For the non-meat eaters...

MattGetsMad

That's awesome Raeyn! Were you shooting for a really low cholesterol or did it just happen?

raevynn

Dropping the cholesterol is a happy side effect of being vegan... drinking lots of water helps with that, too.

It isn't why I went vegan, but I am glad that I had gotten a blood test before I did.

daffodilsoup

That would be this past Tuesday when I shot a deer!!!!

This makes me sad

vaderandbill

That would be this past Tuesday when I shot a deer!!!!

This makes me sad

Sorry to sadden you (being sincere not sarcastic). But since I am a meat eater, it is a great way to fill my freezer full of lean protein for less than $1.

nukie19

If someone asks me, I generally say either that I'm a pescatarian or a vegetarian, although my eating habits are a little all over the place. Its just easier to have a 'box" to fit into than to explain to people exactly what I do and don't like to eat. For example, I'd love to give up fish, but since I don't eat cheese, I have a really hard time finding food when I go out to eat. (Never been a cheese eater, I just think its gross). And after watching Forks Over Knives, I've been really trying to cut down on any overt consumption of dairy (ie, ice cream or yogurt kinds of food), but I haven't completely cut it out - if you start really reading your nutrition labels, you will find dairy in tons of stuff that you never would have guessed.

And I changed my diet for my health, since I'm an ultramarathoner that eats healthy but I had high cholesterol until I changed to no meat except fish. So, calling me a liar is just a simple answer to the complex problem of finding food when other people feel the need to feed me. Just like its simpler to say I'm a vegetarian. :P

mcrowe1016

While I don't see the joy that some people do in hunting, I believe that it is a lot more ethical than buying factory farmed meat from the big stores.


IMO....

taso42

you can eat your boogers and that doesn't make you a cannibal....

CaptainGordo

That would be this past Tuesday when I shot a deer!!!!

This makes me sad

Sorry to sadden you (being sincere not sarcastic). But since I am a meat eater, it is a great way to fill my freezer full of lean protein for less than $1.

Well done, man. :drinker:

ErinRade

I am a long time strict vegetarian. It depends on why people choose not to eat meat, there are so many reasons: environment, health, inhumane treatment of animals, etc. I always find it interesting that people who eat meat are more concerned and critical with how i eat than i am myself. I have never really enjoyed explaining to people why, unless they are truly open to my opinion: i have found very few people who are. They always have some argument. My advice (if you really want to know why we do what we do) is to watch some of these documentaries: Forks Over Knives; Fat Sick and Nearly Dead, Food Matters, Food Inc........ There are also many books you can read, but i think most people would rather watch a less time consuming film.

For me personally i choose to eat the way i do for many reasons! these videos will help you understand them if you take the time to check them out They do not lecture, they just show you how being healthy can and will change your life!

IvoryParchment

While I don't see the joy that some people do in hunting, I believe that it is a lot more ethical than buying factory farmed meat from the big stores.

The major cause of death of deer around here is semitrailers. Short of reintroducing lions and wolves and letting them chase down deer (when they can't find any housepets in backyards), there's not much you can do in populated areas for natural population control.

leslielt

vegans don't eat meat or meat by-products. I think people get the two confused; I know I did until my vegetarian friend explained it to me.

vaderandbill

That would be this past Tuesday when I shot a deer!!!!

This makes me sad

Sorry to sadden you (being sincere not sarcastic). But since I am a meat eater, it is a great way to fill my freezer full of lean protein for less than $1.

Well done, man. :drinker:

Thank you. Tonight I got 68g protein in only 356 calories, 7g fat and 122mg sodium!!!

daffodilsoup

Sorry to sadden you (being sincere not sarcastic). But since I am a meat eater, it is a great way to fill my freezer full of lean protein for less than $1.

No need to be sorry, really (though I do appreciate it!) While personally, I don't support the killing of any animal for food, I would rather you hunt your own food than purchase it from a factory farm if you make the choice to eat meat. I guess the concept of killing an animal is just foreign to me, hehe.

lobbylobster

Firstly, an unfertilized egg is not life. That is like saying that when a woman ovulates, the egg is a person.
Secondly, as a vegetarian, I prefer when people hunt their own meat. My partner hunts. I can guarantee the deer that was shot suffered a heck of a lot less than an average beef cow.
I'm vegetarian for many reasons, I hated the taste and texture of meat, I hate the cruelty that occurs, and I want to minimize the impact I have on the environment.

veganbaum

That would be this past Tuesday when I shot a deer!!!!

This makes me sad

Sorry to sadden you (being sincere not sarcastic). But since I am a meat eater, it is a great way to fill my freezer full of lean protein for less than $1.

$1 to you, yes, but it doesn't take into account the value of the animal's life. But to answer your question - there is no one answer. People are vegetarians, lacto-ovo, pescetarian, whatever they call themselves, or vegan (and there's variety there, too), for numerous reasons, all very personal. So, you'd have to ask each individual, really.

CaptainGordo

Sorry to sadden you (being sincere not sarcastic). But since I am a meat eater, it is a great way to fill my freezer full of lean protein for less than $1.

$1 to you, yes, but it doesn't take into account the value of the animal's life.

He did account for the value of the animal's life... :drinker:

Tonight I got 68g protein in only 356 calories, 7g fat and 122mg sodium!!!

Charlottejogs

I have many reasons for being vegetarian and would probably be vegan if I could give up cheese...however, it doesn't take much research about the food industry to remember one aspect. If I were not vegetarian I would be so disgusted by the meat industry overall that I would choose not to participate even for that reason alone. The only exception I think for this is buying locally grown happy meat which most do not do. In addition to the cruelty to animals the things that go on where the animals start through the journey to the grocery store shelf is rather horrifying overall. Not that they are the minority in this but historically their employees are not treated well either...I could go on and on about this but have a final exam tomorrow! I hope that sheds a little more light on the topic! I always like to hear when someone is trying to learn about an issue.

daffodilsoup

Firstly, an unfertilized egg is not life. That is like saying that when a woman ovulates, the egg is a person.
Secondly, as a vegetarian, I prefer when people hunt their own meat. My partner hunts. I can guarantee the deer that was shot suffered a heck of a lot less than an average beef cow.
I'm vegetarian for many reasons, I hated the taste and texture of meat, I hate the cruelty that occurs, and I want to minimize the impact I have on the environment.

Generally, some people choose not to include eggs because a) it is wrong to exploit animals, and b) it is more for the chicken than for the egg. Once people do a little research about the lives of egg-laying hens (or male chicks born in the egg industry), it becomes clear that just because the hen "isn't killed" for her eggs doesn't mean that it's an industry that deserves support.

While I prefer (ugh, I hate the use of the word prefer here, I hate both) hunting to factory farms, I still don't believe any human has the right to take the life of another sentient being simply for a few moments of gustatory pleasure. Sure they "suffer" less than an animal raised in a factory farm, but does that really justify it? Would that justify it if it happened to you?

I have many reasons for being vegetarian and would probably be vegan if I could give up cheese

www.daiyafoods.com

No excuses now

Edited to Add: "Happy Meat" is an oxymoron.

woou

I don't get this whole "why is it okay?" ._. Like we have to ask for permission to eat certain things.

Boom roasted! :drinker:

vaderandbill

I don't get this whole "why is it okay?" ._. Like we have to ask for permission to eat certain things.

That is just playing on the words I used. I was simply looking to be more educated on the question of eggs vs. chicken

vaderandbill

While I prefer (ugh, I hate the use of the word prefer here, I hate both) hunting to factory farms, I still don't believe any human has the right to take the life of another sentient being simply for a few moments of gustatory pleasure. Sure they "suffer" less than an animal raised in a factory farm, but does that really justify it? Would that justify it if it happened to you?

It would suck if it happened to me...but if some creature wanted to shoot me in the woods then I wouldn't go in the woods. Also, it is not as if I kill an animal, grunt, pat myself on the back and leave it there...I use as much of the animal as possible.

daffodilsoup

It would suck if it happened to me...but if some creature wanted to shoot me in the woods then I wouldn't go in the woods. Also, it is not as if I kill an animal, grunt, pat myself on the back and leave it there...I use as much of the animal as possible.

Not trying to turn this into a debate or anything, but how exactly would an animal "not go into the woods"? They live there, so really it would be more like you not going into your own home.

Also, I understand that you use as much of the animal as possible, but I feel like that is a poor justification since there's no real need for killing the animal in the first place.

CaptainGordo

Also, I understand that you use as much of the animal as possible, but I feel like that is a poor justification since there's no real need for killing the animal in the first place.

Nor is there a real need for you to only eat plants. Dude, get over it. To each his own.

daffodilsoup

Nor is there a real need for you to only eat plants. Dude, get over it. To each his own.

The reason is to get all my macros without promoting the unnecessary suffering of other sentient creatures, not to mention the environmental impact. Besides, what's wrong with adult discussion?

RonSwanson66

If we weren't meant to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?

daffodilsoup

If we weren't meant to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?

Har har, never heard that one before!

Veganniee

If we weren't meant to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?

People are made of meat too

lurelw

I initially stopped eating meat because it was too expensive. Now the thought of eating it just turns me off 95% of the time. I would just rather get my protein from eggs, Greek yogurt, beans, quinoa, etc.
I still eat eggs because they just seem healthier to me (I usually poach just the whites), I use them a lot with baking, and I just enjoy them.

RonSwanson66

If we weren't meant to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?

People are made of meat too

Eat me

alanabancroft

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