DEADLIFTS

Ambrogio1

Any power gusy out there?

When I deadlift I use the rack on the outside. So I grab from rack, satep back 1 to 2 steps and then start from up top and go.
I feel this is not right, I am unsure where I developed this habit but I did.

question is
Is this wrong?
Is this right?

I am debating about switching it up and pulling from the ground.

Off rack I was able to pull 395 but from ground just 365

OOOOFA

Barneystinson

There's not really a "right" or "wrong" answer but you're actually describing two different deadlifts - rack (starting upward from the rack position) and standard barbell deadlift (from the ground). A rack DL will allow a higher weight as you're not lifting the full "distance" from the ground.

lakersfan4life

i personally do the standard deadlift, lifting from the ground.

i did 305 the other day. woop!

Ambrogio1

I take off rack, duck walk back like a dummy(1 step back) and then do a full deadlift. I dont do inside cage with bars or anything

HollyMac20

I go standard DL from the ground. It seems classic and straight forward. Either you can pick it up, or not.

Lyadeia

I take off rack, duck walk back like a dummy(1 step back) and then do a full deadlift. I dont do inside cage with bars or anything

This is basically what I do. I load up the weight while the bar is on the lowest point of the rack, pick it up and hold the bar at my waist, walk back a couple of steps...

Then I put it down on the ground. I actually start deadlifting after I put the bar on the ground, but I don't lower it to the ground all the way each time...if that makes sense? My lower back tends to curl under if I go all the way down because I have long legs for most people might height, no matter how heavy or light the weight is. I prefer sumo deadlifts as it gets more hammies and less lower back while working both, but I lower *almost* to the ground without touching it until that last rep when I am putting the weight down. Then after my last set, I will lift it up and set it on the rack to remove the plates.

I guess as long as you are doing your deadlifts with good form, it shouldn't matter too much how you are starting out.

blakeman187

i personally do the standard deadlift, lifting from the ground.

^^This^^

MaggieMay131

I also do the standard DL from the ground. I'd never even heard of doing one from a rack O.o

koosdel

i personally do the standard deadlift, lifting from the ground.

^^This^^

Much easier to control form that way.

rileysowner

I can see doing it from the rack and walking with it being a good way to injure yourself if you lose concentration for a moment or even stumble a little. I have always done them from the ground.

Jeff92se

Loading/unloading weights from a deadlift bar on the ground. Put a little 2.5lb weight under the 1st weight. so all the other weights are off the ground. They all slip off easy.

Much better than loading and walking a fully loaded dead lift bar.

Huffdogg

1. One definitely should do them from the ground.
2. One ought to set the weight all the way down between reps and give your body a bit of a rest between reps, even if it's just a second.

chrisdavey

I can't imagine waddle walking with my 1rm at all! Definitely seems like an injury waiting to happen.

MLeigh18

Any power gusy out there?

OOOOFA

i resent this. Just because i'm female doesn't mean I can't kick your *kitten* with some weights. >: / I'm bitter about men thinking women are inferior in the weight room.

rileysowner

Any power gusy out there?

OOOOFA

i resent this. Just because i'm female doesn't mean I can't kick your *kitten* with some weights. >: / I'm bitter about men thinking women are inferior in the weight room.

Or just realize "guys" is a generic term.

Lyadeia

I can't imagine waddle walking with my 1rm at all! Definitely seems like an injury waiting to happen.

I don't know about the others, but I personally wasn't talking about my 1 RM. I do 5 sets of 5 with the same weight on heavy days and 3 sets of 8 with moderate weight on the second lower body day of the week. It's really no different than putting your squat weight on your traps, then walking backward a couple of steps to clear the rack pins, then setting your feet, etc. and then squatting and "waddle walking" back to rack the bar again.

Lyadeia

Any power gusy out there?

OOOOFA

i resent this. Just because i'm female doesn't mean I can't kick your *kitten* with some weights. >: / I'm bitter about men thinking women are inferior in the weight room.

I don't get how the OP thought that at all??? YOU assumed that, therefore it's on YOUR mind...not anyone else's who answered the thread.

munkeyfunk

I think you're doing a rack pull, lol a deadlift starts "dead" from the ground. You'll be able to lift more from the rack though because there's a shorter range of motion.

Ambrogio1

I think I started this back in the day when I was wet behind the ears for convenience factor when loading the weight. Its normal now for me. But watching vids and what not you can see what the advantages are when you start "dead". Expanding the abs, flexing the back, take your huge breath in and working the form. I have plan sof a 500 lb deadlift so now chaning I feel is a set back. But you know what, I gotta man up and do it right. I am going to ditch the load up rack lift and walk backwards crap. I was struggling with some back issues too so the dead pull from ground was difficult. I feel I am putting that little injury/setback behind me.

Mleigh. If you can match just 1 of the 5 major lifts with me then I will switch my title! BRING IT
Kdding of course. I just meant guys like the others said. I see some bad *kitten* ladies in the gym. I hope I didn't just stick my foot in my mouth cause that avatar looks leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegit!

lol

Nice post guys/gals. Thanks

lakersfan4life

im looking into getting straps to use for deadlifts.

any advice or tips on using them and any particular style brand or are they all the same?

lakersfan4life

bumpity bump

Huffdogg

if you don't NEED straps, don't use them. They detract from some of the benefits you get from the lift. You oughtn't need straps until you are pulling well over 300. If you're there, and need them...well, I can't help you lol. I'm not there yet. If you can't hold the bar with a regular overhand grip, try an alternating grip before you go to straps.

dane11235813

im looking into getting straps to use for deadlifts.

any advice or tips on using them and any particular style brand or are they all the same?

use chalk instead

tikanique

I lift off the ground as well. there is too much traffic around the stands and there isn't a clear view of the mirror there (to check form) so I have to move the bar to another part of the floor.

Ambrogio1

im looking into getting straps to use for deadlifts.

any advice or tips on using them and any particular style brand or are they all the same?

I just use the standard white cloth wrist wraps you can get at ****s or any other sporting store.
I hear alot of ppl say that its cheating, well I use to agree with that and maybe I do today but I don't care. Whats the big deal?
I did 315 for 10 the other day and 365 for 2. Trying to get to 4 plates which is 405. Am I weak for using wrist wraps? O well
My swollen back after the seat of 315 didn't agree!!!
Keep pushing everyone!

PS
I have abandoned pullling off the rack and have been pulling from the floor!
Thanks for everyone who posted on here.

Ambrogio1

im looking into getting straps to use for deadlifts.

any advice or tips on using them and any particular style brand or are they all the same?

use chalk instead

OMG chalk is awesome. Somoene left by rack one day and I was amazed how it just sticks in your hands!
lil Messy but no doubt is an awesome tool
I use both! double cheater!

Ipster

http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/how-to-set-up-to-deadlift-properly/

Here is a great video by one of the top trainers out there.

Ambrogio1

great post

thanks

kingkong123

I went over/under grip after my grip started to fail me on higher rep sets and 1RM. The over/under is starting to fail me as I use higher weights. Getting 8-10 reps is a struggle.

I was trying to avoid getting straps, but several articles I've read say all the olympic lifters train with them. Your grip muscles get tired much quicker than the muscles needed for deadlifts....thus, straps are useful for training. I'll be picking up a pair on the way to the gym today.

Ambrogio1

I went over/under grip after my grip started to fail me on higher rep sets and 1RM. The over/under is starting to fail me as I use higher weights. Getting 8-10 reps is a struggle.

I was trying to avoid getting straps, but several articles I've read say all the olympic lifters train with them. Your grip muscles get tired much quicker than the muscles needed for deadlifts....thus, straps are useful for training. I'll be picking up a pair on the way to the gym today.

There is no doubt in my mind that using straps is the way to go. The body part you are working is still getting crushed! BACK/TRAPS
When you start pulling in the ranges fo 350-450 and on on on
Your going to need something

dane11235813

I went over/under grip after my grip started to fail me on higher rep sets and 1RM. The over/under is starting to fail me as I use higher weights. Getting 8-10 reps is a struggle.

I was trying to avoid getting straps, but several articles I've read say all the olympic lifters train with them. Your grip muscles get tired much quicker than the muscles needed for deadlifts....thus, straps are useful for training. I'll be picking up a pair on the way to the gym today.

There is no doubt in my mind that using straps is the way to go. The body part you are working is still getting crushed! BACK/TRAPS
When you start pulling in the ranges fo 350-450 and on on on
Your going to need something

i'm going to disagree
if your one rep max is 450 lbs then you should be strong enough to hold onto the bar for the time needed to complete the rep without using straps.