DIETS????

kym_lewis08
kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
edited September 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
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  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
  • fishernd
    fishernd Posts: 140 Member
    Reduced Calorie using MFP. By far. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT do ATKINS! You will set yourself up for failure immediately. Trust me. I've tried it, and so has my sister.

    Good Luck!
  • kerrilucko
    kerrilucko Posts: 3,852 Member
    calorie counting combined with regular exercise. It's truly the only healthy, natural way to lose weight successfully. I never thought it was so simple... but silly me, it is! :drinker:
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
    Not sure I can help you with this as I no longer go on 'diets'. Most on MFP consider healthy eating as the way to go for long term sucess.

    MFP has Great tools to keep track of foods eaten and workouts. Diets come and go but most gain all the weight and more back.
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    My grandmother and I tried the Atkins when I was a little younger and I HATED it. I'm not a big grapefruit person to begin with (LOL) and that is ALL that diet contains.

    However, my mother went on the Carb diet about 4 years ago and lost 40 pounds by completely cutting carbs and walking for 20 minutes everynight.

    I envy her. :blushing:
  • kattiek
    kattiek Posts: 83
    I enjoy MFP I think it helps. I'm also a fan of Weight Watcher Points program. They have recommendations for the amount of fruit, vegetables, water, whole grains, and dairy intakes. It helps if you don't have a strong nutrition or portion control background. And I agree with fishernd...Please dear God, do NOT do Atkins. It's severely bad for your metabolism and long term health.
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member
    Reduced Calorie using MFP. By far. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT do ATKINS! You will set yourself up for failure immediately. Trust me. I've tried it, and so has my sister.

    Good Luck!

    Please don't bash Atkins, some of US are very successful at it and have COMMITTED to make the necessary LIFESTYLE CHANGES that Atkins promotes................


    Atkins is a good plan if it is DONE CORRECTLY, IT WORKS WONDERS............... You have to commit to changing the way you look at food and the way you eat FOR LIFE..............

    Atkins is not a DIET, it is a LIFESTYLE AND A WAY OF EATING.................
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member
    My grandmother and I tried the Atkins when I was a little younger and I HATED it. I'm not a big grapefruit person to begin with (LOL) and that is ALL that diet contains.

    However, my mother went on the Carb diet about 4 years ago and lost 40 pounds by completely cutting carbs and walking for 20 minutes everynight.

    I envy her. :blushing:

    If you were only eating grapefruits, you WERE NOT DOING ATKINS...................

    You ought to see the list of veggeis and fruits that I eat.................

    It knocks most people on this site off the chart.
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    I don't think she was trying to bash Atkins Lean. That was just her opinion. :flowerforyou:
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    Reduced Calorie using MFP. By far. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT do ATKINS! You will set yourself up for failure immediately. Trust me. I've tried it, and so has my sister.

    Good Luck!

    Please don't bash Atkins, some of US are very successful at it and have COMMITTED to make the necessary LIFESTYLE CHANGES that Atkins promotes................


    Atkins is a good plan if it is DONE CORRECTLY, IT WORKS WONDERS............... You have to commit to changing the way you look at food and the way you eat FOR LIFE..............

    Atkins is not a DIET, it is a LIFESTYLE AND A WAY OF EATING.................



    Also, I think it's WONDERFUL that you've done so well on it. :flowerforyou:
    I guess I just wasn't up for the Atkins commitment.
    Not enough will power :blushing:
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member
    I don't think she was trying to bash Atkins Lean. That was just her opinion. :flowerforyou:

    Most people on this site bash it.............

    Atkins is not something you can look at as "dieting"................It is a complete lifestyle change to going from eating processed foods to virtually NO processed foods and as much organic produce as you can afford.

    It does work. My husband is completely off blood pressure meds and I am nearly off my diabetes medications..............We are working the plan and doing it for life.
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    WOW!! That's great Lean. :smile:
  • kerrilucko
    kerrilucko Posts: 3,852 Member
    Reduced Calorie using MFP. By far. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT do ATKINS! You will set yourself up for failure immediately. Trust me. I've tried it, and so has my sister.

    Good Luck!

    Please don't bash Atkins, some of US are very successful at it and have COMMITTED to make the necessary LIFESTYLE CHANGES that Atkins promotes................


    Atkins is a good plan if it is DONE CORRECTLY, IT WORKS WONDERS............... You have to commit to changing the way you look at food and the way you eat FOR LIFE..............

    Atkins is not a DIET, it is a LIFESTYLE AND A WAY OF EATING.................

    but lets be fair, in the long run Atkins doesn't work for most people (not everyone) simply because it IS viewed as a diet. It is a different way of eating, very different, and most people can not or will not commit to that in the long term. It can produce fast results, but maintaining is very difficult as most people go back to another way of eating. If, like you, people are willing to make the permanent changes in their diets that atkins recommends then yes it can be successful. Also, just throwing this out there, I have read people talking about their diet plan (referring to it as atkins) and COMPLETELY not following the actual Atkins plan. Atkins isn't about completely eliminating all carbs, and it does not advocate the consumption of immense quantities of bacon :laugh:
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
    Not sure I can help you with this as I no longer go on 'diets'. Most on MFP consider healthy eating as the way to go for long term sucess.

    MFP has Great tools to keep track of foods eaten and workouts. Diets come and go but most gain all the weight and more back.

    My mother didnt look at is a "diet" either, FC.
    Maybe I need to learn from you guys and just call it learning healthier eating habits. :ohwell:
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
    Not sure I can help you with this as I no longer go on 'diets'. Most on MFP consider healthy eating as the way to go for long term sucess.

    MFP has Great tools to keep track of foods eaten and workouts. Diets come and go but most gain all the weight and more back.

    My mother didnt look at is a "diet" either, FC.
    Maybe I need to learn from you guys and just call it learning healthier eating habits. :ohwell:
    :flowerforyou:
  • TudorRose
    TudorRose Posts: 238 Member
    To be honest, I don't think it matters so long as your diet is balanced healthily and you can sustain it. Personally, I couldn't sustain Atkins, but from what I've read, the actual plan (not the idea most people have of it) is very healthy- just requires a LOT of willpower
  • Iceprincessk25
    Iceprincessk25 Posts: 1,888 Member
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
    Not sure I can help you with this as I no longer go on 'diets'. Most on MFP consider healthy eating as the way to go for long term sucess.

    MFP has Great tools to keep track of foods eaten and workouts. Diets come and go but most gain all the weight and more back.

    I think that is the hardest part about 'dieting' is realizing that this is how you eat from now on. It's not a diet. It's a lifestyle change. You don't have an End date where you look forward to binging on whatever you want to.

    Moderation is the key to everything....(except diet coke). :laugh: Exercise is KEY KEY KEY!!!

    This website is a lifesaver. I LOVE it!

    Good Luck to you!

    The bad thing about Atkins is that you lose a ton of weight in the begining and that looks very apealing to some. The problem is that once you're off it you gain it all back ASAP.

    My Ex's brother was on it for a while and his diet consisted of eggs & bacon for breakfast, lunchmeat for lunch, and a steak and salad for dinner. EVERYDAY!!!! I don't think I could handle that!
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member

    but lets be fair, in the long run Atkins doesn't work for most people (not everyone) simply because it IS viewed as a diet. It is a different way of eating, very different, and most people can not or will not commit to that in the long term. It can produce fast results, but maintaining is very difficult as most people go back to another way of eating. If, like you, people are willing to make the permanent changes in their diets that atkins recommends then yes it can be successful. Also, just throwing this out there, I have read people talking about their diet plan (referring to it as atkins) and COMPLETELY not following the actual Atkins plan. Atkins isn't about completely eliminating all carbs, and it does not advocate the consumption of immense quantities of bacon :laugh:

    I have been doing a lot of reading on this site and those that are into "clean" eating...........are basically doing Atkins in a nutshell.........Just not doing it in a structured way.........

    Atkins is all about getting rid of the processed junk and eating Whole, natural foods.

    I probably eat far more veggies in a days time than most people on this board eat in a week.

    Today, I have had spinach, lettuce, radishes, cucumber, tomato, green onion, avocado, carrots, red cabbage, mushrooms, celery, broccoli and cauliflower.................

    That is just today and not counting what I am gonig to have for dinner this evening.

    I have started buying non-processed bacon and deli meats from our Neighborhood Coop...........There are no preservatives or nitrates in these meats, so I buy small quantities so they don't spoil fast.


    And it would be safe to say that MFP will not work for the majority of people because they too have dieter's mentality..............

    There is NO plan whether it be low cal / low fat, calorie counting, low carb or some combination of plan is going to work unless the person is going to commit to eating the same way they did to lose the weight for the rest of their life.................
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    I agree that commitment is key. :flowerforyou:
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member

    I think that is the hardest part about 'dieting' is realizing that this is how you eat from now on. It's not a diet. It's a lifestyle change. You don't have an End date where you look forward to binging on whatever you want to.

    Moderation is the key to everything....(except diet coke). :laugh: Exercise is KEY KEY KEY!!!

    This website is a lifesaver. I LOVE it!

    Good Luck to you!

    The bad thing about Atkins is that you lose a ton of weight in the begining and that looks very apealing to some. The problem is that once you're off it you gain it all back ASAP.

    My Ex's brother was on it for a while and his diet consisted of eggs & bacon for breakfast, lunchmeat for lunch, and a steak and salad for dinner. EVERYDAY!!!! I don't think I could handle that!

    That is the thing with Atkins, you are not supposed to go off of it. If you do all 4 phases, it makes for a complete lifestyle change, free from processed foods...............

    Your ex's brother had a very boring menu plan and I would get bored of it really quick too.

    I eat so much stuff................

    I had a veggie and ham omelette for breakfast

    Lunch I had broccoli and cauliflower, chicken, cheese soup that I made from scratch last night for supper. Also had a salad along with it...........

    Afternoon Snack: Pistachios and plain, full fat yogurt with 1/2 cup strawberries

    Dinner tonight is Spinach, sausage and cheese bake. I will also have a salad with it.....I love salads.

    Bedtime snack: 1 cup frozen grapes and 1 ounce sharp cheddar cheese...........
  • mgullette
    mgullette Posts: 401 Member
    Let's be COMPLETELY fair and say that most plans work. People fail. Lack of willpower, lack of commitment, and lifestyles that go against the premise of the plan all contribute to failure or lack of results. There are THOUSANDS of plans out there, and honestly, most work. Yes, some require higher levels of commitment than others, or more discipline, but let's not falsely attribute failure to plans in general.
  • kerrilucko
    kerrilucko Posts: 3,852 Member

    but lets be fair, in the long run Atkins doesn't work for most people (not everyone) simply because it IS viewed as a diet. It is a different way of eating, very different, and most people can not or will not commit to that in the long term. It can produce fast results, but maintaining is very difficult as most people go back to another way of eating. If, like you, people are willing to make the permanent changes in their diets that atkins recommends then yes it can be successful. Also, just throwing this out there, I have read people talking about their diet plan (referring to it as atkins) and COMPLETELY not following the actual Atkins plan. Atkins isn't about completely eliminating all carbs, and it does not advocate the consumption of immense quantities of bacon :laugh:

    I have been doing a lot of reading on this site and those that are into "clean" eating...........are basically doing Atkins in a nutshell.........Just not doing it in a structured way.........

    Atkins is all about getting rid of the processed junk and eating Whole, natural foods.

    I probably eat far more veggies in a days time than most people on this board eat in a week.

    Today, I have had spinach, lettuce, radishes, cucumber, tomato, green onion, avocado, carrots, red cabbage, mushrooms, celery, broccoli and cauliflower.................

    That is just today and not counting what I am gonig to have for dinner this evening.

    I have started buying non-processed bacon and deli meats from our Neighborhood Coop...........There are no preservatives or nitrates in these meats, so I buy small quantities so they don't spoil fast.


    And it would be safe to say that MFP will not work for the majority of people because they too have dieter's mentality..............

    There is NO plan whether it be low cal / low fat, calorie counting, low carb or some combination of plan is going to work unless the person is going to commit to eating the same way they did to lose the weight for the rest of their life.................

    I agree completely. But Atkins (and clean eating) are difficult for many people for many reasons. I do very well counting calories and eating a balanced diet. But I could not handle going completely clean (for a few reasons really). Also isn't Atkins and clean eating done in CONJUNCTION with counting calories? I mean... you still do that right? track your calorie intake on MFP? I think so... anyway the counting part is what I advocate, where you get those calories from, well that different for everyone- some eat clean, some don't, some are vegetarian, some are vegan. But calorie counting, that is my key point :flowerforyou:
  • mgullette
    mgullette Posts: 401 Member

    but lets be fair, in the long run Atkins doesn't work for most people (not everyone) simply because it IS viewed as a diet. It is a different way of eating, very different, and most people can not or will not commit to that in the long term. It can produce fast results, but maintaining is very difficult as most people go back to another way of eating. If, like you, people are willing to make the permanent changes in their diets that atkins recommends then yes it can be successful. Also, just throwing this out there, I have read people talking about their diet plan (referring to it as atkins) and COMPLETELY not following the actual Atkins plan. Atkins isn't about completely eliminating all carbs, and it does not advocate the consumption of immense quantities of bacon :laugh:

    I have been doing a lot of reading on this site and those that are into "clean" eating...........are basically doing Atkins in a nutshell.........Just not doing it in a structured way.........



    I probably eat far more veggies in a days time than most people on this board eat in a week.

    Today, I have had spinach, lettuce, radishes, cucumber, tomato, green onion, avocado, carrots, red cabbage, mushrooms, celery, broccoli and cauliflower.................

    That is just today and not counting what I am gonig to have for dinner this evening.

    I have started buying non-processed bacon and deli meats from our Neighborhood Coop...........There are no preservatives or nitrates in these meats, so I buy small quantities so they don't spoil fast.


    And it would be safe to say that MFP will not work for the majority of people because they too have dieter's mentality..............

    There is NO plan whether it be low cal / low fat, calorie counting, low carb or some combination of plan is going to work unless the person is going to commit to eating the same way they did to lose the weight for the rest of their life.................

    I agree completely. But Atkins (and clean eating) are difficult for many people for many reasons. I do very well counting calories and eating a balanced diet. But I could not handle going completely clean (for a few reasons really). Also isn't Atkins and clean eating done in CONJUNCTION with counting calories? I mean... you still do that right? track your calorie intake on MFP? I think so... anyway the counting part is what I advocate, where you get those calories from, well that different for everyone- some eat clean, some don't, some are vegetarian, some are vegan. But calorie counting, that is my key point :flowerforyou:


    Yeah, I think that Atkins was a pre-clean eating thing anyway. It received bad press and coverage but honestly, it's healthy. Don't like red meat? Don't eat it. It's not like you have to.

    You aren't really into counting calories on Atkins, and once you start eating clean, you can pretty much listen to your body cues and know if you need to eat or not. I mean, not to say you can gorge yourself on tons of food just because it's clean, but honestly, that would be hard to do. There's only so much meat, veggies, and fresh fruit, etc that you can eat before you're full.

    :smile:
  • MyaPapaya75
    MyaPapaya75 Posts: 3,143 Member
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
    The lifestyle change diet
    reduced calories 1200-1400
    watching carbs and sodium and fat
    and excercise in challenging amounts
    water water water:drinker:
  • MyaPapaya75
    MyaPapaya75 Posts: 3,143 Member
    Let's be COMPLETELY fair and say that most plans work. People fail. Lack of willpower, lack of commitment, and lifestyles that go against the premise of the plan all contribute to failure or lack of results. There are THOUSANDS of plans out there, and honestly, most work. Yes, some require higher levels of commitment than others, or more discipline, but let's not falsely attribute failure to plans in general.

    Ditto Boss LOL:flowerforyou:
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    Growing up in an obese houshold I've seen my fair share of "diets", all with various outcomes. My question to ya'll is...

    Which diets have ya'll found to be the most efficient for you?
    The lifestyle change diet
    reduced calories 1200-1400
    watching carbs and sodium and fat
    and excercise in challenging amounts
    water water water:drinker:

    Thank you!! :flowerforyou:
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member

    but lets be fair, in the long run Atkins doesn't work for most people (not everyone) simply because it IS viewed as a diet. It is a different way of eating, very different, and most people can not or will not commit to that in the long term. It can produce fast results, but maintaining is very difficult as most people go back to another way of eating. If, like you, people are willing to make the permanent changes in their diets that atkins recommends then yes it can be successful. Also, just throwing this out there, I have read people talking about their diet plan (referring to it as atkins) and COMPLETELY not following the actual Atkins plan. Atkins isn't about completely eliminating all carbs, and it does not advocate the consumption of immense quantities of bacon :laugh:

    I have been doing a lot of reading on this site and those that are into "clean" eating...........are basically doing Atkins in a nutshell.........Just not doing it in a structured way.........



    I probably eat far more veggies in a days time than most people on this board eat in a week.

    Today, I have had spinach, lettuce, radishes, cucumber, tomato, green onion, avocado, carrots, red cabbage, mushrooms, celery, broccoli and cauliflower.................

    That is just today and not counting what I am gonig to have for dinner this evening.

    I have started buying non-processed bacon and deli meats from our Neighborhood Coop...........There are no preservatives or nitrates in these meats, so I buy small quantities so they don't spoil fast.


    And it would be safe to say that MFP will not work for the majority of people because they too have dieter's mentality..............

    There is NO plan whether it be low cal / low fat, calorie counting, low carb or some combination of plan is going to work unless the person is going to commit to eating the same way they did to lose the weight for the rest of their life.................

    I agree completely. But Atkins (and clean eating) are difficult for many people for many reasons. I do very well counting calories and eating a balanced diet. But I could not handle going completely clean (for a few reasons really). Also isn't Atkins and clean eating done in CONJUNCTION with counting calories? I mean... you still do that right? track your calorie intake on MFP? I think so... anyway the counting part is what I advocate, where you get those calories from, well that different for everyone- some eat clean, some don't, some are vegetarian, some are vegan. But calorie counting, that is my key point :flowerforyou:


    Yeah, I think that Atkins was a pre-clean eating thing anyway. It received bad press and coverage but honestly, it's healthy. Don't like red meat? Don't eat it. It's not like you have to.

    You aren't really into counting calories on Atkins, and once you start eating clean, you can pretty much listen to your body cues and know if you need to eat or not. I mean, not to say you can gorge yourself on tons of food just because it's clean, but honestly, that would be hard to do. There's only so much meat, veggies, and fresh fruit, etc that you can eat before you're full.

    :smile:

    On the low carb sites I belong to, some people count calories, others don't................

    For me, I log my food I eat for my own accountability purposes.

    Mostly, at home I keep a food diary and then plug it in online each morning for the previous day. I use a food scale (I even carry one with me for eating out) and weigh all food that goes in my mouth.

    Me being diabetic, I keep a strict count of my carb levels and only have starchy type foods a couple of days a week or it still triggers sweet cravings in me. Usually an apple will cure that, but when TOM comes around, it gets vicious............

    I don't like 85% dark chocolate, it is too bitter and I am not that much of a chocolate person.......
  • kym_lewis08
    kym_lewis08 Posts: 393
    Personal Demon #2: Chocolate :ohwell:
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member
    Personal Demon #2: Chocolate :ohwell:

    My personal demon is I tend to binge.......................I was told by my Dr that Atkins would stop the binging because of the veggies, fruits, meats, etc.............

    That is not the case for me. I think my brain and stomach receptors telling me when I am full is broken.
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member

    but lets be fair, in the long run Atkins doesn't work for most people (not everyone) simply because it IS viewed as a diet. It is a different way of eating, very different, and most people can not or will not commit to that in the long term. It can produce fast results, but maintaining is very difficult as most people go back to another way of eating. If, like you, people are willing to make the permanent changes in their diets that atkins recommends then yes it can be successful. Also, just throwing this out there, I have read people talking about their diet plan (referring to it as atkins) and COMPLETELY not following the actual Atkins plan. Atkins isn't about completely eliminating all carbs, and it does not advocate the consumption of immense quantities of bacon :laugh:

    I have been doing a lot of reading on this site and those that are into "clean" eating...........are basically doing Atkins in a nutshell.........Just not doing it in a structured way.........



    I probably eat far more veggies in a days time than most people on this board eat in a week.

    Today, I have had spinach, lettuce, radishes, cucumber, tomato, green onion, avocado, carrots, red cabbage, mushrooms, celery, broccoli and cauliflower.................

    That is just today and not counting what I am gonig to have for dinner this evening.

    I have started buying non-processed bacon and deli meats from our Neighborhood Coop...........There are no preservatives or nitrates in these meats, so I buy small quantities so they don't spoil fast.


    And it would be safe to say that MFP will not work for the majority of people because they too have dieter's mentality..............

    There is NO plan whether it be low cal / low fat, calorie counting, low carb or some combination of plan is going to work unless the person is going to commit to eating the same way they did to lose the weight for the rest of their life.................

    I agree completely. But Atkins (and clean eating) are difficult for many people for many reasons. I do very well counting calories and eating a balanced diet. But I could not handle going completely clean (for a few reasons really). Also isn't Atkins and clean eating done in CONJUNCTION with counting calories? I mean... you still do that right? track your calorie intake on MFP? I think so... anyway the counting part is what I advocate, where you get those calories from, well that different for everyone- some eat clean, some don't, some are vegetarian, some are vegan. But calorie counting, that is my key point :flowerforyou:


    Yeah, I think that Atkins was a pre-clean eating thing anyway. It received bad press and coverage but honestly, it's healthy. Don't like red meat? Don't eat it. It's not like you have to.

    You aren't really into counting calories on Atkins, and once you start eating clean, you can pretty much listen to your body cues and know if you need to eat or not. I mean, not to say you can gorge yourself on tons of food just because it's clean, but honestly, that would be hard to do. There's only so much meat, veggies, and fresh fruit, etc that you can eat before you're full.

    :smile:

    On the low carb sites I belong to, some people count calories, others don't................

    For me, I log my food I eat for my own accountability purposes.

    Mostly, at home I keep a food diary and then plug it in online each morning for the previous day. I use a food scale (I even carry one with me for eating out) and weigh all food that goes in my mouth.

    Me being diabetic, I keep a strict count of my carb levels and only have starchy type foods a couple of days a week or it still triggers sweet cravings in me. Usually an apple will cure that, but when TOM comes around, it gets vicious............

    I don't like 85% dark chocolate, it is too bitter and I am not that much of a chocolate person.......
    I enjoy reading your posts... sounds like you have really researched what's worked for you and that is so important. I think some stay in a diet mentality even after losing weight thinking...it's over, I'm free.. But it is a life long commitment to eat healthy and give up trigger items. Some things are OK in moderation but if it's something that is ALWAYS a trigger food and leads to a binge for me I find it simply doesn't need to even be a part of my life anymore. That's me though...we all have different thoughts and different things work for each of us.

    I wish you all the best whatever route works for you:heart::drinker:
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