Tired of the myths--how do you get accurate info?

FrankWorsley
FrankWorsley Posts: 106 Member
edited October 5 in Food and Nutrition
There is so much health advice out there these days. Browsing these forums gives ample evidence of the vast amount of ideas (there are some myths/bad information that just won't die) circulating. A lot of "experts" would like to sell you their book/dvd/etc. Some are clearly wrong while others seem to have some accurate information. I like the Mayo Clinic website because it appears to have some well-supported, solid recommendations: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-weight-pyramid/SA00103 What sources do you find reliable?
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  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    Honestly, one of my best resources is just thinking back to the workouts I did on the track team in high school. Tried and true old school exercises like plyometrics, weight lifting and running! Speed drills, intervals, etc.

    As far as nutrition. I am doing my best to stick to things with natural ingredients. Old fashioned is the way to go, except maybe for all the butter and lard they used to use when my Great Grandma was growing up...
  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!
  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,519 Member
    www.bodyrecomposition.com

    http://alanaragon.com/aarr.html
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!
    That would be YOU, bro!
  • adjones5
    adjones5 Posts: 938 Member
    I use scholarly peer reviewed academic journals. I have access to them since I am student but you can also pay to access them if you are not.
  • april_beth
    april_beth Posts: 616 Member
    Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!

    umm....just caue he's jacked and yoked (huh) doesnt mean he did it the healthy way. ask how his d*ck has been treating him and then perhaps listen...or not.
  • AddA2UDE
    AddA2UDE Posts: 382

    LOL! Yep, this ^^^^^

    Who would you rather learn from? Skinny people trying to make a buck off of you or the true-blue people on here who have actually done what you are trying to do and don't stand to profit financially from helping you? Not hard to do that math. You don't have to re-invent the wheel with the info you get on here from those who have already done it.
  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
    www.bodyrecomposition.com

    http://alanaragon.com/aarr.html

    Word.
  • vettle
    vettle Posts: 621 Member
    Fat2Fit Radio. Google it. They have been the only thing that has given me real, accurate and myth busted information.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    bump
  • runs4zen
    runs4zen Posts: 769 Member
    Great question.

    Frankly, I listen to my weight loss doc--which is not an option for everyone, however, you could certainly start with a visit to the GP and ask for a referral to a nutritionist. The mayo clinic site it good too.

    Here's what I don't do, and which you seem to have caught a clue about: I don't ask for or listen to nutritional advice from other folks who aren't experts in nutrition and/or whose advice is in direct conflict with something my doctor told me or which I know to be nutritionally unsound

    I also don't give specific advice on nutrition because...I'm not an expert and don't know the nuances of any one individual's needs. Knowing what's right for me is not knowing what is right for someone else so I keep that in mind when talking about nutrition!
  • Barneystinson
    Barneystinson Posts: 1,357 Member
    www.bodyrecomposition.com

    http://alanaragon.com/aarr.html

    +1 for Alan Aragon.
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!
    umm....just caue he's jacked and yoked (huh) doesnt mean he did it the healthy way. ask how his d*ck has been treating him and then perhaps listen...or not.
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  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    Go to the gym and find the most Jacked,yoked, ripped,muscular, shredded, bro there and listen to everything he says because it works!

    Brofessor Scott never lies.
  • 2live4ever79
    2live4ever79 Posts: 79 Member
    bump
  • Q9S7
    Q9S7 Posts: 74 Member
    www.bodyrecomposition.com

    http://alanaragon.com/aarr.html

    These are excellent sources
  • amycal
    amycal Posts: 646 Member
    One thing to keep in mind is that people's bodies are different and what works for one person may not work for someone else. My daughter is very thin and muscular and doesn't eat meat but I find when I eat a lot of protein from meat and cut back on the carbs that I lose weight fast. However I am 30 years older, have had two kids and have been overweight. She has always been thin and fit.

    Some people are dairy intolerant, gluten intolerant which can lead to weight gain and/or other problems but a lot of conventional research shows that low fat dairy and whole grains help with weight loss.

    I think there are many basic guidelines that work well, but you also have to experiment a bit and see what works for you.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    The Mayo Clinic is one of my favorite sources too. But my very favorite is the Harvard School of Public Health.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid/
  • MercenaryNoetic26
    MercenaryNoetic26 Posts: 2,747 Member
    Trial and error. Give what you believe in a chance and if it fails, never turn back.
  • tidmutt
    tidmutt Posts: 317
    LOL! Yep, this ^^^^^

    Who would you rather learn from? Skinny people trying to make a buck off of you or the true-blue people on here who have actually done what you are trying to do and don't stand to profit financially from helping you? Not hard to do that math. You don't have to re-invent the wheel with the info you get on here from those who have already done it.

    +1 to this... I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL Trying asking the dude who lost 100 lb, it's not to say he has everything right but he found something that worked for him. Might work for you too.

    I also agree with the poster who mentioned trial and error. Personally I've conducted an experiment on myself for the last 8 months or so tracking my intake and exercise, even stool type to try to determine what works for me. I started with a typical high carb low fat diet, tried that for 6 weeks then moved onto a low carb low fat, then low carb high fat and so on. I tried ketogenic for a few weeks, intermittent fasting also. You don't have to be quite as crazy as I have been but simply record your progress, food etc. and see what works.
  • tidmutt
    tidmutt Posts: 317
    Great question.

    Frankly, I listen to my weight loss doc--which is not an option for everyone, however, you could certainly start with a visit to the GP and ask for a referral to a nutritionist. The mayo clinic site it good too.

    Here's what I don't do, and which you seem to have caught a clue about: I don't ask for or listen to nutritional advice from other folks who aren't experts in nutrition and/or whose advice is in direct conflict with something my doctor told me or which I know to be nutritionally unsound

    I also don't give specific advice on nutrition because...I'm not an expert and don't know the nuances of any one individual's needs. Knowing what's right for me is not knowing what is right for someone else so I keep that in mind when talking about nutrition!

    I agree with some of your points but I don't share your faith in nutritionists and doctors. By all means have your doctor review your blood work etc. but many doctors don't know squat about nutrition. Nutritionists yes, a little better, but I've found plenty who are mired in dogma and just don't read the research. I've seen it mentioned that it can take 10 years for clinical research to reach doctors in the field and actually be applied, I'm not blaming them for being behind, but I also am extremely skeptical of relying on someone just because they have a few credentials.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL

    I saw a quote on here once that said "if you want to be thin, live like a thin person" (or something close to that). But if you've always been overweight you may not know how to live like a thin person. In which case, asking a thin person how they stay thin makes as much sense as asking another fat person how they lost weight. There is an equal chance that either answer will (or will not) work for you.
  • runs4zen
    runs4zen Posts: 769 Member
    I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL


    Using that sort of thinking...I should ask the next skinny crack addict how they lost weight and manage to keep it off? :laugh:
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I see some people saying they seek the advice of skinny people on how to lose weight. In what universe does that make sense? LOL


    Using that sort of thinking...I should ask the next skinny crack addict how they lost weight and manage to keep it off? :laugh:

    Would it make more sense if they were fat before they used crack to lose weight?
  • AnninStPaul
    AnninStPaul Posts: 1,372 Member
    Honestly, one of my best resources is just thinking back to the workouts I did on the track team in high school. Tried and true old school exercises like plyometrics, weight lifting and running! Speed drills, intervals, etc.

    As far as nutrition. I am doing my best to stick to things with natural ingredients. Old fashioned is the way to go, except maybe for all the butter and lard they used to use when my Great Grandma was growing up...

    mmm....butter....
  • Troll
    Troll Posts: 922 Member
    if i have to buy all your books/newsletters/dvds for the secret or your some super forum yahoo i dont listen. I agree with the previous posts:find someone that looks like you want to and ask how they got there.
  • shamr0ck
    shamr0ck Posts: 296 Member
    Great question.

    Frankly, I listen to my weight loss doc--which is not an option for everyone, however, you could certainly start with a visit to the GP and ask for a referral to a nutritionist. The mayo clinic site it good too.

    Here's what I don't do, and which you seem to have caught a clue about: I don't ask for or listen to nutritional advice from other folks who aren't experts in nutrition and/or whose advice is in direct conflict with something my doctor told me or which I know to be nutritionally unsound

    I also don't give specific advice on nutrition because...I'm not an expert and don't know the nuances of any one individual's needs. Knowing what's right for me is not knowing what is right for someone else so I keep that in mind when talking about nutrition!

    I agree with some of your points but I don't share your faith in nutritionists and doctors. By all means have your doctor review your blood work etc. but many doctors don't know squat about nutrition. Nutritionists yes, a little better, but I've found plenty who are mired in dogma and just don't read the research. I've seen it mentioned that it can take 10 years for clinical research to reach doctors in the field and actually be applied, I'm not blaming them for being behind, but I also am extremely skeptical of relying on someone just because they have a few credentials.

    Yes, this! My weight loss doc is a great surgeon, but when it comes to the nutritional aspect - not so much. When i hit a plateau a few months back and we reviewed what i was doing, he advised me to cut my calories to 800 a day. When i reminded him how much i work out, and told him i'd pass out eating that little, he told me to work out less. In what world does it make sense to work out less in order to be able to eat less? Not mine.
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