Kitty advice, please

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  • Since it will be an indoor cat, it won't need it's claws. I would de-claw the cat. You and the cat will be happier in the long run.
    Really? Happier how? Let's not talk about how it would feel to pull your fingernails out..
    I had my cat for 19 years, and he was indoor only...He had a scratching post that we taught him was his, no clawing the furniture.
    If your cat ever gets out accidently, and it DOES happen, he will need to defend himself if attacked.
    Please do not declaw your cat, that is not the answer.
  • ethompso0105
    ethompso0105 Posts: 418 Member
    I work in the pet care industry. There are positives and negatives to declawing.

    For some cats, it's no big deal--I dated a guy who had a declawed cat and Cobalt (the cat) was just fine. It was nice knowing that I wasn't going to get scratched when he batted at me.

    More often than not, however, declawing can cause arthritis later in life. While your cat may experience little to no pain due to the surgery, I would be sure to consider the consequences (both good and bad) for the cat's entire life.

    I've spoken with many "experts" in my 5+ years in the pet care industry that are on both sides of the argument. Personally, I would never declaw a cat knowing what I know now. That being said, I completely understand why people do it. Just as with any kind of surgery, you have to weigh the positives and negatives.

    There are TONS of ingenious products out there to help cats stop scratching (or that reduces the impact). I'm a dog person, so I don't know of many *specific* products, but I know they're out there! :)

    Good luck!
  • My dad is a vet and we have had declawed cats as long as I can remember. #1. Ask your vet what kind of surgery technique he uses. My dad just took out the claws and the cats never got soft paws. #2. Do the front ones only. If your cat ever gets outside and has to fight, they use their back claws, not their front ones. #3. You'll be so much happier that you did this, because you won't have to worry about "accidental clawing" either. Sometimes cats get scared and they will lash out. You'll be protecting yourself and your friends and family. #4. Do it while she/he is small. The longer you wait, the harder it is on them. Definitely do it before they realize they can climb the curtains - and they do!
  • MaximalLife
    MaximalLife Posts: 2,447 Member
    My husband surprised me with a new kitty for Christmas. I love this cat already. But my husband wants me to declaw her as we have very pricey furniture in the house. Now I realize declawing is very inhumane but I will kill this cat if it messes up my furniture. Can any of you cat owners offer me alternatives and do they really work? Ive heard about soft paws. Does anyone use them and more importantly do they work?

    PS. This cat will be an indoor cat only!
    Declaw that thing before you regret it.

    We have 2 cats, and they have no need of claws. I catch and kill anything they need.
  • puggleperson
    puggleperson Posts: 740 Member
    It's not just the claw that is removed people. Do your research. How dare you say it is inhumane and why would the OP just automatically jump to teh conclusion of declawing. There is no need when they can use a scratching post. Have some common sense!!!!!!! Man this pisses me off! Sorry agian .. END RANT
  • BodyRockerVT
    BodyRockerVT Posts: 323 Member
    PLEASE don't declaw. I could provide you with a link to what the surgery looks like but I won't unless you ask for it. It is NOT a pretty thing and it isn't taking off nails...it takes off the whole first joint...take the top of all your fingers off...that is what it is.

    Cats that are declawed also tend to have trouble with the litterbox because when the surgery is done it hurts to scratch around in the litterbox so they associate box with pain. It is not uncommon. Also, if you take away the claws a cat is left without it's first line of defense if it feels threatened and is more like to bite, and bite hard...

    Alternatives are clipping the nails every week or so. If you start them young they get used to it and it isn't hard at all. You can get proper clippers at a pet store for like $5 tops.

    You can use softpaws too but honestly clipping the nails is quicker and easier..and much more cost effective.

    Get a squirt bottle and fill it with water...if cat starts to scratch furniture spray with water...it won't take many times for them to realize couch = water...

    The important thing is to give the kitty a place it CAN scratch. Mine like the front door mat...I have no issue with that. They also have a cat house they can scratch...again, no issue with that.

    I have THREE cats one is about to turn 7, one is 5.5, and one is 5 months...none of them have EVER tried to scratch my furniture...not even once.
  • christinad95
    christinad95 Posts: 201 Member
    Training the cat to use a scratching post is very effective. How do you do that? The most effective training tool I have ever seen and used everytime is the squirt bottle. I have one of those cheap small bottles from wal-mart. You just adjust the nozzle to stream and keep it with you for about a week. Whenever you see kittly scratching on something that you don't want them scratching on, you squirt a shot of water at them. It doesn't take them long to connect what they are doing with the stream of water. If you see the kitty scratching in one specific area place the post in that area. Do this even if it means moving the post to several different areas. But remember to give a shot of water when the cat is scratching where you do not want him scratching. This method also works with training kitty to keep off or out of the Christmas tree and away from plugs, cables and chords.
  • soontobeskinnysara
    soontobeskinnysara Posts: 177 Member
    I have 2 indoor cats, and both have claws. I would never consider declawing them. It's inhumane, cruel, and painful. If you absolutely MUST declaw your cat, see if you can find a vet that will do the laser surgery instead of pulling the claws out.

    Pet stores have many items that you can put around your house to deter clawing and shredding. It's in the cats nature to claw and pull, and it can certainly be destructive, but that's what happens when you have pets!
  • iamstaceywood
    iamstaceywood Posts: 383 Member
    people are insane. i can't believe people who are so pet dumb and feel like they need to have pets. Insane.
  • First, there are several ways to train cats not to claw furniture, and many never do, regardless.

    Second, WHY would you get a pet whose instinct is to claw if you're that worried about your furniture????

    Declawing is painful and cruel. That's like getting a dog and saying, "I love it to death, but the barking must go."

    Second this.

    I third this- its really cruel and my cat is an indoor cat- we have trainned it not to stractch by using stractch posts.
    Cats repond to the word-NO very well and its ok to shout that if the cat is doing something wrong.
  • PlanetVelma
    PlanetVelma Posts: 1,223 Member
    I have had a variety of animals throughout my lifetime. You can train cats just like you train dogs.

    I personally wouldn't declaw the cat. If I was that attached to my furniture where I think I may "kill" the cat, I'd find the cat a new home.

    Pets will have accidents, it's inevitable.

    Are you going to freak out if the cat stops using the litter box because you didn't clean it one day? What are you going to do if the cat hurls up a fur ball?

    These are serious questions you and your significant other should have considered before even getting a pet.

    Moral of the story: Don't buy a pet as a gift.
  • First, there are several ways to train cats not to claw furniture, and many never do, regardless.

    Second, WHY would you get a pet whose instinct is to claw if you're that worried about your furniture????

    Declawing is painful and cruel. That's like getting a dog and saying, "I love it to death, but the barking must go."

    Give the kitten to someone who will appreciate it, before it gets older and can't be adopted, and then get yourself a goldfish! Just keep the bowl away from anything it might splash on.
  • aippolito1
    aippolito1 Posts: 4,894 Member
    Declaw the cat. Cats get very bitter. We trained our two cats growing up to scratch on the post, but if we went away for a couple days (even if they were watched), they would "get us back" by scratching up the doors, walls, the ends of my mom's island in the kitchen. It was bad. They never stopped and my parents got rid of them because they couldn't afford the $120 to declaw them.

    Cats only need claws if they're outside... they don't need to defend themselves in a home. Just declaw the thing. You'd be paying more to replace or fix your furniture than the $60 or so to declaw it.
  • My dad is a vet and we have had declawed cats as long as I can remember. #2. Do the front ones only. If your cat ever gets outside and has to fight, they use their back claws, not their front ones.
    REALLY? Tell that to my dog as my cat swats his nose if he pushes things .... :grumble:
  • jlewis2896
    jlewis2896 Posts: 763 Member
    Wow, did NOT realize this was such a hot topic!

    I am not against de-clawing cats, but I must say, I don't think it's necessary at all. If you train your cat to stay off your tables/countertops and give it a scratching post it should do fine and not damage your furniture. I've owned a few cats, none were declawed, and never had any problems. And in all honesty, I'm not a very responsible pet owner. Kinda lazy. If I can make it work, you can too.

    Good luck and enjoy your kitty!!
  • Ashalena
    Ashalena Posts: 162
    I feel the same way about it being inhumane to declaw BUT I have 2 cats that I did not declaw and my leather furniture was ruined. They clawed everything...the beds, the carpet, pillows, couches, etc. We bought new furniture and ended up having to declaw them. Even as adult cats, they were still clawing.

    If you're keeping them indoors, I say declaw.
  • Declawing is unnatural and inhumane. Don't adopt a pet if you're not prepared to handle the possible consequences.

    I'm in absolute agreement with kacee75. Pets are NOT gifts, anymore than you would present someone with a unexpected baby and say Merry Christmas.
  • I would do research on it first. Declawing the cat is the equivalent of removing your finger at the joint. It is very painful for them and I have read that some cats, the pain never really goes away.
    Invest in a claw cutter and trim your kitties claws once a week. Also, invest in a scratching post. We have done these things and have never had a problem with our cat clawing our furniture.
    It's the same concept as a dog, it's all about the training. Cats are just a little more difficult in this process and require a LOT of consistency.
  • LadyNeshoba
    LadyNeshoba Posts: 159 Member
    My cat is de-clawed. I had her front nails removed about two years ago at the same time I got her fixed.

    I was wary of behavior problems but got really lucky with her. Her only issue is that now she bites. Which I figure if she were to get out she could bite and use her back claws. But she only has one eye now so she definitely wont be escaping anytime soon.
  • jlewis2896
    jlewis2896 Posts: 763 Member
    people are insane. i can't believe people who are so pet dumb and feel like they need to have pets. Insane.

    I totally know what you mean!! That's like people who are socially inept and critical and still feel the need to post on message boards!!!!!
  • I wonder how you would .like it if someone came along and de-clawed your finger nails! how cruel and inhumane- i believe its actually illegal in my country and for the right reasons!!!! its sick please dont do it
  • Amber82479
    Amber82479 Posts: 629 Member
    I have two suggestions... First, if you want to declaw, use laser declaw. Instead of taking off the top of the toe like traditional declaw, the laser seals the nail bed to keep nails from growing. It's the same procedure used on humans when they consistently get ingrown nails. Or, try the caps that you can put over the cats nails. That one requires consistent maintenance, but if you're not interested in pursuing laser declaw, that will at least help... Best of luck!
  • Ashalena
    Ashalena Posts: 162
    Wow, did NOT realize this was such a hot topic!

    I am not against de-clawing cats, but I must say, I don't think it's necessary at all. If you train your cat to stay off your tables/countertops and give it a scratching post it should do fine and not damage your furniture. I've owned a few cats, none were declawed, and never had any problems. And in all honesty, I'm not a very responsible pet owner. Kinda lazy. If I can make it work, you can too.

    Good luck and enjoy your kitty!!

    I've tried to train my cats. How did you train yours? I've sprayed them with water when they clawed and use those sprays that are supposed to direct them from not doing it....nothing worked.

    I have toys and all kinds of different scratching posts. We even have one of those gigantic cat tree things.
  • I don't believe declawing cats is inhumane at all. It doesn't cut off the toe or pad. Cats also do not use the last bone to walk. Your cat doesn't feel any irregular pain outside of the normal post operation pain. Do you plan on fixing your cat? I'm sure that won't feel too well either. It isn't even necessary for your cats to have their paws shaven or for them to bleed. Laser removal works great and minimizes the recovery time. I have never heard of a cat that was traumatized by the loss of their claws. I have owned many cats and they have all had their front and back claws removed.

    Spaying and neutering are done so that there arne't thousands upon thousands of homeless cats and dogs running around fending for themselves (many of which will die very young because they are domestic and nt able to properly care for themselves in the wild). Not to mention that male cats that are not neutered get injured in fights and female cats who have even one litter of kittens have an increased chance of getting cancer.

    Declawing is done simply because people care more about asthetics than the animals in their care. No comparison. If you don't want your furniture clawed, don't get a cat. Or work with the cat to ensure the best outcome.

    How do you know what kind of pain the cat feels from being declawed? How would you like a bone from each toe removed, plus every nail?

    There is nothing inhumane about it. Declawing isn't only for aesthetics. There are many other reasons to declaw a cat. Also, contrary to popular belief, declawing a cat is not comparable to removing a bone or fingernail from the human body. I don't understand how you are coming to this conclusion.
  • puggleperson
    puggleperson Posts: 740 Member
    First, there are several ways to train cats not to claw furniture, and many never do, regardless.

    Second, WHY would you get a pet whose instinct is to claw if you're that worried about your furniture????

    Declawing is painful and cruel. That's like getting a dog and saying, "I love it to death, but the barking must go."

    Give the kitten to someone who will appreciate it, before it gets older and can't be adopted, and then get yourself a goldfish! Just keep the bowl away from anything it might splash on.


    Totally ^^^^^ I will take it! It will have a painless life!!
  • Dethea
    Dethea Posts: 247 Member
    I adopted a full grown cat from the humane society, and he has a terrible scratching problem. He has multiple scratching posts, but he still prefers my couch. (The couch is ruined, btw. Oh well.)

    I'm getting my cat declawed because he loves to jump on my back when I bend over, and he digs his claws in. Deep. Sometimes he will playfully attack my feet and take huge chunks of skin out. I can't really train him to not do that!

    The caps are annoying. Come off easily, and a pain to put on.

    The double sided tape is a good idea, but are you really going to tape up all of your furniture for the weeks it takes to teach your cat not to scratch?

    It has to be your choice whether or not you declaw your cat. Since it's a kitten, there's a small chance that it will do any "permanent" damage.
  • I'd go with the nail covers or training. When I first got my cat I didn't care about the claws, but my parents forced me to get him declawed because he was tearing up the doorframes from climbing up them and sliding back down in his hyperness (otherwise he'd only use his scratching post or my shoes >_> ). At the time I had no friends with cats, or anyone to give me adviced on these things. I wish I had been able to keep his claws (they declawed all four paws) because I am always afraid he'll get outside and then that's the end of him. :( He's mostly a scaredy cat so I'm not too worried, but that means if we ever get another cat he can't defend himself either if they fight.
  • peterson_jessica
    peterson_jessica Posts: 119 Member
    I'm a hugeee cat lover & even I would say go ahead and declaw her. The procedure is way less invasive than it used to be and your kitty should be back to normal in no time.
  • mmonconduit
    mmonconduit Posts: 51 Member
    If you have the patience it may be better to simply train your cat by spraying it with a spray bottle of water when it does claw the furniture.
  • Can you imagine what it would be like if you had an itch that you couldn't scratch? You know how irritating that is right? Well you have opposable thumbs so can pick something up and use that instead. A cat can't. It won't be able to groom itself at all. Cats are very clean and particular animals and this will stress it no end.
    Please, I beg you, if you value your furniture, give the cat to someone who will love it and if you really must have a pet, get a goldfish.

    Also, how are you going to deal with the cat fur on your precious furniture? Are you going to shave it bald?
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