

CaptainGordo

It's an American holiday basically celebrating the harvest and giving thanks for blessings we've had throughout the year.

We celebrate it in Canada too.......

Someone from Canada posted yesterday that Canadian Thanksgiving is entirely different. My cousin's husband is Canadian and he never makes a big deal about it.

I am Canadian and this is true, it is not as a big of a deal like it is in the States. We certainly don't have a Thanksgiving Parade, LOL.

It's one parade in one city. Not a central feature of the holiday for most folks in the states.

xSophia19

seen a few of my friends on here post things about thanksgiving. what exactly is it?! am i missing out on a huge party or something?

It's my favorite holiday. No one judges you for how much you eat that day because everyone is too busy stuffing their own face.... Hee Hee.

My cousin hosts every year and she is a gormet chef, so it's yum!!! My family gets together at her house and we drink wine and chat and eat, then go for a walk... it's great fun.

Where are you from?

Awsome! We should celebrate something like this, sounds really interesting and id love to have a day of stuffing my face and drinking wine!!

Oh and i live in Wales (UK)

Mallory0418

i thought this was a joke at first. i can't stop laughing.

Why? I wouldn't expect a non-American to know our holidays... especially considering how most Americans aren't aware of any other culture's holidays.

Because google.

True, but also rude. No getting around that.

12skipafew99100

Thanksgiving eve is one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. Most people don't have to work the next day.

I personally would like to fast forward through the holiday season here in the U.S.

Any countries out there I can defect too that don't celebrate all these "family holidays?"

I actually have never heard of drinking the night before Thanksgiving. Its not a "thing" in my area.

Wynterbourne

I agree with what everyone posted above, but they left out a few key points:
*many of the men sit around and watch football all day, and
*the women cook and clean until they are thoroughly exhausted. Traditional fare includes a roasted turkey, stuffing, cranberries, potatos, pumpkin pie, and much, much more.

In my family, my dad does the cooking AND the cleaning and does not watch football. We women sit around and watch movies. :drinker:

CaptainGordo

Sorrry i live in the UK, so when my american friends mention it i have noo idea what it is and i was just wanting to know!

I think the UK should do thanksgiving! Id be goood at celebrating with drinks and food

But noooo the UK is tooo lame for that sorta thing!

Since the holiday in the States is tied to the arrival of Puritan pilgrims fleeing England's religious persecution, Brits could celebrate the departure of those wet blanket Puritans! :laugh:

killagb

It's an American holiday basically celebrating the harvest and giving thanks for blessings we've had throughout the year.

We celebrate it in Canada too.......

Someone from Canada posted yesterday that Canadian Thanksgiving is entirely different. My cousin's husband is Canadian and he never makes a big deal about it.

I am Canadian and this is true, it is not as a big of a deal like it is in the States. We certainly don't have a Thanksgiving Parade, LOL.

It's one parade in one city. Not a central feature of the holiday for most folks in the states.

Actually we have a parade in Seattle as well. I think many major cities tend to.

CaptainGordo

My apologies to Mexico and the other Central American countries included in North America.

I'd say I feel bad that they are missing out in Mexico, but they will have ridiculous amounts of tamales around Christmas. :laugh:

rml_16

It's an American holiday basically celebrating the harvest and giving thanks for blessings we've had throughout the year.

We celebrate it in Canada too.......

Someone from Canada posted yesterday that Canadian Thanksgiving is entirely different. My cousin's husband is Canadian and he never makes a big deal about it.

I guess it depends on the person. My family certainly makes a big deal of it and it is a Statutory Holiday. We do the turkey and all the trimming complete with pumpkin pie and always have.

We don't have Black Friday though. Our big sale day is Boxing day which is the day after Christmas.

Maybe. I don't know. I lived next to Canada, but never in it, so I was just going by what was posted. I should know better! lol

Boxing Day is my birthday. Of course it's a big shopping day!

OP -- You should just start a pigging out holiday in England! :-)

CaptainGordo

I am Canadian and this is true, it is not as a big of a deal like it is in the States. We certainly don't have a Thanksgiving Parade, LOL.

It's one parade in one city. Not a central feature of the holiday for most folks in the states.

Actually we have a parade in Seattle as well. I think many major cities tend to.

Oh, well that's lame...

:laugh:

AdAstra47

Wow, all these replies and not a single person mentioned the First Thanksgiving? :laugh:

(Dusting off my Elementary School Teacher credentials)
(Don't worry, I won't make you trace your hand and make a turkey drawing out of it, or create a Plymouth Village diorama)

The modern Thanksgiving holiday tradition traces its origins to a 1621 celebration at Plymouth in present-day Massachusetts, prompted by a good harvest. While initially the Plymouth colony did not have enough food to feed half of the 102 colonists, the Wampanoag Native Americans helped the Pilgrims by providing seeds and teaching them to fish. So the Natives and Pilgrims celebrated the first Thanksgiving together. This is the event which is commemorated by our modern Thanksgiving.

States celebrated at different times until 1863, when it was made a national holiday and the date was fixed by presidential proclamation. It was an effort by President Abraham Lincoln to foster a sense of American unity between the Northern and Southern states.

That's the U.S. version. I don't know nothin' 'bout our upstairs neighbors in Canada... I assume the origins are similar.

(EDIT: by the time I'd finished writing this, several people had posted info about the 1st Thanksgiving. Oh, well...)

rml_16

I agree with what everyone posted above, but they left out a few key points:
*many of the men sit around and watch football all day, and
*the women cook and clean until they are thoroughly exhausted. Traditional fare includes a roasted turkey, stuffing, cranberries, potatos, pumpkin pie, and much, much more.
*The holiday always takes place on the fourth Thursday of November in the US and the second Monday in October in Canada.


The following day is BlackFriday where many of the stores have major sales that start early in the morning to jump start the Christmas holiday.

My boyfriend's cooking half the meal and I'll be dammed if he's not going to help clean up. He's also going to be the only man there ...

He tried talking me into letting him cook the turkey, but he's working until 1:30, so even if I was going to let him, it wouldn't work out if we want to eat that day!

AdAstra47

Sorrry i live in the UK, so when my american friends mention it i have noo idea what it is and i was just wanting to know!

I think the UK should do thanksgiving! Id be goood at celebrating with drinks and food

But noooo the UK is tooo lame for that sorta thing!

Since the holiday in the States is tied to the arrival of Puritan pilgrims fleeing England's religious persecution, Brits could celebrate the departure of those wet blanket Puritans! :laugh:

LOL. This comment made my day.

CaptainGordo

Since the holiday in the States is tied to the arrival of Puritan pilgrims fleeing England's religious persecution, Brits could celebrate the departure of those wet blanket Puritans! :laugh:

LOL. This comment made my day.

Debauchery Day!

mikeyml

Thanksgiving eve is one of the busiest drinking nights of the year. Most people don't have to work the next day.

I personally would like to fast forward through the holiday season here in the U.S.

Any countries out there I can defect too that don't celebrate all these "family holidays?"

I actually have never heard of drinking the night before Thanksgiving. Its not a "thing" in my area.

It's true. In my area the night before Thanksgiving is the busiest drinking night of the year. I was surprised to find that out as I would have guessed New Years Eve or St. Patrick's Day.

RunHardBeStrong

Evidently, it's a day for many an MFPer to PANIC!

LMAO!!! Yes that's what it is according to a lot of the board posts I've read today!!

Hellbent_Heidi

It's one parade in one city. Not a central feature of the holiday for most folks in the states.

I'm assuming you're referring to New York, but Detroit has a HUGE long-standing Thanksgiving Day parade tradition, and I'm guessing there are plenty of other cities in the U.S. that follow suit.

mcintyrekn

It always confused me too!
You have it like a week before xmas, and your suppose to have a massive turkey dinner aswell..
Is it just like an added celebration so that people have something to do with the left over turkey?

Is this serious?
Haha Its a whole month before Christmas! Not to mention, its all about giving thanks for what you have. Spending time with the people that you love. It is one of the major holidays in the US and we love it. Its all about friends, family, and food! There is nothing more fulfilling than sitting around the table with people that you love and sharing a meal. It really is beautiful ( I'm such a friggen sap).

_Timmeh_

If you don't know how to cook, or can't or just don't want to.....lot's of places sell pre made Thanksgiving dinners.

xSophia19

Oh blimey, i ask one simple question and look at all these answers i get =L

CaptainGordo

It's one parade in one city. Not a central feature of the holiday for most folks in the states.

I'm assuming you're referring to New York, but Detroit has a HUGE long-standing Thanksgiving Day parade tradition, and I'm guessing there are plenty of other cities in the U.S. that follow suit.

Yeah, I blew that one. I figured that the comment was referring to NYC Macy's parade.