diet soda or no diet soda
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I drink Coke Zero but only about 3 or 4 times a week...Hasn't stopped my weight loss...Sometimes I just need a fizzy drink....
Me too ^^^^ I love Coke zero...along with the fizzy-ness and it doesn't effect my loss either. It has no nutritional value but it also has "zero" everything...so why not? Drink on :O)0 -
No soda, period. That is my recommendation. I drink water and tea typically with an occasional cup of juice. I lose a considerable amount more when not drinking soda. Also, it's just not good for your overall health. If being healthy is the goal, I would attempt to eliminate soda.
Although, I do not think it hurts to have one on special occasions if you enjoy soda that much.0 -
"Being healthy" is more related to NOT being obese/overweight, sedentary, smoking, environment and having good genetics.No soda, period. That is my recommendation. I drink water and tea typically with an occasional cup of juice. I lose a considerable amount more when not drinking soda. Also, it's just not good for your overall health. If being healthy is the goal, I would attempt to eliminate soda.
Although, I do not think it hurts to have one on special occasions if you enjoy soda that much.
You can eat "healthy" and be obese/overweight, sedentary, smoke, live in a bad environment and have bad genetics.
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your "scientific" source, dr. harriet hall is nothing more than an old retired air force surgeon (the 1st woman to be that incidentally, but still a government employee her entire career) who received her medical education back in the dark ages and now spends her time being an internet media *kitten* blogging against everything that alternative medicine or clean eating has to offer. she is NOT a scientist, she has NEVER published one peer reviewed scientific paper herself and she is adored by those who love the fact that she can dazzle them with a few turns of terminology over their head, as the letters MD after her name and throws in a few links to support her view (not hard in this day and age- we can all find hundreds of links to back WHATEVER our view is on anything- simple logic works better sometimes) in her blogs attempting to pick apart anything outside of her extremely dated knowledge base. she is a favorite among certain groups of people because she writes blank checks to co-sign their bullsh*t and they get to quote her so nicely.Of course I've already posted a SCIENTIFIC backed article that disputes what you're saying. And LOL, how the hell do you think they make NATURAL supplements? Do you think eating WHITE WILLOW BARK is better than ASPIRIN for your heart since ASPIRIN is man made?
Very weak argument here.
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can you honestly sit there and look at your McRib (from another thread) and diet coke lunch and think it is good for you?
there IS a difference between looking healthy and actually being healthy.
diet coke ingredients;
(from cola-cola's web site)
Carbonated Water,
Caramel Color,(caramel E150d)
Natural Flavors,
Phosphoric Acid,
Potassium Benzoate (to protect taste),
Sucralose,
Acesulfame Potassium,
Caffeine,
Citric Acid
and the McRib?
McRib ingredients list:
(from McDonald's web site)
McRib ®†:
McRib Pork Patty, McRib Bun, McRib Sauce, Pickle Slices, Slivered Onions
McRib Pork Patty:
Pork, water, salt, dextrose, preservatives (BHA, propyl gallate, citric acid)
McRib Bun:
Enriched flour (bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, yeast, high fructose corn syrup, contains 2% or less of the following: salt, corn meal, wheat gluten, soybean oil, partially hydrogenated soybean and/or cottonseed oils, dextrose, sugar, malted barley flour, cultured wheat flour, calcium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, soy flour, dough conditioners (sodium stearoyl lactylate, datem, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, mono- and diglycerides, ethoxylated mono- and diglycerides, monocalcium phosphate, enzymes, guar gum, calcium peroxide), calcium propionate (preservative), soy lecithin.
McRib Sauce:
Water, high fructose corn syrup, tomato paste, distilled vinegar, molasses, natural smoke flavor (plant source), food starch-modified, salt, sugar, spices, soybean oil, xanthan gum, onion powder, garlic powder, chili pepper, sodium benzoate (preservative), caramel color, beet powder
i like my foods and drinks to have one or two ingredients not a long list of highly questionable man-made artificial ones with controversial backgrounds. a truly healthy eater does not have to defend what they are consuming.there is no Great Hummus Debate that gives you tons of google hits with titles like "hummus kills" "hummus -so very bad for you", lol. folks look at what you eat and drink- if it doesn't feel right then google it. if there are too many negative links associated w/ that product or ingredient then perhaps you do not want to be eating/drinking that product. what i'm saying is do your own research, use your own brain and don't take anyone's word that backs up simply what you want them to back up. like if i told you that just one little line of cocaine a day will produce great weight loss and threw in a few links about how it is plant based and how it has been used for centuries blah blah- would you believe me or would your logic step in and dismiss that? my logic tells me that diet soda is not a product that anyone in search of true healthy living should be consuming.
@ ninerbuff- how can you claim to have studied nutrition for 20 years like your sig line claims and support these products here? diet sodas? McDonald's?
isn't this site called MyFitnessPal- doesn't the word 'fitness' imply health? doesn't the word health imply consuming foods that are actually good for your body not harming it? you are very active on this site and i have no doubt that you are a great trainer in the gym w/ plenty of knowledge..... but nutritional expert? whoa! i have to seriously challenge that in your sig line if (and i'm fairly new to this site) i keep finding you supporting products that are the absolute antithesis of good nutritional eating. sorry.
sure you've heard the medical saying "do no harm" and i'm sure you have a following of people here. take a minute to think about that before firing off an angry reply. i'm sorry if it seems like i'm attacking you but you stepped into the line of fire with your fervent support of products that anyone's simple logic tells them are not healthy.
nobody eats perfectly, everyone has at least one guilty pleasure, but it is crucial for everyone to at least admit to yourselves that what you are consuming isn't healthy. i far more respect someone that says "yeah i drink a diet soda a day- i know it isn't good, but i really really like it. maybe when i hit my goal weight i'll give it up" than someone that says they drink it and there ain't a damn thing wrong w/ that and i have links to "prove" it. . see the difference?0 -
I hate the taste of diet soda. I wouldn't worry about how "bad" it is for you, but about how "good" it isnt. You're basically satisfying (if you can call it that) a craving that will have little to no positive effect on your body. Why not replace that with something that can actually do you some good?
If you MUST drink diet soda to avoid drinking regular soda, then that's one thing.0 -
Ive stoped drinking pop and lost 78 pounds0
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Nobody has ever said diet sodas and McRibs are particularly healthy (although McRibs are a decent protein source, but that's. It the point.) What other people are saying, like ninerbuff, is that occasionally eating those things won't hurt you. Just because something isnt a good source of nutrition doesn't mean eating it once in a while is going to hurt you. After all, technically, water has zero nutritional value, and can be full of all kinds of parasites and bacteria that can be deadly to human beings. Also, I know someone allergic to chickpeas, hummus would kill them. Life isn't black and white, and food isn't as simple as "good," or "bad."0
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Love the guilt trip post (long assed one too).
Niner isn't advocating LIVING on these foods. Having them once in awhile isn't bad.
You use TOOTHPASTE right? It's actually poison in large armounts. But we accidently injest small amounts of it everyday/0 -
I never liked the taste of diet sodas. I drank the real thing. When I started eating healthy, I cut them out altogether. I've not had one in over six months. Water and tea for me.
This.0 -
NONE!
Their poison. Drink ice water with a dash of lime or lemon juice.0 -
I gave up drinking diet (only, never liked sugar pop) sodas in April.... I was hooked on Diet Mt Dew, and the sodium was giving me high blood pressure (along with other things)....
I drink one for a treat now and again, but I am a bottled water girl now..
The difference in mood for me is notable.. (a better one)0 -
I think that diet sodas are ok, i have 2-3 a week, i like taste of them but sometimes they make me feel bloated
i think its still better than normal one because it has no calories 
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So I want to hear your thoughts on diet drinks. I hear they are horrible for you and actually can cause you to gain weight. Yet, I don't smoke or anything and feel that I should be allowed a vice. I don't go overboard with them, maybe 3 or 4 a week, but if they are really sabotaging my efforts then I need to cut them out.
Everything in moderation. They are zero calories so it would be impossible for them, ALONE, to cause weight gain.0 -
If you're only having them 3-4 times a week, I don't see a problem. If you can drink water instead of diet soda it is a lot better though. As long as you're not drinking 3-4 a day, I think it is ok to indulge a little in what we like.0
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If you read the article, studies weren't only done by Hall. I also quoted EFSA and Ramazzini Foundation. Are they unreliable too?your "scientific" source, dr. harriet hall is nothing more than an old retired air force surgeon (the 1st woman to be that incidentally, but still a government employee her entire career) who received her medical education back in the dark ages and now spends her time being an internet media *kitten* blogging against everything that alternative medicine or clean eating has to offer. she is NOT a scientist, she has NEVER published one peer reviewed scientific paper herself and she is adored by those who love the fact that she can dazzle them with a few turns of terminology over their head, as the letters MD after her name and throws in a few links to support her view (not hard in this day and age- we can all find hundreds of links to back WHATEVER our view is on anything- simple logic works better sometimes) in her blogs attempting to pick apart anything outside of her extremely dated knowledge base. she is a favorite among certain groups of people because she writes blank checks to co-sign their bullsh*t and they get to quote her so nicely.
Yes. I make a smiley face when I eat them and drink them. Feel good place.can you honestly sit there and look at your McRib (from another thread) and diet coke lunch and think it is good for you?
Only if you're not healthy.there IS a difference between looking healthy and actually being healthy.
I've done my research. I've also lived my research. 40+ years of eating Mcdonald's and no issues. Not one. Same with diet soda. If your choice is to live as "healthy" as possible and eat nothing but natural foods, then have at it. I eat what I want in moderation (especially the high saturated fatty foods of my culture) and enjoy it. Health to me is about living a life with fun and happiness, not eating natural whole foods for the rest of my life. Unhappiness isn't being healthy.i like my foods and drinks to have one or two ingredients not a long list of highly questionable man-made artificial ones with controversial backgrounds. a truly healthy eater does not have to defend what they are consuming.there is no Great Hummus Debate that gives you tons of google hits with titles like "hummus kills" "hummus -so very bad for you", lol. folks look at what you eat and drink- if it doesn't feel right then google it. if there are too many negative links associated w/ that product or ingredient then perhaps you do not want to be eating/drinking that product. what i'm saying is do your own research, use your own brain and don't take anyone's word that backs up simply what you want them to back up. like if i told you that just one little line of cocaine a day will produce great weight loss and threw in a few links about how it is plant based and how it has been used for centuries blah blah- would you believe me or would your logic step in and dismiss that? my logic tells me that diet soda is not a product that anyone in search of true healthy living should be consuming.
I've made no claims to being a nutritional expert. In fact I've even stated that most trainers aren't qualified to teach it. You seem to think that I'm an expert when no such claims have been made. I just post scientific information to back claims I make.how can you claim to have studied nutrition for 20 years like your sig line claims and support these products here? diet sodas? McDonald's?
isn't this site called MyFitnessPal- doesn't the word 'fitness' imply health? doesn't the word health imply consuming foods that are actually good for your body not harming it? you are very active on this site and i have no doubt that you are a great trainer in the gym w/ plenty of knowledge..... but nutritional expert? whoa! i have to seriously challenge that in your sig line if (and i'm fairly new to this site) i keep finding you supporting products that are the absolute antithesis of good nutritional eating. sorry.
Where in this thread, or any thread about Mcdonald's and diet soda have I claimed they are healthy? NONE. You are implying that's what I've said when it's not true. I've stated over and over and over and over again, get in your essentials (protein, carbs, fats) vitamins and minerals, water, etc. and anything else you eat should be fine as long as you stay in calorie limits.sure you've heard the medical saying "do no harm" and i'm sure you have a following of people here. take a minute to think about that before firing off an angry reply. i'm sorry if it seems like i'm attacking you but you stepped into the line of fire with your fervent support of products that anyone's simple logic tells them are not healthy.
nobody eats perfectly, everyone has at least one guilty pleasure, but it is crucial for everyone to at least admit to yourselves that what you are consuming isn't healthy. i far more respect someone that says "yeah i drink a diet soda a day- i know it isn't good, but i really really like it. maybe when i hit my goal weight i'll give it up" than someone that says they drink it and there ain't a damn thing wrong w/ that and i have links to "prove" it. . see the difference?
Don't need the "health police" to tell people they know what's bad for them. They know.
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I doubt it will cause weight gain but yes the chemicals are probably pretty bad for you. I drink anywhere from 9-15 glasses of water a day but I also drink any where from 1-2 liters of Fresca a day. There's nothing but carbonation and a little sidium in it and it doesn;'t taste diet. Just don't be fooled by the stuff in central america because it is loaded with sugar and caffiene.0
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If you are posting this because you are worried about it because you are feeling some side effects from the diet soda, then try to go without it. If you are posting because you personally believe that artificial sweeteners are unhealthy, then stop drinking it. I don't like the way it tastes and I don't like the way I feel when I drink it. I don't think everyone has the same reaction I do to it. There are much worse things you could be drinking and if it is something that makes you happy, keep doing it.0
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I disagree Bobby. They can help with weight loss if you need an occasional "fix".NONE!
Their poison. Drink ice water with a dash of lime or lemon juice.
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Everything in moderation. They are zero calories so it would be impossible for them, ALONE, to cause weight gain.
Yes, everything in moderation. Except child porn. None of that, thanks.0 -
I drink diet soda, but have cut down considerably and have been drinking more water. I found that before I was drinking almost all diet soda and very little water. A step in the right direction.
All this debate makes me think of my sister-in-law. She will absolutely not touch diet sodas and drinks the full sugared ones to excess. She is overweight. She smokes like a chimney.
I'll point out that aspartame is indeed one of the most tested food additives there is. It can be a useful tool in weight loss. I've heard the benefits can outweigh the risks when used in weight loss. And while she states that studies show that it causes cancer in lab rats, I point out we KNOW without a doubt that cigarette smoking causes cancer...
She refuses to budge because it's poison. (And has another cigarette.)
To each their own. I tend to lean to the everything in moderation camp. If you're one that forgoes it completely ? High five and more power to ya! : )0
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