SPLENDA.... and other artificial sweeteners Im sure

MattySparky

I was vaccinated as a child... against many things that my parents didn't research on their own. There are many vaccines out there today that are...brace yourself... garbage! Im sure you've done some research on the topic, but we've researched the topic of vaccination extensively. Im sure you know of the many vaccinations that contain aborted monkey fetus tissue? Or how about vaccinating against chickenpox? What for?

Anyways, Im sorry I've **** in everyones breakfast by bringing up something about splenda which I believe in. I didn't intend on it going this far, I just have strong opinions as do many of you. As far as something I said being provocative, well that's a matter of interpretation I guess. Ill try to keep my stronger opinions to myself as they seem to cause some friction, which is totally fine - I can handle that. Please dont be offended though, from what I've seen just about everyone on this site voices their opinions on various topics.

Kimono

Sparky, Just a note, Shingles look it up, can't get if you haven't had the chicken pox. My daughter got shingles when she was 5. Soooo painful. Not to mention what it does to the elderly. Oh and the only way she was able to get shingles is because she got the chicken pox because I decided not to vaccinate her for chicken pox. I thought the same way you do, Chicken Pox just a couple of bumps right?? Ask someone who has went blind about that after they gtt shingles in their eyes. It happens, look it up.

songbyrdsweet

I was vaccinated as a child... against many things that my parents didn't research on their own. There are many vaccines out there today that are...brace yourself... garbage! Im sure you've done some research on the topic, but we've researched the topic of vaccination extensively. Im sure you know of the many vaccinations that contain aborted monkey fetus tissue? Or how about vaccinating against chickenpox? What for?

Anyways, Im sorry I've **** in everyones breakfast by bringing up something about splenda which I believe in. I didn't intend on it going this far, I just have strong opinions as do many of you. As far as something I said being provocative, well that's a matter of interpretation I guess. Ill try to keep my stronger opinions to myself as they seem to cause some friction, which is totally fine - I can handle that. Please dont be offended though, from what I've seen just about everyone on this site voices their opinions on various topics.

On the contrary, I'm actually taking epidemiology right now and I haven't been told about any useless vaccines made from aborted monkey fetus.
But you know, I'm okay with being injected with some aborted monkey fetus if it protects me and other people from debilitating and potentially deadly diseases like polio, meningitis, chicken pox, small pox, measles, rubella...and so on. We vaccinate to prevent pandemics like the Flu in 1918 that killed 550,000 Americans in 10 months. Or smallpox, which was fortunately eradicated through vaccinations that led to herd immunity just years ago. Or HPV, which is present in 80% of sexually active young people and killed the mother of one of my best friends. Vaccinations protect the entire human race and have controlled dozens of diseases that used to take the lives of the very young and elderly.
If you don't want to be vaccinated, fine, but please wash your hands and don't come into contact with people who might be susceptible to deadly diseases....

MissResa

I am glad that we can post our opinions on this website... It keeps things interesting, and I hope that no one took my "tone of voice" to be mean-hearted in any way. I have heard of autism being associated with some vaccinations, but I don't know all of the facts. I am very thankful for all of the life-saving medications out there, and also for the simplest medicines that can keep me and my family healthy or comfortable during times of illness. To each his(or her) own, and don't let our opinions stop you from stating your own... :flowerforyou:

justdoingit

I just read the results of the study and was stunned. Here is a quote from it: "These changes occurred at Splenda dosages that contained sucralose at 1.1-11 mg/kg (the US FDA Acceptable Daily Intake for sucralose is 5 mg/kg). " I guess the study conducted used very low amounts of the sweetner. I have been drinking sugar free hot cocoa for weeks and now have a daily headache that won't go away.

As of today, I am no longer eating products that contain this stuff!

prayerfulmom

Interesting many different views. We filter things through our life experinces. One may never have a second thought about artificial sweetners then develop cancer and change the way they eat avoiding articifial anything at all cost.

On medications: I for one would pop an ibuprofin at the drop of a hat. Never stopped to read the label. Now I filter differently (literaly). I have kidney disease and ibuprofin are kidney killers. I won't judge other for taking them. But it is good for people to be educated....really I never knew. I really don't take anything any longer; but if worse came to worse I'd have to read the warnings and weigh the options.

We all filter things different through life's experinces. We should respect that.:flowerforyou:

MissResa

Very well-put, prayerfulmom...

Fitness_Chick

Interesting many different views. We filter things through our life experinces. One may never have a second thought about artificial sweetners then develop cancer and change the way they eat avoiding articifial anything at all cost.

On medications: I for one would pop an ibuprofin at the drop of a hat. Never stopped to read the label. Now I filter differently (literaly). I have kidney disease and ibuprofin are kidney killers. I won't judge other for taking them. But it is good for people to be educated....really I never knew. I really don't take anything any longer; but if worse came to worse I'd have to read the warnings and weigh the options.

We all filter things different through life's experinces. We should respect that.:flowerforyou:

You've worded that nicely:flowerforyou: Thank you

Fitness_Chick

I just read the results of the study and was stunned. Here is a quote from it: "These changes occurred at Splenda dosages that contained sucralose at 1.1-11 mg/kg (the US FDA Acceptable Daily Intake for sucralose is 5 mg/kg). " I guess the study conducted used very low amounts of the sweetner. I have been drinking sugar free hot cocoa for weeks and now have a daily headache that won't go away.

As of today, I am no longer eating products that contain this stuff!

:flowerforyou:

MattySparky

Thanks for everyones interest in this thread! I hope I didn't offend anyone, but if I did then I appologize (not for my opinions but for being offensive). I have some strong opinions and the delivery on a forum is always tough because of course tone is VERY hard to tell (especially since I dont use the emoticons). I just wanted to say that I was never here to argue and if it came accross that way then forgive me. I believe what I believe for my reasons, they are researched and they have merit behind them, but Im not some kind of missionary trying to change everyone. I hope that's not how I've come accross. Regardless though, it's been a good rant and I still stick to my guns as I hope all of you do as well.

MissResa

I hope I don't step on any toes by asking this, but has anyone heard anything negative about Truvia? It's another sugar substitute that's new out there...

MattySparky

We vaccinate to prevent pandemics like the Flu in 1918 that killed 550,000 Americans in 10 months.

one last kick at the cat here... I believe "we" vaccinate because we have been programmed for centuries to believe that it's the only way. We are afraid to let our immune systems adapt to new things and in turn we fuel yet another multi million dollar business which clouds the facts and keeps us in the dark. And just for your knowledge, the MMR vaccine contains (among other disgusting things) aborted monkey fetus tissue. Dont expect to learn any of this in school though. If you decide to put that crap into your body by all means go ahead... kind of defeats the purpose of eating clean though doesn't it?

songbyrdsweet

We vaccinate to prevent pandemics like the Flu in 1918 that killed 550,000 Americans in 10 months.

one last kick at the cat here... I believe "we" vaccinate because we have been programmed for centuries to believe that it's the only way. We are afraid to let our immune systems adapt to new things and in turn we fuel yet another multi million dollar business which clouds the facts and keeps us in the dark. And just for your knowledge, the MMR vaccine contains (among other disgusting things) aborted monkey fetus tissue. Dont expect to learn any of this in school though. If you decide to put that crap into your body by all means go ahead... kind of defeats the purpose of eating clean though doesn't it?

There's a little problem with 'letting immune systems adapt'--it doesn't happen. The only reason the flu pandemic didn't wipe out the entire population was that a very few people were naturally immune, and it killed so many people so fast that it ran out of hosts. But not after killing those Americans plus 30 million Europeans. If you're not immune, you won't adapt. You'll die. The offspring of the naturally immune will live on, but they won't be your offspring. Alternately, you and your offspring will survive and procreate and produce more immune offspring, which is good, but still not for the naturally non-immune. I don't want MMR, and I don't want to pass that to anyone else, regardless of whether it contains 'aborted monkey fetus', although I'm sure that's just a bastardization of saying it contains antibodies cultured from monkey tissue. It's not about being afraid of letting our immune systems adapt, it's about not having evolved an immunity. It's not like the flu where you're sick for 3 days and you suppress the virus (which lives on in your body for as long as you do).

What you're talking about is natural selection, and while that's a good concept--only the strongest survive--it's not so great in practice when you and your children perish when you're not the strongest. Now that's defeating the purpose of clean eating.

Dave198lbs

one last kick at the cat here... I believe "we" vaccinate because we have been programmed for centuries to believe that it's the only way.

well...I have neve kicked a cat and I openly discourage the practice...sarcasm aside and I really don't kick cats....opinions are a good thing but spouting hogwash will get you a foul smelling backspray
peace

MissResa

I definitely understand the necessity of vaccinations... And I make sure to get a flu shot for myself and my kids every year. My husband went on multiple deployments, and although they scare me, he also got anthrax and smallpox vaccinations before he went overseas. I guess that for me and my family, we will pick getting vaccinations before getting sick because we've gone without... But it's a person's prerogative, right?

MattySparky... Did you get your kids vaccinated? I'm just curious how that works out with school and all. Do they allow kids to attend public school without having all their shots? In AK where I live, we are required to have all their shots in order before they are allowed to attend.

allaboutme

You guys ever hear of Truvia? Totally natural sweeter, no calories, comes from a plant :happy:

MissResa

I posted the same earlier... But no one seems to have an opinion on Truvia...:bigsmile:

allaboutme

My sister grew the plant in her garden last year, tastes just like sugar, no aftertaste. They should try it, would eliminate the controversy:laugh:

AmyNVegas

I haven't tried Truvia but Stevia does have an after taste as processed. Erythritol is a sugar alcohol that is less sweet than sugar. You can get pure erythritol on Emerald Forest site in packets or by the pound. They also sell xylitol. Neither of which have an after taste. Xylitol can be baked with no problem but not erythritol or stevia. They do not keep their sweetness when baked.

Matty I can see your point about the natural medicines. I think if more people were given the choice by their insurance companies to use naturopathic or homeopathic remedies and medical professionals they would but as it stands most are not covered by medical plans and herbal remedies as well as alternative medicine can be quite costly even though very effective. I have a very comprehensive plan here but only accupuncture, chiropractors, and visits to nutritionists are covered by my plan in the way of natural treatments. I spend a lot of money each year to get the alternative whole food remedies I use and often do not have the money to replenish so I have to go for the cheap fix which I know in the long run like ibuprofen is not the best. I can get an all natural anti-inflammant from my chiro for $20.00 but it only has 15 day supply when IB is only $7.99 for the bottle of 500. I wish more plans would start to cover the natural remedies. I would gladly try them instead of traditional medicine. I watched my mom die of cancer and before that I saw how every medication they gave her warranted a new medication to combat the side effects of the last one. It was a horrible cycle and she was taking over 10 meds a day before she got cancer. No wonder her pancreas couldn't function and her amonia levels rose to unbelieveable levels. It really opened my eyes and I can't wait for the day our health care system opens it's eyes and gives us better choices. On the other hand I am definitely a believer in vaccinations.

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MissResa

I do like Truvia, and I use it to make my iced tea... And I don't think it has an aftertaste like some of the *gasp* sugar substitutes that I have used:laugh: . I think everything needs to be used in moderation.

AmyNVegas... I am so sorry about your mom. I lost an Aunt to cancer about 5 years ago... Now that's a disease that I wish would just go away... But losing her to cancer made me quit smoking-pretty stupid to do something like that to yourself, and be concerned about artificial sweeteners, right?:ohwell:

MattySparky

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